I just bought an Echo 2511t clone for $99. What was I thinking?

[IXLR8]

The final setup

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What size bar is that, it looks big for that little saw.

 

[CloverKnollFarms]

What size bar is that, it looks big for that little saw.

12"

 

[Hockfire Saws]

Can you talk about parts availability for the Joncutter 2511?
Have they been pretty reliable?

As a brand these saws are too new to gage reliability. But since they are mechanically identical to the V-Modest I would call them nearly indestructible. Early on V-Mod had some starters come apart but that’s really the only failure I’ve heard of. Everything else I’ve seen or heard about was human caused, either factory worker or user. I know of 2 flywheels that were installed misaligned with the key. The factory worker torqued them down which fractured the flywheel hub but it didn’t come apart until the saws were used. At that point the hub broke apart and the flywheel freespun on the crank. Important to note, it didn’t escape the starter cover or eject any high speed material. Early on a few saws had leaky fuel lines which turned out to be small cuts from installing the little clamps. I had a couple with a missing screw. A few made it out of the factory without the little rubber grommet on the end of the fuel pump. One had the wires not fully pushed onto the kill switch spades and they came all the way off after a couple tanks. A fellow in Canada had the trigger safety lever spring break. One saw had something wrong with the carb and the owner couldn’t get it to tune. He eventually tracked it down to being dirt in the carb. That’s really all I can think of over the last year & a half aside from the much talked about air filters. Overall these little guys have proven to be rock solid and I can’t think of even one other saw, past or present, that has had as good a record as these have.

 

[mjonesnh]

An issue has cropped up with the saw. Gas tank is empty after setting on shelf a few days. 1st time it happened, saw wouldn't crank, tank and primer bulb empty. Left half a tank in it friday, empty today. Use Red Armour and red oil around plastic at air filter and carb housing and at spark plug cover, run down plastic to bottom of saw. Doesn't seem to be leaking from tank as saw has no red oil at front of saw. Don't understand what would siphon fuel from tank to rear without running.

 

[xyz123]

An issue has cropped up with the saw. Gas tank is empty after setting on shelf a few days. 1st time it happened, saw wouldn't crank, tank and primer bulb empty. Left half a tank in it friday, empty today. Use Red Armour and red oil around plastic at air filter and carb housing and at spark plug cover, run down plastic to bottom of saw. Doesn't seem to be leaking from tank as saw has no red oil at front of saw. Don't understand what would siphon fuel from tank to rear without running.

Check bar oil tank. I have heard of guys that have oem had this happen before. Usually after a drop etc though.

Dump it in something clear.

Have some other ideas if not in there.

 

[mjonesnh]

Check bar oil tank. I have heard of guys that have oem had this happen before. Usually after a drop etc though.

Dump it in something clear.

Have some other ideas if not in there.

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No fuel in oil that I see, bar oil correct level. Would be running out when cap removed as much fuel has disappeared. Grey plastic with decal beside oil adjustment has the red armour colored oil on it some and the 2 fuel lines that show there also have a red film. The plastic plug cover had noticeable oil drops and had run underneath to bottom of rear saw housing. Trying something different, put half a tank in fuel in and laid saw on side with caps in air. Was laying on bottom of case. See no red color on front of saw. Starts at decal and in air filter compartment and down to plug cover

 

[xyz123]

Decal in air filter area?

Pics are worth a 1000 words, show us something please.

Decal in center section. Lift up that piece and look under it.

 

[xyz123]

You will see your fuel lines and tank vent under there.

Here I popped one for ya.

Just follow your lines looking for leak.

 

[mjonesnh]

Decal in center section. Has oily residue starting at rear of decal to where fuel lines are visible. Even if a line is leaking, how can fuel be siphoned out of tank till empty just sitting on shelf not running?

 

[xyz123]

Decal in center section. Has oily residue starting at rear of decal to where fuel lines are visible. Even if a line is leaking, how can fuel be siphoned out of tank till empty just sitting on shelf not running?

I would start at checking or replacing tank vent and go from there. Easy peasy, get into trouble shooting mode.

Your not the first and wont be the last either, it happens oem and afm.


I use those echo style tank vents everywhere I can.

I've seen a fulcrum needle seat let mix by and flood into a cylinder before too. Hydro lock it.

 

[mjonesnh]

Fuel residue in valley of grey plastic where fuel lines meet then rearward where lines go in air box plastic. No fuel residue forward of line coupling going toward tank Fuel lines and vent dry at tank connections. Run saw without cover and did not see any visible leaks in lines. Going to take a break from this now. Saw runs great just looses about an ounce of fuel/day

 

[xyz123]

I'd still be changing tank vent to see if that. Letting pressure build up and push through. Only a few bucks or 10 afm ones for 8.

Also check line fittings undo and back together where seeing leaks.

 

[mjonesnh]

I'd still be changing tank vent to see if that. Letting pressure build up and push through. Only a few bucks or 10 afm ones for 8.

Also check line fittings undo and back together where seeing leaks.

Goingto take your advise and get a vent. Unscrewed fuel cap and left a little jiggly till I can get a vent. That should let pressure release if it is vent. Stored in unvented shed so probably 120 or better inside. Thanks for all your assistance. You have been a great help with far more knowledge than I possess

 

[airbiscuit]

I just put 3 more 2511 Joncutters on pre-order with Scott They will be raffle items at some excellent High School Tech Ed programs.

 

[Hockfire Saws]

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Fuel residue in valley of grey plastic where fuel lines meet then rearward where lines go in air box plastic. No fuel residue forward of line coupling going toward tank Fuel lines and vent dry at tank connections. Run saw without cover and did not see any visible leaks in lines. Going to take a break from this now. Saw runs great just looses about an ounce of fuel/day

Early on there were a few V-Mods that had pin holes in the lines around the area of those tiny clamps, like the worker nicked them or pinched them when putting the clamps on. You can test a little by gently pinching a line shut with needle nose plyers and pumping the bulb. The bulb forces gas into the tank after pulling it through the carb. If you pinch the pressurized return line and get gas at the fitting then you know. Pinch it between the fitting and the tank. For the suction line pinch it off between the fitting and carb. The return line pressurizes the tank which then gets forced up the fuel line and towards the carb. If there is a leak it will show itself. Obviously you need to have fuel in the tank and the cap tight. For a fix you can maybe just lower the clamp a little so the hole is outside the pressure zone. Worst case you can cut just a bit off the line and push it back on the fitting farther.

 

[xyz123]

Early on there were a few V-Mods that had pin holes in the lines around the area of those tiny clamps, like the worker nicked them or pinched them when putting the clamps on. You can test a little by gently pinching a line shut with needle nose plyers and pumping the bulb. The bulb forces gas into the tank after pulling it through the carb. If you pinch the pressurized return line and get gas at the fitting then you know. Pinch it between the fitting and the tank. For the suction line pinch it off between the fitting and carb. The return line pressurizes the tank which then gets forced up the fuel line and towards the carb. If there is a leak it will show itself. Obviously you need to have fuel in the tank and the cap tight. For a fix you can maybe just lower the clamp a little so the hole is outside the pressure zone. Worst case you can cut just a bit off the line and push it back on the fitting farther.

Whats funny that was my VM I popped the center on. Only 1 of their clamp deals out of 3 like he shows on FT one.

It ever gets new echo line wont be any hopefully.

 

[Hockfire Saws]

Hi again! I got tracking numbers that say the next shipment of JonCutter 2511 will be here the 25th! These are the ones that will have the full works and shipping for $99 (plus tax in Ohio ). I have some orders to fill and about a dozen up for grabs.

 

[JeepHead]

Hi again! I got tracking numbers that say the next shipment of JonCutter 2511 will be here the 25th! These are the ones that will have the full works and shipping for $99 (plus tax in Ohio ). I have some orders to fill and about a dozen up for grabs.

Sign me up for one please.

 

[airbiscuit]

Jeephead got me into this mess. I ordered 3 more

 

[Hockfire Saws]

Sign me up for one please.

You got it.