IXLR8
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What size bar is that, it looks big for that little saw.
I just bought an Echo 2511t clone for $99. What was I thinking?
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CloverKnollFarms
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As a brand these saws are too new to gage reliability. But since they are mechanically identical to the V-Modest I would call them nearly indestructible. Early on V-Mod had some starters come apart but that’s really the only failure I’ve heard of. Everything else I’ve seen or heard about was human caused, either factory worker or user. I know of 2 flywheels that were installed misaligned with the key. The factory worker torqued them down which fractured the flywheel hub but it didn’t come apart until the saws were used. At that point the hub broke apart and the flywheel freespun on the crank. Important to note, it didn’t escape the starter cover or eject any high speed material. Early on a few saws had leaky fuel lines which turned out to be small cuts from installing the little clamps. I had a couple with a missing screw. A few made it out of the factory without the little rubber grommet on the end of the fuel pump. One had the wires not fully pushed onto the kill switch spades and they came all the way off after a couple tanks. A fellow in Canada had the trigger safety lever spring break. One saw had something wrong with the carb and the owner couldn’t get it to tune. He eventually tracked it down to being dirt in the carb. That’s really all I can think of over the last year & a half aside from the much talked about air filters. Overall these little guys have proven to be rock solid and I can’t think of even one other saw, past or present, that has had as good a record as these have.
An issue has cropped up with the saw. Gas tank is empty after setting on shelf a few days. 1st time it happened, saw wouldn't crank, tank and primer bulb empty. Left half a tank in it friday, empty today. Use Red Armour and red oil around plastic at air filter and carb housing and at spark plug cover, run down plastic to bottom of saw. Doesn't seem to be leaking from tank as saw has no red oil at front of saw. Don't understand what would siphon fuel from tank to rear without running.
Check bar oil tank. I have heard of guys that have oem had this happen before. Usually after a drop etc though.
Dump it in something clear.
Have some other ideas if not in there.
No fuel in oil that I see, bar oil correct level. Would be running out when cap removed as much fuel has disappeared. Grey plastic with decal beside oil adjustment has the red armour colored oil on it some and the 2 fuel lines that show there also have a red film. The plastic plug cover had noticeable oil drops and had run underneath to bottom of rear saw housing. Trying something different, put half a tank in fuel in and laid saw on side with caps in air. Was laying on bottom of case. See no red color on front of saw. Starts at decal and in air filter compartment and down to plug cover
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Decal in center section. Has oily residue starting at rear of decal to where fuel lines are visible. Even if a line is leaking, how can fuel be siphoned out of tank till empty just sitting on shelf not running?
I would start at checking or replacing tank vent and go from there. Easy peasy, get into trouble shooting mode.
Your not the first and wont be the last either, it happens oem and afm.
I use those echo style tank vents everywhere I can.
I've seen a fulcrum needle seat let mix by and flood into a cylinder before too. Hydro lock it.
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