SSQ Bucket falls off

[Atchuuu]

Here are a couple of photos. If you see an issue that I missed please let me know.

 

[Atchuuu]

This photo shows a small gap between the quick attach and the bucket. The metal bracket with the slot does not appear bent and it doesn't look like this can be adjusted.

 

[Redlands Okie]

Try adjusting the nut at the top of spring on the pin. Make sure your getting plenty of pressure applied so that the bucket and pin connection points are staying tight.


Or that the springs are not wore out and have plenty of strength to hold the pin down.

 

[searcyfarms]

id be doing some fabricating to fix that thing but thats just how i roll - id be frustrated with 7 times, id make sure it doesnt come off - im thinking you need to add another layer of 3/8 material on tip of the loop that the pin goes down through

 

[Gordon Gould]

This photo shows a small gap between the quick attach and the bucket. The metal bracket with the slot does not appear bent and it doesn't look like this can be adjusted.View attachment 607016

Also on the 3rd picture from the left I can see day light or grass in this case between the face of the pin taper and the bucket. Is there an adjustment to lengthen the throw of the pin ? There is on mine. I can't see very well how much pin engagement you have. But I agree with searcyfarms and would be welding on some pads and reinforcement to tighten it up. The way it is now you can pull the bucket forward because of the pin gap which increases the gap you pointed out and then just lift it up so the top hooks come undone and the bucket falls off.

gg

 

[ovrszd]

Gordon, it doesn't look like his pins engage deeply like yours? Looks like he only has a 1/2" or less of pin holding the bucket. Looks like his pin sleeves are set too far rearward toward tractor. But how could that happen?

I'm really surprised by now that he's not twisted his torsion tube. If one side slips out and the other side hangs on, that will be the end result.....

 

[Leejohn]

There should be a block of steel just above the locking pin when it is locked in. The early buckets did not have them and the pin could raise up and the bucket come loose. My L3130 did not have them, but the L4240 and up has them.

 

[Gordon Gould]

There should be a block of steel just above the locking pin when it is locked in. The early buckets did not have them and the pin could raise up and the bucket come loose. My L3130 did not have them, but the L4240 and up has them.

You are right Leejohn.!!!!! I didn't even consider that that might be missing. Atchuuu, he is talking about the top of the pin bolt where the spring and nut is. When you push the handle down to lock the bucket the top of the pin cams over and rotates to the side. When it rotates to the side it should move under a block welded on the SSQA pad so it can't be pushed straight up because hitting the block will stop it.

gg

 

[searcyfarms]

There should be a block of steel just above the locking pin when it is locked in. The early buckets did not have them and the pin could raise up and the bucket come loose. My L3130 did not have them, but the L4240 and up has them.

lol thats what i said needed to be fabricated - break out the welder

 

[Atchuuu]

There should be a block of steel just above the locking pin when it is locked in. The early buckets did not have them and the pin could raise up and the bucket come loose. My L3130 did not have them, but the L4240 and up has them.

I have read your reply multiple times and I am not understanding what I am missing on the bucket. The arms are not popping out of position and the pins remain in the lowered position and the bucket is still coming off.

Thanks to all for your help and interest in this thread. Hope I can get it figured out. Will post a reply with the solution when I do.

 

[Leejohn]

I know I said bucket I should of said SSQA. Read Gordon Gould post he said it better then me. As for as the pin in place after the bucket comes off does not mean the spring loaded pins did not pop up and let go of the bucket. You would not even see that when it did it.

 

[Xfaxman]

Here are the stop blocks:

What does the top angle on the bucket look like? Is it bent? Some QA plates don't fit up in there very far and the bucket can slide off if there is too much gap at the bottom:

 

[ruffdog]

xfaxman....those are interesting pictures of wimpy engagement points on the orange ssqa. I would be doing some re-engineering for sure.

 

[Gary Fowler]

Looks to me like that bucket is worn out where the SSQA wedge is sopossed to hold it.

Once you verify you SSQA pin, spring and lever operation, you are going to need to repair that bucket or your problem will persist.

I dont see any wear or bending that isn't supposed to be bent. The cut out box lines are straight with no indication on any wear other than paint worn off . From the scrapped off paint, it looks like the OP might be trying to hook up on unlevel ground because the paint is scuffed off badly on the left side but not on the right.
Try hooking / unhooking on level ground and it will go easier although really not necessary. The way to hookup it to tilt your QA assembly to full dump and maneuver it under to top lip till both sides are fully engaged, then raise the FEL and tilt the bucket back so the weight of the bucket is keeping it engaged against the pins the lower the handles fully to engage the pins and compress the spring.
There is an adjustment to adjust the spring tension. It should be really tight but no so tight that you cant fully depress the lever.
My brother-in-law's New Holland got so loose once that there was no spring tension to hold the pin down. The pin was about 1 thread from falling off, so check that also.

 

[searcyfarms]

ok guys call me stupid but it looks to me like the pins are 180 degrees out of position, when you approach to attach the short part of the pin should be towards the implement so it slides the pin upward as it locked into place and the long part of the pin is toward the tractor - that is the way they are on my skid steer also, i dont have a QA on my deere to compare but this set up looks backwards - the taper will never catch the flange/iron loop hole to hold the back part of the pin should.

 

[ovrszd]

ok guys call me stupid but it looks to me like the pins are 180 degrees out of position, when you approach to attach the short part of the pin should be towards the implement so it slides the pin upward as it locked into place and the long part of the pin is toward the tractor - that is the way they are on my skid steer also, i dont have a QA on my deere to compare but this set up looks backwards - the taper will never catch the flange/iron loop hole to hold the back part of the pin should.

I've never saw one like you describe. Got any pics?

All I've saw have the taper toward the tractor, long tip toward attachment.

The more the pin lowers, the tighter it gets.

 

[D2Cat]

See post #7 with picture. That is the correct pin position for this loader.

 

[Xfaxman]

The flat surface of the tapered pin goes against the attachment notch as shown in post#7:

 

[CADplans]

Here are my SSQA tapered pins,, for the sake of argument,,,

The taper is towards the tractor,,

I have close to a half dozen "attachments" , all home made,, even my bucket,,
this SSQA adapter has never dropped one attachment,, and I have thrashed the attachments with this close to 10K pound tractor,,

 

[ovrszd]

Yep. That's the only kind I've saw.