XG3025 Recall

[Big Blue Florida]

Another up date on our XG3025H. Just off the phone w/ Trenton Farm Equipment, in Trenton, FL.
The motor arrived yesterday.
It has been installed & runs great......However, the bolster sent (blue skid plate looking thing in the pix above) was for a non back hoe tractor.

So dealer calls the SE LS tractor rep & all is explained.....now we must wait until the correct bolster arrives.

Please note:
The earlier term ''motor sub frame'' was used; now the dealer is using the ''bolster'' term.

The motor arrived in a near ready to install level of assembly.
Valve cover was installed by factory.
As w/ oil pan
Fan belt & alternator too

The external oil pump is being reused.

Dealer replacing both coolant hoses w/ their clamps & new coolant.

It is interesting that there are LS contributors working separately to send different tractor parts to our dealer in FL.
The motor was shipped from Korea direct.

Perhaps motor assembly is Mitsubishi direct & the mounts, frame & bolster are from LS plant.

There has been some miscommunication during this LS tractor recall, but we do not feel we are getting the run around from any part of the solution from LS or their contributors.

 

[Trikejay]

They definitely seem to be taken care of you. Hopefully they can get back to you soon.

 

[robertsa]

Agreed, it sounds like they're working hard to make it right. It's good to hear.

 

[ItsPR2u]

My dealer told me it was resolved & is being resolved with any outstanding customers with issues, but new ones fixed. I went with the xg3135h, planning that in 5 yrs when warranty out, chip computer to be xg3140h.

 

[Lbdg8885]

My dealer told me it was resolved & is being resolved with any outstanding customers with issues, but new ones fixed. I went with the xg3135h, planning that in 5 yrs when warranty out, chip computer to be xg3140h.

I didn’t know chipping was an option. Does that work on the xg3025?

 

[Big Blue Florida]

Short answer NO.

There is not an electric fuel control system.
Rather than electrically monitored it is simply mechanically controlled.

Before jumping ship from the xg3025 be sure you know for a fact you can do such an upgrade w/ the desired results.
Getting more hp at the cost of a chip may have worked on a muscle a few years back or even work trucks.

I'd be sure the smog system on the tractor motor you are thinking about will handle the increase in exhaust demands.

If it does work out, PLEASE let us all know w

 

[fgsiii]

JUst got a call from the LS Dealer I purchased my tractor from, They are trying to set up a pickup for a recall that must be done ASAP. I am 4 hours away from this dealer and they are trying to have the work done an hour away. Does anyone have a clear understanding of the recall? what is involved? thanks in advance.

Greetings, last week my XG3025 was delivered and I've been busy getting familiar with it and checking everything per the manual. When I ordered the tractor I included a 3rd function so I could use a grapple, which really works great in my woodlot. Sometime during the past few days I stumbled onto this forum and signed up, then came the dreaded realization that I may have purchased a tractor with a serious defect. I have read every post in the Recall thread and remain confused about exactly must be done to remedy the problem. Seems different XG3025's require different fixes. Also don't know how to tell the manufacture date of my tractor, the engine data plate says it was manufactured in 11/2017 but the tractor data plate does not include the date of manufacture, at least not in plain English. Anyone know how to find the tractor date of manufacture? I want to learn as much as I can about this recall before I contact my dealer, so any additional guidance will be greatly appreciated. In closing let me say the XG3025 seems to be a great tractor and does everything I need to do. This forum is also a great asset, I've learned a lot since I joined.

 

[Big Blue Florida]

UP DATE :
Our XG3025H is getting a totally different sub frame
We should be seeing our tractor next week.

But seeing is believing.
Not casting any negative vibes towards anyone.

It has just been a long time.
Perhaps worst yet is the basic mistakes made along the way.
Wrong parts sent, then U S Custom delay of the LS shipping container....It was due to an shipping LS employee & no one in this country.

This thought may not make any difference to some of us; I believe all the phone calls to the regional reps & to the manager & his staff at the repairing LS dealer in Trenton, FL & yours as well, will come to a great decline. These LS employees will be relieved, too.

We have always been polite & will remain firmly in this mindset.
Have no doubt these folks (LS) want our tractors back doing what they were meant to do.

 

[fgsiii]

UP DATE :
Our XG3025H is getting a totally different sub frame
We should be seeing our tractor next week.

But seeing is believing.
Not casting any negative vibes towards anyone.

It has just been a long time.
Perhaps worst yet is the basic mistakes made along the way.
Wrong parts sent, then U S Custom delay of the LS shipping container....It was due to an shipping LS employee & no one in this country.

This thought may not make any difference to some of us; I believe all the phone calls to the regional reps & to the manager & his staff at the repairing LS dealer in Trenton, FL & yours as well, will come to a great decline. These LS employees will be relieved, too.

We have always been polite & will remain firmly in this mindset.
Have no doubt these folks (LS) want our tractors back doing what they were meant to do.

Thanks for the update on your tractor Big Blue. Does anyone know when this problem was corrected at the factory for new production? I'm still not sure if my XG3025 has the problem or not. Has anyone figured out how to determine the manufacture date on their tractor? Thanks for any info.

 

[gersus]

I felt the oil pan area on mine last weekend and got a little fresh oil. I've used my loader a lot for some tough work so if it were going to stress that area it should've happened. It isn't bad enough to cause a change in oil level though yet.

 

[Big Blue Florida]

I felt the oil pan area on mine last weekend and got a little fresh oil. I've used my loader a lot for some tough work so if it were going to stress that area it should've happened. It isn't bad enough to cause a change in oil level though yet.

This was exactly how our issues started.

Hey ''fgsiii'', spoke w/ our recall LS dealer about what you asked.
If I remember correctly it was changed for those tractors which were going to be billed as 2018.
However, he also suggested there were some earlier tractors for 2017 that were caught before exporting.

It should be noted, tractors fitted w/ the larger back hoe will get a different subframe replacement. If anyone has experience something other than this please jump in. We all would like to hear about it.
Our xg3025h is one such & this is one reason for the continued delay. The wrong motor subframe was sent in the ''recall kit'', from LS.

Our selling dealer (no longer in business & this should not suggest anything) offered two size back hoes.
We elected to go w/ the larger back hoe w/ two different size buckets.




Exactly what is the difference between the to selections of back hoes......one was the limited bucket size on the lesser of the two.

 

[Trikejay]

So I was driving by the New Holland dealer and noticed they had some new ones on the lot. New Holland now has an identical tractor to the XG3025. Workmaster 25. Only difference are the sub frame and the loader frame. Subframe is like what Big Blue Florida posted. 3 plates welded together. The FEL frame is way more substantial and mounts way forward of the engine and back on the transmission. Does not mount to the engine at all. Other than that 100% LS.

 

[fgsiii]

This was exactly how our issues started.

Hey ''fgsiii'', spoke w/ our recall LS dealer about what you asked.
If I remember correctly it was changed for those tractors which were going to be billed as 2018.
However, he also suggested there were some earlier tractors for 2017 that were caught before exporting.

It should be noted, tractors fitted w/ the larger back hoe will get a different subframe replacement. If anyone has experience something other than this please jump in. We all would like to hear about it.
Our xg3025h is one such & this is one reason for the continued delay. The wrong motor subframe was sent in the ''recall kit'', from LS.

Our selling dealer (no longer in business & this should not suggest anything) offered two size back hoes.
We elected to go w/ the larger back hoe w/ two different size buckets.


Exactly what is the difference between the to selections of back hoes......one was the limited bucket size on the lesser of the two.

That's good info Big Blue Florida, thanks. I did not get a backhoe with mine, just the FEL but I'm thinking about getting the backhoe. My dealer only offers the LB 1106 for the XG3025 and that's the only one listed on the LS website for this tractor. My tractor is listed as a 2017 so I'm going to see my dealer tomorrow and see what info he has. I'll post anything I learn. Thanks again.

 

[Big Blue Florida]

Just went o/s to get some numbers off our back hoe.
Started to rain, so I tried to lift off the big tarp only to peek under to flash light the boom area.

OMG there was something living under there.

This adventure can wait for a drier time & a lot of sun light. Plus all my dogs are going w/ me; whether they like it or not.

This is a bit funny & sad.
Grown man jumping back from some hissing/growing & our tractor has been gone way to long & in to many parts.

Wife is in TN visiting family otherwise she'd would have been the first one in the house.

I am most glad to learn about New Holland's entering into the compact tractor nitch. We may be able to get parts from another source now.

Trikejay
You must have a hunter's eye to have spotted that ''Workmaster 25'' amount all that blue.
By chance did you get a cost on that new blue 25 ? Just curious .

Well it all sounds pretty good for us. We now know for sure the fix is in & it's for sale at a New Holland dealer near you.
Good info,
Thanks for the report

 

[fgsiii]

Just went o/s to get some numbers off our back hoe.
Started to rain, so I tried to lift off the big tarp only to peek under to flash light the boom area.

OMG there was something living under there.

This adventure can wait for a drier time & a lot of sun light. Plus all my dogs are going w/ me; whether they like it or not.

This is a bit funny & sad.
Grown man jumping back from some hissing/growing & our tractor has been gone way to long & in to many parts.

Wife is in TN visiting family otherwise she'd would have been the first one in the house.

I am most glad to learn about New Holland's entering into the compact tractor nitch. We may be able to get parts from another source now.

Trikejay
You must have a hunter's eye to have spotted that ''Workmaster 25'' amount all that blue.
By chance did you get a cost on that new blue 25 ? Just curious .

Well it all sounds pretty good for us. We now know for sure the fix is in & it's for sale at a New Holland dealer near you.
Good info,
Thanks for the report

I hope the critter living with your backhoe is not a vicious thing. I've had similar scares here in North Carolina only to find out it was only a harmless possum or blacksnake, in any case it can get your attention fast. It would be interesting to know which model backhoe you have if time and animals permit. Thanks

 

[Big Blue Florida]

Well ''fgsiii'' was most correct.

It was & still was there this AM, a possum. This time I stood back for peace offering to whatever. We all do better w/ a little room.
After all that lightning & rain no wonder it returned.

Good thing the wife isn't here now.....or I'd know what was for dinner. Those TN gals sure can cook....anything.

Thought to include a tape for the bucket size.
Just under 19'' wide w/ 4 teeth, other bucket is 10'' w/ 3 smaller teeth.
Length of the attached rails going under the tractor is 48+''.
Model #1100 is on the attached AL plate.
Serial # just to long to recall, but if you need it.....

Something I just found out which is interesting.....there are no more New Holland dealers in FL. Have been on the net looking for the nearest to Jax, FL. They are listed as ''CLOSED". This cannot be correct. I see them in Hastings, FL working next to the jolly greens all the time.
Anyone know if there is a shake up going on ?

 

[fgsiii]

Well ''fgsiii'' was most correct.

It was & still was there this AM, a possum. This time I stood back for peace offering to whatever. We all do better w/ a little room.
After all that lightning & rain no wonder it returned.

Good thing the wife isn't here now.....or I'd know what was for dinner. Those TN gals sure can cook....anything.

Thought to include a tape for the bucket size.
Just under 19'' wide w/ 4 teeth, other bucket is 10'' w/ 3 smaller teeth.
Length of the attached rails going under the tractor is 48+''.
Model #1100 is on the attached AL plate.
Serial # just to long to recall, but if you need it.....

Something I just found out which is interesting.....there are no more New Holland dealers in FL. Have been on the net looking for the nearest to Jax, FL. They are listed as ''CLOSED". This cannot be correct. I see them in Hastings, FL working next to the jolly greens all the time.
Anyone know if there is a shake up going on ?

I'm glad you made friends with the critter living in your backhoe and I'm thankful for all the information you have provided. I went to see my dealer today about the recall and he assured me that mine came with the factory fix, so not to worry. He did explain in detail how they fixed the ones that were sold with the defect, he was very familiar with the procedure because he had fixed the 29 that he had sold. So while I was there I asked him about the backhoe for the XG3025, it's a 1100 series hoe with a 1106 sub frame. As my luck would have it they were on sale for $4900 plus tax, installed. I couldn't pass that up so gave him a down payment and will take my tractor back tomorrow for installation. I wish that I could provide some info on New Holland dealers but don't have any close by. I hope you get your tractor with backhoe in excellent condition very soon. Thanks again.

 

[Big Blue Florida]

Outstanding fgsiii
Glad we could be of some help.

May I suggest, you keep up w/ the grease points & if you're going to be working in a lot of water (digging out ditch, pond etc)
Grease is cheap, repairs are not so.
It was suggested to me by a road equipment maintenance supervisor decades back to use a marine HD grease after a days work in water. Since then, I have never replaced a bushing, bearing or pin due to lack of proper grease.

Sorry to all, not attempting to jack anyones topic w/ a ''to grease w/ or not to grease'' subject.

Your dealer is most likely going to service your back hoe but go over every grease point & be aware of its location & what special tool/fitting you may require to properly reach/service these points.

Perhaps I should not have had that second large cup of coffee this AM. I personally own way too many grease guns, all ready for another hurricane clean up I suppose.

Now let the fun begin

Remember you must post up photos of your first project using that new rig (back hoe).

 

[fgsiii]

Outstanding fgsiii
Glad we could be of some help.

May I suggest, you keep up w/ the grease points & if you're going to be working in a lot of water (digging out ditch, pond etc)
Grease is cheap, repairs are not so.
It was suggested to me by a road equipment maintenance supervisor decades back to use a marine HD grease after a days work in water. Since then, I have never replaced a bushing, bearing or pin due to lack of proper grease.

Sorry to all, not attempting to jack anyones topic w/ a ''to grease w/ or not to grease'' subject.

Your dealer is most likely going to service your back hoe but go over every grease point & be aware of its location & what special tool/fitting you may require to properly reach/service these points.

Perhaps I should not have had that second large cup of coffee this AM. I personally own way too many grease guns, all ready for another hurricane clean up I suppose.

Now let the fun begin

Remember you must post up photos of your first project using that new rig (back hoe).

Thanks for the grease advice, as a matter of fact earlier this morning I ordered a "LockNLube" device for my grease gun, should be here Thursday.
Thanks again Big Blue Florida.

 

[Trikejay]

Thanks for the reminder. I have to buy a new grease gun. Mine broke the last time I used it. These tractors have like a thousand grease zerks all over the place. Lol.