2022 Outlander Max 6x6

[plastikosmd]

Well we will have to disagree that plowing isn’t hard on equipment.

Ps, good luck with the repair, hopefully the next one holds

I have had warranty repairs denied if occurs during plowing. (I learned quick! “Nope it just broke”)

Dealer install was the only way I could hope to get some things covered, but not always

 

[ArlyA]

Looks like we'll get the beast back from the shop tomorrow.

 

[jjeff]

Interested in what the shop says why it failed?

 

[ArlyA]

Some parts showed up,,,,,,, but not all of them.

 

[ArlyA]

Sorry to say we are still waiting on a few parts. It has snowed here but no significant about.

 

[ArlyA]

Got the machine back and finally into the field today. Heard from the dealership there is a know problem with the strength of this shaft AND there is a aftermarket shaft for it. Will report back on it.

 

[airbiscuit]

looks like you need to keep the deer off your pretty groomed trail.

 

[ArlyA]

Or dogs? I believe the deer moved down to the lake shore.*

* deer move out of high snow area's down to here they can still feed, after its X depth.

 

[Paystar]

Hey ArlyA, that could be the case. My mechanic friend has some highly modified Can Am atv's and he's the head mechanic at the dealer. He was telling me about some splined shafts that are failing because of bad heat treating.
I think it was axle shafts? He had to have a few warrantied.

 

[ArlyA]

Hey ArlyA, that could be the case. My mechanic friend has some highly modified Can Am atv's and he's the head mechanic at the dealer. He was telling me about some splined shafts that are failing because of bad heat treating.
I think it was axle shafts? He had to have a few warrantied.

Seems they're several aftermarket shafts out there and I'm trying to decipher if there are stronger or better. This is the front drive shaft that goes to the differential. Seems all the guys running pods are breaking them.

 

[jjeff]

Or dogs? I believe the deer moved down to the lake shore.*

* deer move out of high snow area's down to here they can still feed, after its X depth.

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Or They like following your well groomed trails cause they don't sink in snow up to there necks lol.

 

[jjeff]

Imo its not good publicity for the can am brand if you need aftermarket parts / modifications on your drive line to prevent future failures. Anyways depending on how much your plowing and grooming with the boss especially using pods have you considered a aftermarket IR temp gauge for your primary clutch and drive belt? I believe another more knowledgeable member mentioned temp gauges for the drive line(primarily the primary clutch and drive belt) in a different thread awhile back. Good to hear the boss or whatever you've named it is back and doing what you bought it for!

 

[ruffdog]

The aftermarket shafts have a much thicker body but have the same splines where your shaft failed. The design of the splines/joint is not that strong because of the lack of contact area. The spherical cut axle spline fits into a pocket with a straight cut spline. It seems like it is a poor-man's CV joint design. I wonder if the added torque of running pods would necessitate a different design for the entire length of axle?

Lost my front drive.

 

[jjeff]

Unfortunately I think the OP has found the weak point of what's going to fail when running pods plowing or grooming with this 6x6. imo apparently there's no give anywhere from the drive belt to the ground especially using tracks.

 

[ruffdog]

videos on those splines:

 

[jjeff]

Interesting Wonder if it pays to thoroughly grease it during installation or add a grease fitting somewhere to be able to grease splines?

 

[ArlyA]

I'd have to guess these couplers were well greased when assembled. Off snow season, we never even run 4wd so I'd guess we have about 10 hours with it in 4wd with pods. A weak setup?

 

[ArlyA]

videos on those splines:

These guys don't seem to be running pods......

 

[jjeff]

I'd have to guess these couplers were well greased when assembled. Off snow season, we never even run 4wd so I'd guess we have about 10 hours with it in 4wd with pods. I weak setup?

Bad design that hasn't been fixed by brp since inception imo.

 

[plastikosmd]

That 1st video was enlightening.
82 hp driving those front pods and big plow, big snow, with that small splined shaft, phew!

It seems to be nearly “shear pin”

It would seem that front tires or ski/skid setup maybe better?