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40 hour review—long read

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Amfab

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TX25
40-ish Hour Review Part One

TLDR:
Some minor issues, but overall a very positive experience, especially with customer support. The tractor performs well, is appropriately powered, and is quite capable.

I am coming up on the 50-hour service with about 42 hours on the clock. I decided to post a review of my experiences with my Summit TX25 with LX85 loader and throw in a review of the attachments I am currently using on it.

The tractor is located in Mexico, in northern Baja California. Importation was complicated and took a long time to figure out, but it finally arrived six weeks ago, and I have been using it almost daily, through June into July of 2025. The location is an arid coastal desert, and the temperatures in which I have been operating have ranged over this period from 85°F to 110°F, with most operation in the 95°F to 105°F range.

The terrain varies from deep, soft beach sand to dusty, hard-packed, rock-strewn desert.

The type of work I have been doing over this period has been leveling roads, clearing debris, and pulling rocks out of dirt roadbeds, landscaping that includes moving many tons of sand and boulders ranging from 50 to 500 pounds or more.

Commentary on the tractor purchase and the tractor itself.
I had an odd situation as I was purchasing to import directly to Mexico, which required delivery to a customs house in California on the southern border. I ordered online through Runnings as there are no dealers in California at this time. The people at Runnings were very helpful in making this happen. This required many phone calls as we sorted through how to deal with delivery and tax issues.

Once I placed the order, I received excellent communication and support from Summit regarding delivery timing and logistics. Because of the somewhat complicated delivery logistics, Summit’s founder and CEO even called and texted on several occasions to ensure everything was going well. The tractor was delivered rapidly (30 hours after leaving the Atlanta factory). It arrived about an hour later than projected, which was pretty amazing for a trip from Atlanta to Calexico, California. $500 shipping was a great deal for the delivery, which I am certain was a loss for the company at that distance. It then spent a week clearing customs, and I had it shipped the rest of the way to my house in Baja by a Mexican shipper.

I spent the next 72 hours familiarizing myself with the tractor by moving sand around with the bucket and box blade. At this point, three issues became apparent with the tractor.

1). The rear tires were effectively overfilled with RimGuard. I say effectively, because this is how it manifested for me. I run the tires at the lowest pressure recommended by the manual because I operate primarily on soft sand, and I need maximum traction. From the factory, the tires are logically inflated at the high end of the range recommended by the manual for maximum weight capacity. The amount of Rim Guard was right up to the valve stem at this pressure. This makes it impossible to accurately check the air pressure once I have dropped the pressure down a little. In other words, when I initially began to let the first one or two pounds out with the stem at 12 o’clock, I got air at first, but within a few seconds, it began spewing Rim Guard. (I ruined a nice tire gauge by getting it gummed up by this stuff.) The temperature was in the 90s, but that should not have caused that much expansion. I thought that this may be related to the lower air pressures I was targeting. Letting air out could be causing the tire to flatten out slightly, making the internal level of the Rim Guard rise slightly. In the end, I jacked up the rear of the tractor to take the pressure off the bottom of the tires, but still had to remove close to two gallons of Rim Guard from each rear tire. This was an extremely messy process, and while Rim Guard does not have a particularly offensive odor, the smell now brings up memories of the mess. Fortunately, it washes off very easily with just water.​

2). The set screw for the loader control handle came loose after about 12 hours of operation, causing it to rotate side to side. It was a very simple fix with a hex wrench that only required pulling the boot down a couple of inches and tightening the set screw. It was never in danger of coming off.​

3). The Dipstick: I checked the oil when I first received the tractor and again after a couple of hours of use. I had read about the difficulty of finding the dipstick hole when replacing it, so I was conscious of being careful to locate the hole when putting it back in. Over the next 36 hours, I noticed a little fluid dripping from the bottom of the tractor, which I assumed was hydraulic fluid. I worried that I had hit or scraped a rock or something. After investigating, I discovered that the last time I replaced the dipstick—while I did get it into the hole with the help of a flashlight—the bottom of the rubber mushroom-shaped dipstick gasket caught on the edge of the tube, making it feel like it had seated properly. What I learned is that the dipstick comes in at an angle, which requires you to watch it from the side as it goes in to ensure the plug/gasket aligns with the angle of the tube, even if the stick is already in the tube. The plug bottom (the bottom of the “mushroom stem”) ended up sitting on the top edge of the tube, rather than going into the tube, so the “mushroom top” didn't seat. This lets a small amount of oil randomly spatter out. After I cleaned everything up and got the dipstick in properly, it was fine. It's not necessarily a design flaw, although a longer tube and stick to eliminate this easy-to-make error would be beneficial. From now on, I will just take extra care and kneel down with a flashlight when replacing the dipstick when checking the oil to ensure the dipstick is not only in, but that its plug/gasket is properly seated..​

Tractor Performance: Other than the above three really minor issues, the tractor has performed wonderfully. No issues running in the heat. It runs cool, and it is much quieter than I expected.

I inquired on this forum about using spacers on the rear wheels. While I do not have a lot of hills, I can get on some weird angles on sand dunes, so I thought a little extra width may be beneficial. I was informed that this would void the warranty regarding rear axle issues, so I decided against it. So far, though, I have found the tractor very stable without them. The weight of the tractor with the Rim Guard makes it feel as stable as a larger tractor. I have not spent a lot of time on tractors, but comparing the little time I have spent working on a farm with slightly larger 40-50HP tractors, the Summit feels similarly stable with the relative lift capacity of the front loader. I now feel that spacers are not needed. Additionally, the 54-inch stock track width allows me to get into some really tight spaces. The spacers would reduce this benefit. After initially being concerned that the tractor may be a little small, I am finding myself really happy with the size.
The driver position is good, and the seat is one of the most comfortable in this size of tractor. The adjustable armrests are great. Steps on both sides of the rubber mat all make the operation very comfortable, and I feel safer when operating—nearly all the time—wearing flip-flops. The mirrors are in a great location. I am often out working between 6 am and 8 am and 6 pm and 8 pm due to the heat. So the sun is at a low angle, and it is simple just to reach and adjust them so they aren't reflecting the glaring sun directly into my eyes (boy, do I need a canopy badly).

Power: The power seems very appropriate for the tractor, although there are times when a bit more would be helpful. This usually occurs when hauling something heavy, like a load of gravel in the bucket up a slope in deep sand. The gearing is appropriate for a two-speed transmission. I wouldn't want to move any faster in high, and wouldn't want the low any lower. A mid-range would allow a higher work speed in certain situations when moving lighter material around, but I rarely find a situation where it really needs it.

Traction: I was concerned about the deep sand and thought that perhaps I would need to install some radial turf tires to air way down to get more flotation. I may still do this in the future, but so far it has been doing quite well. The use of the heel-operated rear diff lock is convenient and has gotten me quickly out of any situation where I ran into traction challenges. I did get into a situation where I had to move about eight yards of sand in a narrow area on the side of my house, and while smoothing it out, I was unable to back up the slope I had made—even with the locked rear differential. This was about 16-20 inches of dry, freshly dumped beach sand that was not compacted. I had to drive forward down the slope, turn around, and drive forward up the slope to get out. I don't think better tires would have made too much of a difference. I most likely will stay with the R-14s because sometimes, when I am out in the desert crawling over sharp rocks, I like the extra rubber.

Three-Point Hitch: This seems to work well, although it doesn't lift as high as I would like at times. I think this may be a common issue with this size tractor. Fortunately, both the left and right arms are adjustable for tilting, rather than the traditional one side being adjustable, so you can crank them both tighter evenly to get a little extra height.

To be continued...
 
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40-ish Hour Review Part Two (continued from above)

Loader:
Lifting capacity was something I was looking to maximize when originally shopping for a tractor. While the Summit outperforms the equivalent John Deere and Kubotas, I looked into the Badboy 4025 and the Kioti 2026 because their lift capacities are several hundred pounds more than the Summit. Cost was the determining factor. Importation costs for getting the Summit into Mexico ran over $6000, so adding another several thousand dollars to the purchase price, and the resulting increase in import taxes, made those tractors too costly. So I settled for the lower lifting capacity. So far, however, I am finding the lift capacity adequate for what I need to do, although with a Kioti I would have been able to run a 60-inch bucket and haul more sand per scoop, but it is not something that hinders me getting what I need done. Again, the maneuverability combined with the weight and balance is really good, and I find the Summit tractor and loader really well matched to what most people would need to do.
It appears that the Kioti 2026 and BadBoy 4025 are essentially tractor frames designed for 30 or 35hp motors, but use a 25hp motor to get under the emissions requirements. While these frames provide a platform with more lifting capacity, with only 25hp, I would potentially find myself frequently struggling to get up sandy slopes with a larger, full bucket. Again, the Summit seems to have balanced capacities and power very well. All around, the tractor is performing better than I had hoped.

The self-leveling loader was also a factor in my decision to buy the Summit. Other than the other green tractor brand, no one is offering self-leveling loaders on tractors of this size—although Kioti is soon to release an option. While I have operated forklifts and tractors when I was younger, I do not consider myself an operator with a lot of experience, so the levelling option allows me to reduce my attention load when working.
Also, I have to move stuff around a lot on sand. My house is a mile and a half down a dirt road from a highway out on the beach. There is no pavement anywhere except the highway. This means that moving generators, welders and welding tanks, bags of cement and five-gallon paint buckets, and the like is very difficult because in the soft sand, even a double front-wheel barrow is very difficult to use. Dollies and hand carts are out of the question. I knew I would be using the forks and pallets a lot, moving this type of stuff, so the self-leveling loader would be a benefit.
The only negative I have about the loader is that the cylinders in the tilt mechanism leak down fairly quickly. I have a fork-mounted work platform that requires too much attention to keep from tipping forward over just a few minutes with the tractor shut off.

Loader Pin Issue
At about 38 hours I had a pin come out of one of the loader joints. It was the joint that connects the loader arm to the SSQA plate. The other joint that connects to the tilt mechanism was still connected, so the SSQA plate and implement did not fall off; it just sagged on one side. I pulled one of the pins out of the drawbar at the back and stuck it in there to support it while I drove the tractor back to where I could work on it. The pin and circlip were lost somewhere in the sand.

These pins are retained by a circlip. The only scenario I could come up with that could have caused this issue was that I was grabbing large boulders out of rock-filled sandy soil with the grapple. This meant that the lower joint was being pushed in and out of this rocky soil under pressure as I was grabbing and manipulating 200-500lb boulders. I think what happened was a rock in the soil was forced up against the gap in the circlip at just the right angle, expanding it enough to let sand get caught in the now opened-up groove, making the circlip not sit back down into the groove after the pressure was released. Then it was a matter of time before the half-seated circlip was forced off the pin by continued use. Once the circlip was gone, the pin wobbled its way out eventually.

It appears that I have the second-generation loader, and the first-generation loader has an 8mm bolt as a retaining mechanism for these pins. I think those actually would be easier to shear off in a similar situation, and any sort of cotter retaining pin would be more vulnerable than the low-profile circlips. I have read about issues with Deere 1025 and 2038 pin retaining bolts vibrating loose. So I am not certain that another style of pin would be better. Perhaps a little ring or washer welded to the arm around where the pin sticks out to create a recess to protect the circlip could have prevented it. In any event, on to the resolution…

Summit’s Response
This happened around 5:30 pm Pacific time on a Sunday evening. I texted the problem to Summit via their support number with photos, telling them that I needed a replacement part ASAP. I received a response at 9:02 am Pacific time Monday morning (that's 6:02 am Georgia time). They had identified that part, and as a result of it coming out due to the circlip being knocked off or being damaged in some way, it was not covered under warranty. I agreed with this. The pin and retaining clip were just over ten dollars, and I opted for expedited shipping as a friend from California was coming down to Mexico that weekend, and he could bring me the part if it arrived on time. The part arrived Friday afternoon—four days after I placed the order.

I have to comment on this service because it is one of the things that I feel makes Summit stand out. They are very attentive to their customers' needs. When I was deciding on a tractor, I did a lot of research, read a lot of forum comments, and watched a lot of videos. Commentary on reasons not to buy the Summit was almost exclusively in two categories:

1. “It's a small startup without a track record. You could be stuck if they go out of business. Where will you get parts etc.?”
2. “They don't have an established dealer network for service”.

This sounded reasonable until I thought about it for half a second. Firstly, the Summit TX25 is made by ITL, an Indian tractor company that has been around for 30 years and has a similar worldwide market share to that of Yanmar and is substantially larger than LS, Kioti, and many others. The TX25 shares the vast majority of major parts with ITL’s Solis brand. Secondly, I am using the tractor 250 miles from ANY tractor dealer, regardless of brand. I will do service and any minor repairs, and I think that most users will, regardless of distance. I presume that most tractor owners are more self-sufficient and mechanically inclined than the average.

It seems to me that in 2025, a system of being able to contact the tractor company directly to get parts and technical information is more efficient than interacting with dealers. Maybe this would be different if I farmed commercially and had multiple pieces of equipment, or if I lived two or three miles from a John Deere or Kubota dealer, but I don't—either in Los Angeles or in the boonies of Mexico. There is clearly a lot of markup needed to support a dedicated dealer network. I assume this is why a similarly sized and equipped John Deere 2025 would have cost me close to ten thousand dollars more than the Summit and $90 to replace a missing loader pin (I looked it up), rather than the $11 I paid for the Summit pin. Maybe if I had a local dealer and if I lucked out and they had one on their shelves, I could have beat the four-day turnaround on getting the part, but I think that it is more likely they couldn't.

This more modern-style consumer supply path is working in many industries, and while it may impact people who run traditional-model businesses, it benefits the consumer in convenience and price. My issue was resolved quickly, from the middle of nowhere, via text, at half the price. John Deere and other companies with large dealer networks are now providing access via the web to address the convenience side of the equation, but the cost must still remain high to support the dealers. The good thing is that both models exist, so if you want to save the money and go the Summit way, you can choose that, or if the local dealer availability is worth the extra cost to you, then you can go that way. The issue I have is with those who say that this newer model inherently provides a worse experience. It clearly does not. It is a matter of preference, and I prefer the Summit structure.

To be continued...
 
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40-ish Hour Review Part Three (continued from above)

Attachments


Living in Southern California in the Los Angeles area (and part-time in Mexico where the tractor is located), there are not a lot of tractor or implement dealers. Buying online and shipping from the Midwest or Eastern U.S. is generally very expensive. When deciding on attachments and where to buy, I want to support quality companies that make and supply quality equipment for the compact tractor market. Companies like Goodworks and Artillian. Unfortunately, shipping to the West Coast makes these dealers cost-prohibitive, even with Courtney at Good Works working hard to mitigate shipping costs. So, Summit with free shipping, Tractor Supply—an hour northwest of Los Angeles, and San Joaquin Tractors in Bakersfield, two hours north, are my go-tos. Brian Agnetti of San Joaquin Tractors has been especially helpful.



Bucket

The stock Summit 48-inch bucket, sometimes referred to as a 50-inch bucket, is actually 47 inches inside. It is well-made, robust, and light, but it was the one thing that I thought was a little undersized on the tractor. I think that it could handle a 54-inch bucket quite well. That being said, after using it, it does not feel that small; it just feels like a 54-inch bucket would work, although the 48-inch bucket makes it really easy to get into tight spots. The summit can turn pretty tightly, and the bucket way out in front of you can swing around fast as you are operating in tight spots.

I sometimes find the bucket level indicator a bit hard to see, but because the bucket is only 48 inches wide, you can just lean over a little and see the side of the bucket.



Forks

Iron Craft Compact Pallet Forks Model CTFF with 42 x 3-inch tines. 249 Lbs with a 2000 lb capacity:


These were just under $1000.

I chose these over the Summit (which has free shipping) because I wanted the extra six inches of the 42-inch forks with the intent of using them to—among other things—carry my Sunfish and Minifish sailboats down to the water, (the boats are about 48 inches wide). The Iron Craft also weighs 45 lbs less than the Summit and was over $300 cheaper, and I could pick them up in Bakersfield. They seem to be of good quality. I am still very curious how well the Artillian lubricating coating on their fork frame performs, but again, I can not pay that much in shipping.



Grapple

Kioti 48 inch grapple KG2048. 216 Lbs


This was just under $1700.

I chose the Kioti 48-inch grapple because my primary use was going to be for moving rocks. There are not a lot of trees down in Baja, so I do not need a wider grapple for moving long logs or limbs, and I figured that a 48-inch grapple would be wide enough to handle driftwood and small clumps of desert brush but narrow enough to get in tight spots and pick up boulders—which is something I do a lot. So far, this has worked brilliantly using the Summit 3rd function connection, and the grapple’s AR400 steel is really tough. With the tractor, I can easily go out into the desert, pick a ¾ buried 500lb boulder, pull it straight out of the ground, and drive it back home without ever feeling light in the rear or overstressed in the front. At just under $1700, it was $800 or so less than others I was considering. It did require me to spend another $100 to change the fittings to match the Summit third function connections, but still a good deal, and quite light. The tolerances of the SSQA holes on the Kioti grapple are a bit tight, so you have to line it up well, but it fits. This is the attachment that I have been most pleased with so far. The Catwaba was also in the running, but shipping again made it cost-prohibitive to the West Coast.

Boxblade
Summit BBX 60 Box Blade. 60-inch box blade from Summit weighing 441 lbs
Approximately $1300. This was a bit disappointing at first. Primarily because it arrived missing the two bottom pins to mount to the hitch, and the fact that the mounting brackets for the pins that hold the scarifiers were misaligned for two of them. One of them required filing with a round file to get the pin to go in. The other required purchasing a drill-mounted reamer to widen the misaligned holes and then grinding the pin itself down to get it to fit in. I have not yet reached out to Summit to discuss this quality control issue. Based upon my prior interactions with them, I am very confident they will address it in the future. That is the negative; the positive is that it is a very robust box blade for the price. The geology down here is quite varied. It is not unusual to go from deep, soft sand to a vein of hard pack clay with embedded granite boulders to sand with hard volcanic boulders in less than a few feet. While noisy when it hits them, the box blade and scarifiers take it well.

Landscape Rake
CountyLine 6 ft. LR6CL
215 Lbs, priced around $1000 from Tractor Supply.
I bought this because I could get it fast. I would have bought the Summit instead had I known I would need it. After working on the roads down here a bit, I found that the Box Blade was incessantly pulling up four- to six-inch rocks out of the road beds when hitting the aforementioned rocky spots. I needed something that I could angle a get them off the road en masse. I chose the rake to start with rather than an angled blade because I could use it to clean sand as well. I would have preferred the Summit, if just for the color (the Countyline stuff is an awful color). But it was in stock at a Tractor Supply just across the border in the U.S., and I needed to find a place with hydraulic couplers to connect my grapple. So I took a day to make the 500-mile round trip and pick both up. It is a decent rake, nothing amazing, but it seems robust enough and has worked well. I have bent a couple of tines slightly out of alignment when hitting the aforementioned buried rocks in the road beds here and there, but it's minor.

Quick Hitch
Speeco Quick Hitch—economy
Approximately $150 from Azaga.
Very useful and fast. The one thing I had not anticipated in this tractor purchase is the sloppiness with which implement manufacturers adhere to standards. Every time I bought something new, there was some pin or bushing incompatibility (except for the Summit box Blade, which worked straight away). When the nearest agriculture or tractor supply place is 250 miles away, having to find bushings and pins makes life difficult. Thank goodness for my Baja neighbors from the states who allow me to Amazon things to their houses to bring when they come down.


Trailer mover
Sulythw 3-Point Trailer Hitch Receiver Amazon.com: 3 Point Trailer Hitch Receiver Quick Hitch Compatible Category 1 Tractors, Heavy Duty Tractor Drawbar Hitch Adapter Compatible with BX, Kubota, John Deere, NorTrac, Kioti, Yanmar : Automotive
$106 from Amazon.
I want to see how well I can use the tractor to launch my 12-foot inflatable RHIB and maybe to mount a barbed wire spool for doing fence work, and I like how easily the name rolls off the tongue.
I have not used it yet, and it looks decently made and gusseted, and fits on the Speeco quickhitch. I wanted to try something cheap to see if it's useful for me before investing in a $400+, really nice one. Unfortunately, the tubing is pretty thin. I will work for my inflatable as the boat and trailer are only about 1500 lbs combined, but I don't think I would trust it for anything much larger.

Future needs:
As I mentioned above, I really need a canopy. The straw hat is not hacking it in the Baja sun. I was looking at the Artillian/Curtis canopies, but again, shipping is a killer. I may just go with a cheap Amazon one for the time being.
I am looking at rock buckets—something around 54 inches wide. I am thinking three-inch spacing is probably best, given the rock and gravel size down here. I want one that is under 300 lbs. Again, the Artillian looks like it is well-made, but the price and shipping to the West Coast are too high. I would think that it would benefit them to partner with a few dealers in the rest of the country to overcome the shipping issue, but there are business factors I am sure I do not understand. So far, a 54-inch Virnig priced at $1400 that I can pick up semi-locally seems like the one. There is one made by Redline that is a good deal, but I think that A36 plate is too soft when dealing with rocks. The Virnig is at least A50. If anyone has other suggestions, please let me know.

While this was long, I hope it was not tedious. I went into considerable detail in case it could help give a real sense of this new-ish tractor brand. Overall, the experience has been very good.

I welcome any recommendations for equipment or otherwise, but I will say that I know operating the tractor all the time in flip-flops is probably not the safest, so no need to warn me on that. I think operating it tequila-free is as far as I am willing to go.


-Andrew
 
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Well written, very thorough early review, Andrew.

Your experience with the tractor is similar to mine; true value and performance that has met or exceeded all of my expectations.

Your customer service experience is also perfectly consistent with mine. Summit Tractors is a group of people who care and they deliver on promises made.

On the lack of a dealership network FUD that pops up from time to time, I’d go as far as to suggest Summit Tractors’ model is superior in some ways to a physical dealership model.

Being able to get customer service with a text, email or a phone call has saved me a lot of time running back and forth from a dealership for parts, to say nothing of being obligated to bring the tractor and/or parts in for warranty-related service.

Wishing you continued success and productivity.
 
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@Amfab
Thank you for a detailed thread sharing your experiences with your Summit tractor.
 
   / 40 hour review—long read #6  
Thank you for posting your excellent write-up, that's well detailed and really speaks well of the big little tractor. One thing I enjoyed was, due to your location, you couldn't pick your favorite color or even dealer, you really had to do your homework.

I've got a Kioti grapple, and while I got it because that's what my dealer sold, I've been extremely happy with it as well.
 

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