XG3025 Recall

[Big Blue Florida]

HEY do let us know just how that thing works out.
Is it the short one or long ?

 

[fgsiii]

HEY do let us know just how that thing works out.
Is it the short one or long ?

Big Blue Florida, I'm not sure what you are asking. What is long or short? According to my dealer the 1100 hoe is the same for all XG series tractors but the sub frames are different for different model tractors in the XG series. Sub frame 1106 is the only one that will fit the XG3025. I can only take him at his word and he has been totally accurate on all other questions I have asked. I'm going to take my tractor to him on Monday (5/11/18) and he's sure he can get it installed,checked out and delivered back to me by weeks end.If you go to Backhoes | LS Tractor you will see what he is saying. Actually the 1100 hoe is also used on the MT and XJ series but again with different sub frames. This is confusing!

 

[Big Blue Florida]

Ok sorry there
I meant concerning the those special grease fitting which go on the ends of the hose leading from the grease gun.

There are two length available. Sorry for not being clear the first time.

We received word from the dealer doing our recall.
This coming Monday we are to have our tractor returned.


Noticed on your list of back hoe frames......our unit carries a 2817 lb bucket digging force.
That exceed some of the other tractors w/ greater HP. Most interesting to learn our 24.5 HP is turning a very strong hydro pump for the Back Hoe.

That list is again very interesting, much thanks

 

[Big Blue Florida]

Well now, YET another up date on our XG3025H..............it's home.

Derrick from Trenton Farm Equipment in greater down town Trenton, Florida, arrived this AM w/ his Chief Tech Guy, Sebastian.

Went over the new additions.
Must say the additions are most impressive. All the attachments were put back in place.

Yes, it runs great.
There was a call from Terry the LS Service Rep guy in the Carolinas, he suggested we use it & be sure we are pleased w/ everything.

Something interesting was brought to our attention. There was a part missing. Seems our selling dealer left off the top mounted turn buckle.
It anchors the back of the tractor to the anchor point under the seat on the back hoe. We never knew this.

We were given this part as something for the box blade & the other rear mounted implements. Not even suggested to use it on the back hoe.

It was suggested this addition should better stabilize the back hoe attachment.

Is everyone else using this top turn buckle ?

Our Big Blue is home & tomorrow is going to be a full day. Nothing like playing catch up between the afternoon rain storms around here.

 

[3Lfarms]

Yes, you need to install the top link when using the subframe backhoe.

 

[Big Blue Florida]

Much thanks 3Lfarms,
To think we have been using our back hoe w/o this link advantage.
So much for being informed at the selling dealer level.

We have been clocking well over 200 hrs & doing it wrong. Well much thanks to the recall dealer Trenton Farm Equipment in FL.

 

[fgsiii]

Well now, YET another up date on our XG3025H..............it's home.

Derrick from Trenton Farm Equipment in greater down town Trenton, Florida, arrived this AM w/ his Chief Tech Guy, Sebastian.

Went over the new additions.
Must say the additions are most impressive. All the attachments were put back in place.

Yes, it runs great.
There was a call from Terry the LS Service Rep guy in the Carolinas, he suggested we use it & be sure we are pleased w/ everything.

Something interesting was brought to our attention. There was a part missing. Seems our selling dealer left off the top mounted turn buckle.
It anchors the back of the tractor to the anchor point under the seat on the back hoe. We never knew this.

We were given this part as something for the box blade & the other rear mounted implements. Not even suggested to use it on the back hoe.

It was suggested this addition should better stabilize the back hoe attachment.

Is everyone else using this top turn buckle ?

Our Big Blue is home & tomorrow is going to be a full day. Nothing like playing catch up between the afternoon rain storms around here.

Big Blue Florida I'm glad that you finally got your tractor back. Yesterday I took my XG3025 back to the dealer to have a backhoe installed, it should be delivered back to me by the end of the week. Last evening I read through the operators manual but don't recall anything about hooking up the top link. I'll double check when I get out to the shop this morning. Enjoy your tractor.

 

[Big Blue Florida]

Maybe that ''link'' (turn buckle) was thought to not be important for just a home owner w/ a little land.
But listening to the Trenton Farm Equipment guys it just makes 100% good thinking.

You are going to really enjoy your back hoe.
What size bucket are you getting ?

 

[fgsiii]

I'm getting two buckets, 9" and 18". What size are you using?

 

[Big Blue Florida]

I believe those are the two size buckets we have.

We use the big one for ditch digging & the narrow one for stumps & such.

We have a lot of wet work here & use marine grease on all the low grease points after every ''wet'' operation.
After changing buckets we slap fresh grease in the holes of the last bucket to keep rust from starting while not in use.
Grease is really cheap insurance & a good reason to keep an inspection routine in place.

 

[fgsiii]

Big Blue Florida I'm glad that you finally got your tractor back. Yesterday I took my XG3025 back to the dealer to have a backhoe installed, it should be delivered back to me by the end of the week. Last evening I read through the operators manual but don't recall anything about hooking up the top link. I'll double check when I get out to the shop this morning. Enjoy your tractor.

I double checked my operator manual for the backhoe and it does not mention anything about the top link. Guess I need to figure that out when I get my tractor with the backhoe back. I really like the tractor but can't say anything good about the manuals.

 

[3Lfarms]

Much thanks 3Lfarms,
To think we have been using our back hoe w/o this link advantage.
So much for being informed at the selling dealer level.

We have been clocking well over 200 hrs & doing it wrong. Well much thanks to the recall dealer Trenton Farm Equipment in FL.

My tractor came with the backhoe installed. The normal top link was in the cab and it came with the heavy duty link installed on the hoe. I put it back the way they had it every time I put it on.

 

[Lbdg8885]

Same model and have no clue about top link. Can someone post a picture?

 

[Big Blue Florida]

Sure, will take a pix of the link in place as soon as it's day light & after coffee.

 

[Big Blue Florida]

Sorry for taking so long. We get side tracked easily around here.

 

[Doofy]

Why so many differences between the same makes of tractors? My xr3135 does not use a top-link to the hoe.

 

[Big Blue Florida]

I really don't know for sure.
Perhaps it may have been better to have this link on this 1100 BH & it may not have been required on the smaller BH offered.

Keep in mind when we first bought this tractor from the selling dealer it was in May of 2016. Dealer's name, Allen Farm & Lawn Equipment, no longer in business in Ocala, FL.
At this time the dealer offered two different size BH, but only one bucket size (9inch) for the lesser BH.

Even here, I never saw the other BH, but the dealer suggested it was the same size as a BH attached to a smaller tractor but w/ the same 3 cylinder
motor as was in the XG3025.
The dealer said this XG3025 had a bigger hydro pump & the 1100 BH was an upgrade & the larger bucket could be used as well.

At no time did we see any of this in a catalog, just conversation w/ the dealer.

IF YOU are using the 1100 BH on your XG3025, I suggest you consider this link. Perhaps another 50 USD.
To us, it just makes good sense. The recall dealer, Trenton Farm Equipment in Trenton, FL saw it was missing & rather surprised it had not been attached. We had the link in a box & at that time thought it was to be used w/ the other attachments, which we bought in our package deal.
But our XG3025H did not have the link attached when delivered. Link & a few other items were in a box & so they sat for all this time.

A larger frame tractor may not require this link advantage, if using the same back hoe.

To date there may be no other option for the XG3025(H) of back hoe size.

We have done a lot of stump removal w/ our rig. We have some near unbelievable pix of these stump extractions. This tractor combination Back Hoe 1100 is great for us.

 

[jdom84]

I really don't know for sure.
Perhaps it may have been better to have this link on this 1100 BH & it may not have been required on the smaller BH offered.

Keep in mind when we first bought this tractor from the selling dealer it was in May of 2016. Dealer's name, Allen Farm & Lawn Equipment, no longer in business in Ocala, FL.
At this time the dealer offered two different size BH, but only one bucket size (9inch) for the lesser BH.

Even here, I never saw the other BH, but the dealer suggested it was the same size as a BH attached to a smaller tractor but w/ the same 3 cylinder
motor as was in the XG3025.
The dealer said this XG3025 had a bigger hydro pump & the 1100 BH was an upgrade & the larger bucket could be used as well.

At no time did we see any of this in a catalog, just conversation w/ the dealer.

IF YOU are using the 1100 BH on your XG3025, I suggest you consider this link. Perhaps another 50 USD.
To us, it just makes good sense. The recall dealer, Trenton Farm Equipment in Trenton, FL saw it was missing & rather surprised it had not been attached. We had the link in a box & at that time thought it was to be used w/ the other attachments, which we bought in our package deal.
But our XG3025H did not have the link attached when delivered. Link & a few other items were in a box & so they sat for all this time.

A larger frame tractor may not require this link advantage, if using the same back hoe.

To date there may be no other option for the XG3025(H) of back hoe size.

We have done a lot of stump removal w/ our rig. We have some near unbelievable pix of these stump extractions. This tractor combination Back Hoe 1100 is great for us.

I assume you are talking about the XJ2025 with the lb1104 hoe... but there are more options for buckets then 9"... I got a 12" with mine.

The top link most likely keeps the hoe from loosening up at the lower 8 bolts that hold it to the sub-frame. This happens to the XJ when after heavily using the hoe for a several hours and a link like that would limit any type of movement to start.

 

[Big Blue Florida]

Thanks for addition & correction.

You're most right about those bolts coming loose. It's an on going issue w/ our tractor as well.
We're looking forward to having this upper link do its designed task.

We have had a lot of rain following our tractors return. Today was our first real test of the new rigging.
Another stump removal under way.

 

[fgsiii]

Sorry for taking so long. We get side tracked easily around here.



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Big Blue Florida thanks for posting that photo of how the top link is attached to your tractor/backhoe. After looking at the photo I went through my LB1100 Backhoe Operators Manual again and there is no mention of the top link & the illustrations do not show it at all. Hopefully my tractor will be back tomorrow or Saturday and I can see if it has the top link attached. You have mentioned that you have photos of "stump removal" any chance you can post some pictures? Thanks