Hay wagons; let's see them!

[CliffordK]

Storage for straps to tie down the load. Frame is built for 14 metric tons

14 tons of hay?

Is that hand loaded from the ground? How heavy of bales?

It looks like it also has a lot of tongue weight.

 

[DMF]

Clifford - I'll let Tor answer, but my experience in Germany, Switzerland, and communication with Massey owners in England, it seems like they tend to use trailers with a lot more tongue load than we typically use here. Not sure why.....?

 

[Tor Arne]

Trailer frame was meant to another use but after that need changing so I used what I had. Hay bale weighs about 35kg apiece. And drawbar weight helps with getting traction, trailer has hydraulic brakes that are connected to the brake system of the tractor. Where I live we use a different type of hitch than in the United States.

 

[wmonroe]

Looks like what would call a pintle hitch.

 

[Tor Arne]

we call it a pickup hitch, the beauty of it is that one can connect to a trailer without leaving the tractor. release the lock, drop it down, back the tractor till eye on the trailer and lift up the hook then everything is ready to run

 

[CliffordK]

Hay bale weighs about 35kg apiece.

So, about 77lb bales.

Still, say 10,000kg / 35kg = 285 bales... that would be a big load. But, still good for a "repurposed" trailer frame.

I presume the tractor can take a fairly heavy load, especially with the pintle hitch mounted to the differential.

As far as wheel location, I guess it would depend on a number of factors, especially where it is used and what is towing it. Here in the USA, just about anybody with more than 1 acre owns a pickup which does best with less than 1000lbs or so of tongue weight. A truck, of course, might be designed for much more tongue weight (usually 5th wheel). Around the farm with the tractor, it probably does well with that setup, and undoubtedly helps with traction.

 

[farmall 55a case]

Trailer frame was meant to another use but after that need changing so I used what I had. Hay bale weighs about 35kg apiece. And drawbar weight helps with getting traction, trailer has hydraulic brakes that are connected to the brake system of the tractor. Where I live we use a different type of hitch than in the United States.<img src="http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=328717"/>

I will want one!

 

[DMF]

Here in the USA, just about anybody with more than 1 acre owns a pickup which does best with less than 1000lbs or so of tongue weight. A truck, of course, might be designed for much more tongue weight (usually 5th wheel). Around the farm with the tractor, it probably does well with that setup, and undoubtedly helps with traction.

And there lies the big difference. When I've been in Europe, you rarely see a pick-up. Most farmers drive their tractors on the roads much more and much further than we do. My buddy who lives in Germany says it's something to do with taxes....? It's cheaper to register a tractor than a truck of comparable hauling capabilities.

 

[Tor Arne]

Here in the USA, just about anybody with more than 1 acre owns a pickup which does best with less than 1000lbs or so of tongue weight. A truck, of course, might be designed for much more tongue weight (usually 5th wheel).

Many farmers have pickup truck here too, but rarely anything larger than a Toyota hilux due to road tax. I pay about 1000USD per year in road tax on the hilux, almost 800USD in insurance and I pay a little over 8.5 USD for a gallon of disel. Lorries were more common for farmers before, but because of the tax is almost no one bother with it now. And we have much stricter rules about how much weight we can tow with a car / pickup

 

[DMF]

I knew it was something like that!

 

[AC Billy]

Thought I would throw in my hay wagon rebuild from this summer. I picked this "Electric ...." wagon running gear for $150 with froze spindles. I ended up splitting the spindle housings with 4 1/2" angle grinder and cut-off wheel. Then cleaning up the spindle shaft , then rewelding the spindle housing . Straightened the tierod , lengthened the wagon to 16' , it is my intention to use for hayrides .

Wood from a neighbors removed pool deck ... 2 x 6 treated. Main rails 2 x12 treated.

 

[GGB]

Very nice! The kids (young and old) ought to enjoy that ride.

 

[sixdogs]

Great project and great hay wagon.

 

[Paul N]

Nice job. Did you paint the tractor too? I don't see any decals on it. Is it a WD?

 

[AC Billy]

Nice job. Did you paint the tractor too? I don't see any decals on it. Is it a WD?

Thanks, yes it's a WD . Been working on restoring it for about a year now. I painted the wagon first , then
the tractor . I still have the fenders, rear hitch and loader to paint

 

[wmonroe]

Nice job on the wagon and the tractor.

 

[Jersey man]

My hay wagon is an old David Bradley sold by Sears and Roebuck... 1950's.

mark

does you wagon have spoke rims. I have a Sears wagon that has spoke rims but I can not remove hubs. The hubs have peru on them with two slots on front. any help

will be greatly appreciated

 

[sixdogs]

ACBilly---what size tires did you put on that? It has a nice low-boy look to it. Really good job.

 

[sfbeemer]

I have the same Peru hubs on an old Sears running gear. The cast Peru marked hub cap just threads off. Put a drift pin against the side of the slot and tap with a hammer in order to break the hub loose. Inside is conventional tapered roller bearing arrangement with slotted nut to adjust the bearings.

I've just recently taken mine apart. I didn't find any inboard wheel seals. I wonder if they had seals? Just O-rings in the grooves on the spindle shoulder?

 

[BIGTOOLRACK]

That's cool!