SSQ Bucket falls off

[GeneD14]

I was looking through some old pictures from 2004 and found one of the solution using flat washers.
It's not very high tech, but it work for years and never lost the bucket again.

 

[GeneD14]

If I remember right: 9 flat washers was the magic number to provide enough pressure.

 

[Professor Marvel]

whenever i put a front implement on i lift it up and shake it front and back with the stick to help it settle in before i push down the levers. don't know if it helps or not i just have always done it. never had issues and so maybe it helps.

 

[Atchuuu]

I was looking through some old pictures from 2004 and found one of the solution using flat washers.
It's not very high tech, but it work for years and never lost the bucket again.

Thank you Gene. I justed checked the bucket and think you are correct There isn't much spring tension and I can reach from one side of the tractor and lock and unlock the pins.

whenever i put a front implement on i lift it up and shake it front and back with the stick to help it settle in before i push down the levers. don't know if it helps or not i just have always done it. never had issues and so maybe it helps.

Yes, I do the same thing. The bucket wont shake loose unless bag dragging. Otherwise it stays on.

 

[Atchuuu]

So a couple people responded that they did not see what I think is wear on the bucket.
My eyes are not what they used to be, however this still looks like a problem to me.
Maybe the main problem, maybe not, but looks like it needs to be addressed.

Am I just seeing things?View attachment 607527

Good eye. Thanks for catching this. Will pay extra attention to this area.

No I see it too. The sun angle and shadow make it hard to see.

I lightened the picture to make the shadow stand out and added a straight line along the edge of the slot:

View attachment 607536

The worn spot shows in the dip on the shadow on the back of the bucket.

The way the slot is worn, the pin should be worn at the edges and not flat all the way across.

But I don't think the slight amount of wear would cause the bucket to come off.

Thanks

 

[CADplans]

. The bucket wont shake loose unless bag dragging. Otherwise it stays on.

I have WAY more problems when my bag is dragging,,, :dance1: :thumbdown:

I have never noticed if my bucket is loose when I have that situation,,,:confused2:

 

[Professor Marvel]

I have WAY more problems when my bag is dragging,,, :dance1: :thumbdown:

I have never noticed if my bucket is loose when I have that situation,,,:confused2:

:drink:

 

[MHarryE]

His SSQA must differ from my L6060. Once the latches are snapped over center, there is no physical way for it to unhook without ripping through metal, which happened to me. Last winter I caught something when backing up with my snow plow. Not sure what it was but I noticed the right side was not in place. I didn’t understand how that could happen until I got a good view and saw the lower wedge pin had broke out the back of the slot into which it locks. Being winter and everything packed in my shops. The quick fix was to mount the blade back in place and drill a hole, bolt the blade in place. I’ll finish fixing it right this summer. However, on my Kubota loader, there is no way the bucket will come off once latched without ripping through, not sliding over, the lower plate.

 

[Atchuuu]

His SSQA must differ from my L6060. Once the latches are snapped over center, there is no physical way for it to unhook without ripping through metal, which happened to me. Last winter I caught something when backing up with my snow plow. Not sure what it was but I noticed the right side was not in place. I didn’t understand how that could happen until I got a good view and saw the lower wedge pin had broke out the back of the slot into which it locks. Being winter and everything packed in my shops. The quick fix was to mount the blade back in place and drill a hole, bolt the blade in place. I’ll finish fixing it right this summer. However, on my Kubota loader, there is no way the bucket will come off once latched without ripping through, not sliding over, the lower plate.

I believe that the general consensus is that the locking pins are sliding up allowing one or both sides of the bucket to detach. This is caused by too little tension on the locking pins via the spring and back dragging (not bag) the bucket. When the bucket comes off both pins are still in the locked position. The metal bracket you ripped through is not bent or damaged as far as I can tell.

Will work on a solution when weather improves.

 

[Atchuuu]

Update - Thought we had solved the issue.Gene had suggested washers and this sounded very promising. However it did not solve the issue and the bucket came off again. Here are some new photos.

 

[Atchuuu]

First photo is the bucket as it is coming off. Second photo shows just how little the pin goes through the tab in this position. The pin generally goes through the tab more. The fourth..... ooops.

Photo below shows the grease line on the pin when the pin is seated correctly.

 

[Xfaxman]

Looks like the connecting tube is twisted: https://www.tractorbynet.com/forums...head-move-need-advice-loader.html#post4414850

 

[ovrszd]

I think your problem is clearly illustrated in your second photo.

A flat plate welded to the bucket latch tab to eliminate vertical "slack" will fix the issue.

 

[DK35vince]

Looks like the tip of your QA pin is barely into the bucket.
Plate that section of the bucket up.

 

[ovrszd]

Looks like the tip of your QA pin is barely into the bucket.
Build that section of the bucket up.

Maybe add a flat plate there?

 

[downsizingnow48]

The gap shown between the back of the bucket and the ssqa plate is a problem that needs to be diagnosed and understood.

If this side has a gap, and the other side is tight, that suggests xfaxman is correct and the connecting tube is twisted.

If both sides show the same gap, that suggests the upper angled part of the ssqa is not fitting correctly into the angled part of the bucket. One or the other could be bent.

Or, you need to juggle the bucket on the ssqa before inserting the pins to make sure the back of the bucket and the ssqa plate are tight on both sides.

Maybe borrow a bucket or other ssqa attachment from a neighbor and see if the problem stays the same or goes away.

 

[DK35vince]

Maybe add a flat plate there?

Didn't see your reply till after I replied.

 

[ovrszd]

Didn't see your reply till after I replied.

No worries. We're thinking alike.

This problem is probably caused by the top bucket bracket and/or the top SSQA bracket being bent.

 

[Atchuuu]

Looks like the connecting tube is twisted: https://www.tractorbynet.com/forums...head-move-need-advice-loader.html#post4414850

View attachment 607984

Thanks for the link. Will check this next time I am at the property.

I think your problem is clearly illustrated in your second photo.

A flat plate welded to the bucket latch tab to eliminate vertical "slack" will fix the issue.

Yes, that does seem to be the problem or part of the problem. Didn't have issues with the bucket falling off originally though so maybe Xfaxman is on to something.

Looks like the tip of your QA pin is barely into the bucket.
Plate that section of the bucket up.

It is only this way when the bucket slides up after back dragging as shown in the photos above. When using the loader for moving dirt the pins are further into the bracket and I don't have any issues.

The gap shown between the back of the bucket and the ssqa plate is a problem that needs to be diagnosed and understood.

If this side has a gap, and the other side is tight, that suggests xfaxman is correct and the connecting tube is twisted.

If both sides show the same gap, that suggests the upper angled part of the ssqa is not fitting correctly into the angled part of the bucket. One or the other could be bent.

Or, you need to juggle the bucket on the ssqa before inserting the pins to make sure the back of the bucket and the ssqa plate are tight on both sides.

Maybe borrow a bucket or other ssqa attachment from a neighbor and see if the problem stays the same or goes away.

Thanks. Will look into it.

 

[searcyfarms]

i think this horse has been beat to death :mur: