Stihl vs Husqvarna

[JeepHead]

I'm not following your argument. You correlated new saws to new tractors with a purchasing reluctance. Then you bagged on new tractors with emissions and computers.

It's okay if you can't follow along. I didn't bag on anything. I shared my thoughts based on information I have gained. And I remarked how I find it interesting when guys bash a computer controlled saw, that may cost a few hundred bucks, but then spend thousands on a computer controlled tractor.

Then you came back and praised new saws for them being reliable for you, despite you saying computers decrease life span.

Show me where I said computers decrease life span.

I think the context of the conversation was, despiste new saw being initially good, will they still be usable in 50 years? Will there even be parts around for these saws then?

I have this exact same thought about emission tractors, but I would rather have this issue with a $1200 saw than a $60K tractor...

I have bought up so many pre emission saws that are just simple to use. Combine that with can gas, that is not really gas but naptha, they should last another 50 years with very minimal upkeep. Maybe a new carb kit every 25 years.

I like my old saws but I like my new computer controlled saws even better. They're cheap enough that I honestly don't care if they last 30 years. I will probably buy newly released models every 3-4 year anyways.

 

[JeepHead]

365 and 372XP are still non-computerized as well, unless something changed real recently

all 3 series are non auto tune.

 

[Snobdds]

It is also still to be determined if these tractors will even be operating 30-40 years down the road like many of the older mechanical tractors are today.

Show me where I said computers decrease life span.

Sure...

 

[xyz123]

365 and 372XP are still non-computerized as well, unless something changed real recently

No longer made for US market and last we had were the NE x-torq ones. Only old stock left.

I liked the OE 372 better and order mine in from a overseas dealer in my group. Also can still get new 288's

NE x-torq v/s OE

 

[JeepHead]

Sure...

It is also still to be determined if these tractors will even be operating 30-40 years down the road like many of the older mechanical tractors are today.

Show me where I said computers decrease life span.

Exactly, I never said what you accused me of.

 

[DarkBlack]

No longer made for US market and last we had were the NE x-torq ones. Only old stock left.

I liked the OE 372 better and order mine in from a overseas dealer in my group. Also can still get new 288's

NE x-torq v/s OE

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Ok. Dealer up the road has a 372XP for sale. Must be leftover.
My pre-Xtorq 372XP is in great condition, and still cranks chips like new. Combined with so much aftermarket support, I see it lasting me a lifetime

 

[Snobdds]

Exactly, I never said what you accused me of.

English is your first language, correct?

 

[JeepHead]

English is your first language, correct?

It is, but it's apparently not yours.

 

[Snobdds]

It is, but it's apparently not yours.

Just own it. We all saw what you said.

 

[Snobdds]

Just own it. We all saw what you said.

Also, what you said I don't disagree with. Anything with a computer is questionable whether it will be around in 40-50 years.

 

[JeepHead]

Just own it. We all saw what you said.

Dude, you're relentless. I am not going to admit to saying something that was not said. You really seem to be one of those people who needs to be right, even when you're clearly wrong.

 

[walhondingMF]

I think one of the upsides to my 562 is the autotune. I can mess with a carb and make something "run," but run right, I cannot. The autotune is really nice for a guy like me.
I personally like "older stuff," because its just simpler and easier/cheaper to fix. I don't think I want a truck newer then my 2015 chevy because I can still do a lot of the basic work on it. I own a 2012 tractor where I would consider the only newer tech to be hydraulic drive. I think I can fix a lot of that machine. I got rid of my 2006 polaris because the electronic AWD was a pain to deal with. So I bought a full time 4x4 honda.
I do like the tech though in a place where I can't do it myself. Im not a carb tuner so the newer tech is worth it to me.
Tech is good in some places and bad in others.

 

[JeepHead]

Also, what you said I don't disagree with. Anything with a computer is questionable whether it will be around in 40-50 years.

I have worked on computers, as a technician, for 29 years. I don't think bad things about computers whatsoever. Some have even continuously run with never being shut down or failing in over 40years. My concern with modern tractors is more so the emission components on them than the computers that operate them. I would be more fearful of having emission issues and the inability of correcting that 40 years down the road because the tuning is no longer available.

 

[xyz123]

Just so you know. There is no MKII 572 out.

This is confirmed by a dealer that even gets their prototypes in to send out for testing.

 

[DarkBlack]

No longer made for US market and last we had were the NE x-torq ones. Only old stock left.

I liked the OE 372 better and order mine in from a overseas dealer in my group. Also can still get new 288's

NE x-torq v/s OE

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Huge difference in piston size. Glad I bought one of the last non-X-torq saws. I was amazed when I went to check the muffler to do a mod in it, and found it hollow right from the factory. I let it be. Sounds like a 2 stroke dirt bike

 

[Hay Dude]

Just so you know. There is no MKII 572 out.

This is confirmed by a dealer that even gets their prototypes in to send out for testing.

OK, well that helps.
I’m not really into brand loyalty and Stihl has gotten a lot of my money, so no problem for me checking out Husq or Echo.
…..but I’d still take a 400

 

[Snobdds]

Dude, you're relentless. I am not going to admit to saying something that was not said. You really seem to be one of those people who needs to be right, even when you're clearly wrong.

I know.

My mom always said I should be a lawyer because I would never lose a case. I just always told her there was no money in being a lawyer.

 

[WinterDeere]

I know.

My mom always said I should be a lawyer because I would never lose a case. I just always told her there was no money in being a lawyer.

lol... that was pretty good.

Can we get back to the scheduled program, now?

 

[grsthegreat]

Me, too.
Slow pay or high maintenance = “I’m real busy”

Ive done the same with my generator service business. Too busy and too many good customers to put up with jerks.

 

[Eagle1]

I'm a Husky guy but ran across this just now, is that a real thing? Summer - Winter mode on a Stihl?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1870284905361621119