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I still use one.

I was just wondering what a case or carton was and how much would be saved with a better wheel. I see a carton is a 10 pack from HF. How much would a guy save in a year if they cost 3x as much snd last 2x as long?

I dont mind splits terrible, I am rigged to do it and most sucks is the oil handling and drips. I would like to do the same model twice in reasonable time. I am part time and not dealer so every job is a new experience. We took a couple hrs and adapted/built brackets for rolling it and spent...

Its so tight, I made a tool, wasnt without sone effort and could improve it on the outside chance I got to do one again. Even getting it in place was a challenge, took couple of us a few minutes of fiddling turning and timing a little and all of a sudden falls together

I was just curious how you were using so many as to buy in bulk? I run a welding shop so to speak, I bet I use a dozen a year anymore.

I did a clutch on a couple, dont think we drained all the fluid, some of them are tapered and dont even have a seal.

Drive clutch was blown right out of it. I had to adjust the fingers on the new about all the way, thyey added some bend tabs on replacement top secure them and the tyhickness puts it right to the limit, the adjustment is now all the other way on the linkage. I am now to the front mfwd...

How many men work work in the shop?

The spring is really strong , how do I hoist the driveshaft back up in it? It seems like a stif effort going to be required to compress the spring that far while holding it up for installation.

Why would a guy do that when he can stick it on with 7018,,, NOT 6010 or 11 for higher ,, quite hi in this case carbon steels.

I scored an IT manual but havnt looked at it yet. The linkage is tight, brought it to the shop. I did look at a drawing a flash but see lotso parts. Thing will barely move in low gears and not at all in higher ones. I cant be the first guy to ever work on one of these, anyone want to give...

I was hoping that was the case but havnt got back to it, we tried to locktite the nut and hoping I get a shot to look at it today. Spent the day with a 2014 Ford Flex and drive problem, way too much fun.

Starts, runs, when the throttle is pushed forward it comes right back. I tried fiddling with the nut but its too tight or too loose, maybe a broken washer in the assembly? I kind of figure this isnt the first one.

The main reason they doi not oil, first it allows a lot of creep on alum wheels, drives them too tight, second trying to train a whole country of chimps working on cars to do it the same right way is a problem. Torque isnt really accurate and being dry actually makes it worse, threads stick and...

Doesnt say ALL, it lists the musts and the exemtions. Probably worth noting some of this does not apply to other recepts which must match all 3 parts. But,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, what the style of recept does 2 things, 1 it says it has X wire in it and also just as or more importantly is that it is a...

Its not a whole bunch of code its the word ALL. The code is only to show that there are allowances that disprove the word all which is explained in the terms and definitions of the code. When a guy says ALL it does we have to assume he is not aware and his education on this matter is incomplete.

My argument comes with the statement that usually includes ALL,,, such as ALL 10 must etc,,, it comes from the statement ALL the breaker does is. I happened to read Art 90.7 maybe , dont recall exact but all this is like a web anyway but they do generalize some about the design, the nature...

I agree, convenience is the only savings. I had a hole eroding in this one about the size of pencil eraser. Only hole in it. Steamer it out, cut a hole in to look, bottom as good as new, very surprised for a 50 yr old tank,,, new except for 1 spot.

Wasnt advocating, was simply saying it may be allo9wed.

What makes this somewhat a farce is a guy comes along and the same crew cheerfully explains how to cobble a 259 Dialarc t5o a dryer circuit, it gets an atta boy or my7 favorite, guy buys a home built parts washer, doesnt know 220 from 210 and someone, suposedly with a paper in his pocker...

The whole point of this is,,,, not telling anyone to wire 10 cable to a 60 but that it might not be as dangerous as it might appear at first glance as long as its not overloaded to start with. Someone make a statement like that and it brings all the "cant put a breaker bigger than a 30 on a 10...

I have a question. Art 210.21 B 1 exception 2,,, what exactly does this mean?

Ya, gues we missed that the fisrt couple times I mention that.

We might want to read it again,,, it does have to follow the mfg instructions when they list them, mfgs like welders go to great length to make the new machines code compliant. Its what the dvi is all about.

I have couple union buds,,, they are the best, they are top masters for the outfits they work for and hold every paper they print for it. The one took state test,,,, said he scored higher than anyone had ever taken it. I asked a while back, I thought I might have to get a job and wanted a...

Lots more places are adopting NEC and going to state inspections. They are getting rid of many county licences. For long time when they adm in their own could get a lic rather simply. In this state the industrial doesnt count for much unless it was on a resume to another plant etc. There was...

Kind of makes my point. They are actually required to inspect new installs but may be able to do it wholesale so to speak. If there is a master on staff is sposed to have a yearly walk thru and overlook the installations. The process is in front of the code book.

Absolutely... hence the 12 allowed to the welder. Hobart has easy manuals, download stickmates.

That is a circuit thermally protected by the breaker as I mention earlier,,, general use circuit with multiple outlets. Its wired differently than AC circuit, motor or welder circuits.

No one said everything could be wired to a number 10,,,, but ever notice when this comes up, very little fact, all,,, I taught Edison everything he knows and to tell the truth a lot of "industrial " electricians not all that impressive with code knowledge and never really had to deal with...

I been doinjg this a while too,,, I dont believe I ever hear of a case of welder wiring burning the place down,,,, lots of other stuff but not that. I be glad to read the code sectioin says you got to do anything in case some dumb azz wires a hot tub to the welder outlet.

A 10 cable is not rated for use on 60 but legal for a welder wire at 50. I would be glad to read the code where it specs the difference between industrial and residential. These welder circuits are code legal and been installed by masters for decades.

Can put 6 spaces main lug panels to the meter base.

They put additional fuses in Xmas tree lights now with tiny wires, they used to draw more but also had larger wires for fault, there was no fuse on them. In the case of the AC unit as was mentioned by others must read the tag and use the breaker on the label and ideally the correct wire size...

In a common general circuit with multiple outlets it protects the wire for thermal as well as short circuit which is its main/second function. Not that it wouldnt trip thermal in other types of circuits but for this type of discussion its not really part of the design criteria and irrelevant...

The breaker is there for short circuit protection. Its also an off/on switch. The reason is is larger on these types of circuits is that is is sized so it DOESNT trip. The thermal protection in this circuit (different than general circuits with multiple outlets) is provided by the calculated...

I would be glad to.

Lots of comments and only a couple actually know wtf they are doing. Depending on the connected equipment a 10/60 may be legal, itys listed on the unit. Depending on wiring methods 10 is generally the max legal limit on a 60/ Many common home sizes are powered by 12/40,,, very common. This...

Had a woman ask,,, would her son be able to tell whats with her heater. He was out of town for a day or 2 and was concerned about calling the local knob. Son is lic master spark unlimited, think he has taken every test they have.

I am using 1 I put in 1980, half a dozen elements since. Another 2 gas from the early 90s.

I use 2, pretty in pink for bearings and u joints and sticky black bear shate for the bush and pins. We use the Travelers and have done a little comparing and the bear shate stays in a lot longer than the cheap common does. Doesnt seem to plug up.

Then my own use was high, some a 1000 hrs all this was a bigger problem than 150 with 1/2 being utility. Got a bud uses skids in a feed lot, has rotating Mexicans driving them. New ones have engine monitors and even no grease type joints. Starters last forever, then never got to work except...

I dont know about low sulpher, new engines are designed for it, spose some lube couldnt hurt. I am not sure how much difference the fuel (maybe someone here really knows) if its trumatic to old Roosa Masters, most I see stopped are outright broke as well as worn, even fix the worn and they work...

A little shot of bio couldnt hurt, little isoprop too in the fall before cold weather. I manage a small fleet that worked in cold weather, they worked all year but winter was really where its at. The trucks were stored warm which really helped but when it was brutal every once in a while a...

I have used none for decades.

None.

With 023 wire the machine doesnt know if its plugged in to 120 or 240

Cant hurt to drain anything you can if it looks contaminated.

The heavy duty is better especially in hi wear and doesnt seem to get the clogged fitting syndrome. I greased one the other day that had been down some hard road, simply looking at it you would haver said its been neglected but on first pump or 2 nice older grease being pusher out. Old general...

They says with 0.023” wire and 110v input the Miller 211 has good thin metal capability. The 110v has a better arc over the 220v input for thin materials. I’ve never tried it yet. The wire doesnt know what voltage the machine is running on. Its the adjustment but,,, the 023 is certainly easier...

I agree dino is good, I do use a synthetic in a 4020 due to I dont have to temp change and easier winter starts and its got a turbo, it loves it and I sampled. Here is my take,,,, if its decent and tight I would change the oil with Wix filter and forget about it except to check it. The...

Where from?

I built about 10 of these for trucks, all suction. Why do mine work when others do not? These are positive displacement pumps.

Karcher is one of the leaders in this equipment. Got a bud just bought a new one, 9 grand, says it works good and is thrifty on heating fuel. I have an Alkota and a Hotsy in a truck. he hot was a salvage from old parts. Its a sucker.

If you have it behind it inch will deliver easy to a dwelling at 200 ft.

We ran out and someone came home with half a dozen tubes of common grease. I put it in some stuff we regular regrease. I would say you could notice the difference between it and modern moly grease as to how far ir went thru grime before regrease and as someone else mentioned, never a plugged...

I prolly would have found a piece of cylinder rod and cut it in the saw and welder onner.

Some of these use part of a day a year, some old, dont want to work around it all in storage.

Made a new cover for the fert deal the other day, one piece.

I dont use it or Stabil either, just makers more of a gooey mess.

Above, pic 1, regulated line from the one in pic 3 with a disconnect for that clip in pic 2. You can see additional reg goes to that reel for paint guns.

You dont need the reg for air tools at that pressure. Yes, you can put the reg any where you want and in some cases it may work better.

A 175 comp is designed that way. Its part of system design and good reason for it. Mine is used every day and been on since 1972. Like you said, you have big pipe and maintain 135, this is about the low side of a hi pressure system. I have 2 comps also, really use 1, rarely use the...

Maintaining 135 constant is what really gives your tools the power, the better fittings help a little and help on big tools.

If I was going to do this again in this building would do the manifold and the finish after adapters with steel fittings and home run a couple long ones with 3/4 flex air line. Its just so time consuming up in the ceiling.

You are not short of air, several sizes bigger than the tools require. But in this type of setup the pipe should tilt the other way instead of back. A bead of water is not going to run back thhru long runs, we would like to see it carried away towards a drop. You probably have so good...

Another thing, we seem to worry about coupler performance and then install 2 or 3 in series. Number 1 easiest way to improve air is to reduce amount of fittings and shorten hose, that could include increase hose size also. A proper air system has 1 quick in it,,, at the tool, from a reel or...

A loop is good in a plant with continuous air use, also used to provide better flow but for most here with sufficient pipe, anything 1/2 and larger not really needed and has some potential for trapped water if not designed correctly and not using air beyond etc. Not every idea we see in...

A heavy 1/2 impact is close to 25 cfm. At 6.5 a fitting wouldnt matter. 1/2 hose does help, there is north of 2/3# loss per foot on 3/8 at the 25 rate. A better fitting helps a little.

Hobart had battery wire but battery stick is wayyyyy toooo cool.

The shop is plumbed in, outside controls, have one in an insulated truck body too.

You are on the right track. The 190 is VERY good and get a roll of 030 solid and biggest bottle of C25 you can. Lets you turn it down for lighter work and the 030 gives it a little punch on heavier stuff. A Tbolt in good condition sells in the 300 range depending on location.

The removal takes too long. I can sharp them in 15 mins including getting a coffee.

I raise, use jack stands, cardboard and slide under adding a c clamp so I can hold the rotation with my knee. Not jacked super high, there is a right spot where you can really put leverage on the grinder.

I wipe it with mineral spirits then use glass cleaner.

I wanna be there when they say get this in the back room, i can hear the laughing from here.

Call the dealer and see if they will send someone to watch u change oil.

Got to wonder why we just dont visit some of these threads to solve all the worlds problems with so many geniuses in one spot,,, know more about this type of thing than most other people do.

Like all the GC are genius and do such a great job. I ruff the wire in one a while back where the owner did and was as good as any I have ever seen. He did all but a little water and a little wire. Seen great houses built by contractors, seen some real crap too.

You will use it for a lot of stuff, spill anything, dirt, its all thru the holes and to tell the truth all that stuff looks better than it works, really, makes for nice pictures but I like commom clamps, like being able to wipe it up.

Skip the holes. tack your pilots back shut.

This is probably pretty accurate self portrait. I am a career welder and thats the way I do most of it.

Saw a pallet full on sale in a HD or Lowes a while back. I had just bought some or would have scored a couple jugs.

The delvac is fine too but,,, I simply aint gonna change it for a while. We test it in old engine at 500 hrs and still 50% good with the add oil we need to use, new tight engines wouldnt even break it in at 500 hrs.

Uses a lot of power. Steady.

I agree with you 100%. I can do without a tig. Anyone tells a first time tractor hobby guy to get anything but a 210 class mig is doing him a disservice. There is a place for the 140,,, my neighbor just took his back,,, ha but while I can do without tig my deal is 030 solid and a little...

Truth is most theior engines would still run if they never changed oil.

Everyone is special tthese days, their tractors are different than other peoples, they use them harder, do more. Its a little liker the electric receptical, wonder how one guy can use 500 of the 49 cent ones and a part timer has all kinds of problems, his electricity is tougher, he uses more...

Burning some rods.

69 maybe,,, power shift.

I am not dating girls with their own hay equipment.

Now that is funny.

I worked on one the other day had the lever, very nice.

Thank you for the link. I thought I posted that the other day and must not have done it correctly. My local Napa is long gone and was kind of hoping to find some on a shelf at a farm store. I forgot the forum had a hyd section. But those are exactly what I was looking for.

I got no problem with that price. They make so many fitting types that I am not familiar with all the correct terms to identify the proper plugs and couplers.

I wouldnt have a machine to grease because I would have called the scrap yard long before that.

Dont worry about the plug or the washer either if its not leaking.

I have my 70s connectors and want to make a set of adapters for the newer style. Didnt I see a ready made set for this at the farm store?

FWIW. just had a log splitter in, would start warm but out in the cold not. Turns out it had 20-50 Harley oil in it. Guy tried 200 pulls on it. Changed to 5-30 and on second pull fired right up.

I know all the instruments on the plane should work correctly but it dont matter because i know where i am going despite the fact i dont know the difference beteeen av gas and jet fuel. We really dont need legal tires on the landing gear cause i cant afford them.

You cant afford it is no excuse for this cobble job and I am weary of looking for the 1 or 2 people on this thread even call this system by the right voltage.

The rate and service most of these run not much of this makes a difference except for weight. 15W is not good for cold starts and the rest doesnt mean a pinch of shate, Shel, Mobil doesnt matter. Main thing is coolant contamination, if it is not leaking most of these units would run till the...

Mineral spirits. We do it all the time, use it on outer glass also before using glass cleaner.

Ya, how much for the scale?

Look at sending unit on ports on side of tank, might not leak below half full.

If I was as rich as Jay would not be greasing a machine.

Post back in 10 years and tell how it works.

Turn oxy up to 40 for speed. The plasma took a dump but it reminds me I dont do it much anymore. I cut some the other day kept me holding my breath.

Wonder how much this brain fart would generate?

quit doing that.

20-25# oxy unless cutting over 1/2. The idea is to burn it not bloiw it away. A good tip reduces oxy use as it doesnt have the turbulence of an old eroded one. 5 to 7# acety with number 1 or 2 Victor and even bit less with smaller ones but not as critical as it is adjusted with the knob.

They want the supply large to cover it but LP is 270 cf per gallon. This little genset does not use nearly 4 gallons an hour. I am running 350 chevy at 1/2 or 3/4 that runs that. To a home, a 3/8 copper tubing supplies 200K btu between stage 1 and 2 66 ft.

I noticed it in Kroil cans about 10 years ago, jacked up the price and cheapened the can.

Todays low sulpher is no worse for crap growing in it than it ever was. Remember when carb rebuilding was routine. Not including chain saws I havnt bought a small engine part or even carb part for decades, last thing I can remember was needle and seat. If you let it sit long enough its not...

Yes I paint my own, I have a paint shop so to speak and 16x40 booth. Just painted a 10x25 machine couple 3 weeks ago.

I need a couple new ones too.

It was just ironic they listed every phase of the construction and said, other than that we did it all ourselves.

They said they built their own house except for that work,,, seems all they really did was hang a couple curtains.

Yes, all general contrators are highly organized and poster children for effeciency.

I saw a post the other day somewhat similar, guy said,, we built our own house the only things we hired out was the excavating, foundation, framing, insulation, the roof, the hvac, the wire and the pipe. Oh, and the drywall,,, other than that we did it all ourselves. Wonder when hanging some...

2000 hrs on a 63 dozer,,, no thanks.

How much is the Thor? I have the pressure where it was set at factory, this is part of 2 stage design. Using the tanks to deliver the volume. I can make 28 but keep it live from a comp makes 12, 3 hp, what they call a mechanics compressor. Big tank, off at 175, on at 130. The system will...

My 727 or 747, just up and stopped hitting yesterday. I was in the middle of something and borrowed my buds HF model. Earthquake something. I guess they have one better but this thing really hits. Only thing i dont loke is it has adjustment on reverse where the CP is full more power reverse...

If i am gonna build it myself what is it i need the subs for again?

On this planet?

We have a Stihl, its ok but the MIL bought a Masterforce 80 and its a beast. I am going to be looking to get away from brand name and find the best cheap generic. I am finding i like some of ghat better and cheaper is a bonus.

Why would i need subs? Ha

I was wonderi g if the Stihl was better than the loggers choice? I had a bud said they ran them side by side and big difference in wear.

How much difference is there in the quality of bar oil?

I can do it any way but prefer mig. I had to fish for this one.

I wish i would have tossed them all in a coffee can over the years.

We have the same one and did the same add. I got a bunch of brackets o. The back, store rigging as some counter weight. Proba hundred more # since.

Cherrypicker too, heavy duty.

There is a station built to/around 1 end.

This mine. 19 ft.

Built this for a bud.

I would just as soon have rear facing especially if doing any back and forth. A push back blade works well that way too.

A lot of people like to think they personally know the worlds greatest welder but the best are these young guys like him. 2 1/2 years is just right to get a groove on. There were a bunch of whiz types at the nuke, some barely shave but they couldnt do much else. As you said, some guys get good...

Easy to stay employed. Being an A+ welder when you are a sprout moves a guy up the food chain fast.

This all doesnt mean a pinch of shate, put some wet stuff in it. Common car oil is fine and every time it moves up a class they 2x the friction modifiers. I dont think zinc means squat.

Most of the worlds steel is hot roll. A little cold.

Washed up before repair.

Its kind of routine.

Bought and sold is an understatement.

I bought 6 qt pourer thingy with spout for hyd oil. We dont use so much as back in the day and it works well enough and always handy. I do have other stuff but simple is good.

I just did a service and it had some missing and clogs. I block it up a little so it doesnt fall all apart and tive the pin half way out, a bit more and even remove and totally coat them, fix the hole and shove it back together. Once you do it will find not such a problem. I am sure the...

On this kind of joint the rod doesnt have much to do with penetration, not really. Yes, the 10 and 11 dig a little but mauinly they freeze fast to allow for control in a joint properly designed to allow for penetration. The arc is more aggressive, it does cut thru crud a little easier but...

While new tools should be great i was telling a cousin about 1 we were using. First thing he starts off telling me about his 60v and i got to stop. It should be good for 400$ but what is really impressive in 2021 is the 50$ PC we bought a couple yrs ago with 2 batteries. Work most of a day on...

Dont panic,,, take it easy. It probably didnt get that far in a day or 2. But it aint gonna fix itself.

I am going to refer to this thread when I get it for spinning off,,,, hahaha

I hadnt heard it explained that way. I know carbon from grease can be a concern.

Air not entering from leaks unless its on the suction side.

I would like to learn more about hydrogen in oil and grease.

Burn the paint off with a torch, this will warm it a little, weld it on and I like the bridge idea for a diy guy, a piece of bolt across it.

If you would have told me in 1992 I could work half a day with a 50$ drill on one battery I would have said bullshit. Run hundreds of screws yesterday with 1.

I been at this a while and taking apart before buying is so much easier and cheaper when you find the rest id fine and you need new piece.

Take it apart first. I did one for a neighbor a while back, they bought every part ahead which caused one to use the crap reman pressure plate they got from a dealer kit. If its nice simply slip a new disk in it.

Since its a 1977 tractor and getting low hours you would never need to change it again with modern oil.

They had a little work done which was ok but they missed some and they dont paint or finish well. We clean and grind the welding from the original build, this was a copy sand it all up and spray real shiny like. Gets a full pen weld across the new section of skid pan.

I been on my feet a month and was rainging. I hsve other work to do but needed to absolutely hsve a sgort day standing up. I finally turned the lights up to knock s little piece off this before it turned in to a junk collector. 2nd or third of these, i wanna get it in the paint booth.

We use modern oil in old engines. This oil is several times better than when they made the tractor. We pulled some samples after long cycles. Who would have thunk back in the day could run 7-800 even thousand hours and oil still good but,,, there is make up oil so it is a factor.

I dont know a thing about Mark, we aint pals but I bout bet he earned every penny in this deal. I respect the work. If he can put the kids thru college doing this great, he aint getting it all in one deal or a couple customers thats about certain. I think you could buy 1 of Everything he has...

I only have my own view, some analitical, mostly speculative and I would have been wrong if you asked 30 yrs ago. The products are now so generic a lot of brand loyalty is fading and the stuff and its "people" are a commodity. I would be interested to know how Everlast has been competing with...

So a guy tries to sell me a tractor says,,, I t will resale better in 10 years, I say,,, show me... He fumbles and the real math is I get 5 more large in 10 if I spend 10 more today. What does it have to do With Everlast? Anybody with a pinch of **** can afford one of these fine machines...

New machine good. Cheaper and better than it ever was. Not too long ago Mark would have been badmouthed as a shitty importer and peddler of junk and try to make the argument that his brand name machine was a bargain in comparison. I worked out but for myself a long time too where (I was a...

Finding parts for the more common ones isnt much of a problem but some of the spec built models it is and they are hard to identify. Some of the 2 stage are worth fixing but replacement has got much cheaper and a guy doesnt have to fuss with finding little parts.

This is about this statement and not about the guy that wrote it. These circuits are not designed and not intended to plug anything in them. We see this when the subject of adapters come up. I dont believe there is a legal adapter from 6-50 to anything else. There is one from 14-50 to 6-50 but...

I wonder why the code doesnt require a sign or why they think this is not a problem? Its been this way 75 years and not even a concern till the internet came along. When they invented these welders it was leagal,,, masters installed these by the millions with 10 cable to 50A range side of...

Despite the chances being less than hit by lightening its repeated constantly and with a cheering section.

This doesnt surprise me,,, kind of the point with this thread. It was obvious before I even add my 5 cents. Its not unique to you. Here's what I do know: wiring a circuit per code will a) keep things safe, and b) This is true but how would one know what code is? Is it from,,,, I did it...

When its plugged in it is part of the circuit. Some of the machines even list the cord limits. As for all this. I am not surprised some really dont care to learn,,, they already jknow more about this than other people and the people that designed and wrote it. It doesnt get much...

I had one do the exact same thing recently but I caught it before it went to relief. It was a little nylon washer that had split.

Its the insistance that its unsafe if its not wired with a 6 which is faulty. Like i said, , but you dont read that part,,, nothing wrong with it but a guy doesnt have to and there is a between also. I dont use the minimum but that was missed too. Little like politics where we only read the...

I see a post here worried about parts,,,, what if my 300$ machine needs a part in 10 years. So,,, it makes more sense to buy a 2K machine in today in case it needs a 300$ part later. Something missing in school math.

We were changing in older engines a lot for season, some for hours but after the advent of new oil and pulling some samples I never shut anything down for an oil change and in our 4020 was changing 2 or 3x a year,,, our use has dropped but now its every 3 years. It needs make up oil so that is...

These would be on my short list if I had to start again. While I do have a 300 synchro I have had for long time and was near free when I got it there aint no way I would drag one home today. Goes double if I had to pay much or anything for it. I have forklift and 400A service,, its not really...

My Bud bought one of the models, maybe a 200, never saw it but he came over one day pissing about not finding a part,,, and was trying to save the 300 for one he did find. I kind of had to stop him and said,,,, you rode the **** out of it for 5 years,,, wayyyyyyy above a hobby shop ever could...

Despite what some may think this is not critical of Everlast. I been around long enough to see the growth and to tell the truth its really revolutionary in the sense they can deliver it at such a low retail cost. I dont know much about the models as they really dont interest me much except for...

I understand this. Its kind of confusing to others and not so diy friendly. The use of the mvp adapter does allow smaller conductors on a 50 in the cord. Until that they had to size the cord for shorts at 50A and still do with 240 models. While its true in some sense the cord does not...

Actually is is a standard code. If does differ from general wiring. Seems I read a manual once listed a 13 gauge wire. But,,, they do come with 50 end? I assume the cord is a 12 or better unless its dvi.

A high numberof issues being 2 current carrying conductors undet 1 screw.

I like to pick on a thread for a day that really deserves it and this is one. I was at a convention, a bud was lecturng fire science and forensics and knew a couple investigators. I ask about some of this. Mainly about compressors and welders as these most common in home garages. They said...

I M talking to people interested in learning a little about how circuits are designed. I wonder why it takes years of study if it was as simple as some make it sound? Why dont we hook all the "220" stuff to 100A and call it a day? As for sharing a 240 with other stuff, i simply dont do it. I...

I really dont care what you do on your property.

Its obvious lots of people here know more than most do despite no real education in the matter other than someone told me.

I got to love the statement, more than one way,, the exact point i am making. This gang rhinks there is only one way. Another thing, because its a code minimum doesnt mean its inadequate.

I cant recall ever buying a piece not a welder csne with 6 50. Its not motor rated above 3 hp, its not really a general recept.

There is nothing else to plug in to this that is not a cobble job.

This is faulty logic.

Aint sposed to be plugging lots of other stuff in to welder circuits, not designed for that, they are not multi voltage and the 6 50 is rated to 3 hp, stuff lower than that would work provided the breaker was suzed for the appliance.

I sm not saying to do it that way. I am saying you can and its safe and leagal as determined by the whole industry and that all the pet theories. I did it my way type self reason is full of dhit. This logic is not from experts but diy types. Hank J used to be on Miller sight had o good take...

Ine of the guys here had it reasoned out that it wasnt safe to use a 10 on a 50 which is fine and leagal but was ok, , mainly cause he did it,, to put all his welders on 80A breakers on 6 50 so all his welders work. Not a leagal corcuit in so many ways but the teasoning was that it wouldnt...

Yes, i see the current, thus leaves it up to the installer to extrapalate the wire size? But if it comes 6 50 then it is allowed on 50A circuits

The 12 on a 30 is a size bigger than the nacine requires at 65 ft, it comes with s 14 cord and will not overheat a 12 wire no matter ehich breaker is on it.

Prevents yhrm from using generals on institutional for the most part Even modern 120v welders come 15 end, easy to turn one up past 20A, they come 14 cord.

Used to prevent the cleaing staff from plugging in to the other circuits However ,, ask the diy guy why they use that end and will gett a different answer

There are srveral aspects to pvrrvurrent on the simple 15A 120 dont occur to most people. Might be hardrr to explain to someone knows something about it. Its worth yhe study of a 15 and 20 plug and recrpt Breaker, supply wire is identical to 20A with 15 outlets. Change the end on a 20 to 15...