Making gas cans great again

[CH4Ohio]

As I was pouring my coffee this morning, it occurred to me that the same engineers responsible for these gas cans must design coffee-maker carafes -- they all leak too.

 

[mrmikey]

...... it occurred to me that the same engineers responsible for these gas cans must design coffee-maker carafes -- they all leak too.

LOL.
I recently went for the ridiculous expensive pods to a coffee maker and was thinking the same thing as it dripped over the counter as I was pouring. I have found if you pour slow it won't drip but usually forget.

 

[boatmoter]

I was so tired of the plastic nuts holding the spouts on cracking and leaking and the BS slow flow. I bought cap plugs to replace the spouts and a electric battery powered pump that you lower into the neck of the cans and pump it into my generator, and riding mowers. I use a large funnel for my diesel tractor. the only great cans that are still made are the Jerry cans and their expensive

 

[Oaktree]

I've not seen one of those "push-in vents" that come with the new nozzles that didn't leak. And half the time the threads on the replacement nozzle don't match my gas cans.

Any "leakage" around those vents at least in my case is a poorly-chosen place to put it. Little flap that holds the cap usually breaks after a dozen or so uses though.
Have they changed the threads on cans recently? Any of mine date back to the 00s or earlier, and the aftermarket spouts work just fine.

 

[350c]

The fix:

https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/ez-pour-hi-flo-replacement-spout-1053258

On my 5-gallon can, I drilled a small hole at the location where they show the push-in cap, then put a screw in it--loosen or remove the screw to pour. Cheap and no leaks. (American-made screw, by the way! Unlike all the replacement nozzles from you know where!)

 

[Oaktree]

Off road 2.99 here.
OTR 3.59

That's odd, I've always found Pa. to have rather high fuel prices. Off road is probably 50¢ more here. Don't have any need for OTR so haven't paid attention to its price.

HUH; 10 states are SOL.

Weird. I live in N.H., the "live free or die" state where we don't normally go for this BS but we're on the "not for sale" list, while our neighbor to the west, Vt. which usually DOES jump on any environmental bandwagon is OK with selling them.

 

[Glassback]

So wait. They are only directing the manufacturers to specifically add vents again. So potentially increasing cost a little bit. And you still must have the spring loaded nozzle? ugh

Yeah, looks like the EPA rules didn’t change—manufacturers just thought they had to remove the separate vent. The letter the EPA sent to manufacturers says separate vents have always been allowed, as long as they’re self-closing. Same goes for the spout. Hopefully someone makes a version that actually works well.

Until then, I’ve been using a siphon. When my tractor gauge hits half, I know a full jug will fit. I set the jug on the tractor, start the siphon, and let it fill without having to hold it up. Not perfect for everything, but it works for that situation. I use this siphon.

 

[Grumpycat]

On my 5-gallon can, I drilled a small hole at the location where they show the push-in cap, then put a screw in it--loosen or remove the screw to pour. Cheap and not leaks.

Plastic vent caps are readily available on Amazon to install a traditional vent. No screw to lose.

 

[Hay Dude]

That's odd,

What’s odd? You mean $3.59? That’s the best price I found last week. Most filling stops are $3.79. We have a lot of horrible roads in PA to “maintain” (although I see almost zero improvements anywhere). However I DO see lots of bicycle paths & bike signage being installed alongside out poorly drained, tree-overgrown, pothole infested roads.

I've always found Pa. to have rather high fuel prices.

You would be correct. PA has one of the highest fuel taxes in the country.

Off road is probably 50¢ more here.

It’s like that almost everywhere. Remove the fuel tax and magically, the fuel price drops. Funny how that works, huh?

Don't have any need for OTR so haven't paid attention to its price.

I’d call yourself lucky. If you own diesel trucks like I do, you’d be experiencing the joy of being taxed to death for the “pleasure” of operating heavy trucks.

Taxes suck.

 

[wthforever]

As I interpret the release, they are only saying manufacturers can add a vent, but the spring loaded shut off funnel mess is still there?

With the current administration, I don't think they would be making things harder. We will see, but I am certain the end result will be to get rid of the crappy designs we have now.

 

[LPowell1]

Just take off the spout and use a funnel. If you want a vent, drill a small hole (1/8 in) and plug with nail or stick.

 

[Shenandoah MF1760]

The fix:

https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/ez-pour-hi-flo-replacement-spout-1053258

These are good, if you can't grab a used 5 gallon DEF nozzle left by the trash.

Problem is you still need a vent.

I've used this on more than a couple of cans.

Amazon.com

 

[NUTTERDW]

Completely agree. Spilling gas is FAR worse than letting a pittance of it evaporate out of the nozzle over time.

Yes in agree! I have used both types of cans and I spilled more with the vent free cans than I ever had with the original cans., I threw the new cans in the trash. With all of the new plastic fuel tanks on mowers and four wheelers that are not strong enough to with stand the pressure mod the new cans it is just plain stupid to mandate them. Im with you I will be using my original cans.

 

[1Mech]

I remember many years ago, when I was a wee little lad in Minnesota, we used a small one gallon metal gas can to fill the lawn mower. I guess it sealed up pretty good, because one day, I went to fill the mower and it was crushed from the outside in, like an aluminum beer can. I guess the last time I used it was a hot day, and I emptied it, then, after replacing the cap and vent cover must have cooled down substantially to reduce the air pressure in the can and the outside pressure crushed it. I used to be able to take that can, on my bike, to the corner gas station and fill it up for 25 cents!

 

[Runner]

These are good, if you can't grab a used 5 gallon DEF nozzle left by the trash.

Problem is you still need a vent.

I've used this on more than a couple of cans.

Amazon.com

So ironic that a powerhouse communist manufacturing country has to make and sell products to the US to help us bypass our government overreach....

 

[ljgordon]

I drill a hole in the top back of the handle and put a screw in it. If I need to slow down the flow, I can put my hand or thumb over the hole.

 

[lschaudies]

The environmental fix is one of the most lame things the gubberment has ever done. Only They could take a good idea, let's reduce the fumes, and create a solution that is worse than the problem. Reminds me of the covid solution.

 

[MT Kioti]

Now the question is, will the prices for a 5-gallon plastic can drop from $32 back to $12 like they once were.


NOT.

Not a chance. Everything is 20% to 30% higher than it was six months ago. Even here in Montana, plumbers are charging $425 an hour! That's $100 PER HOUR more than last year. Want more shocking news? Wait until you see how much your house insurance went up.

 

[MT Kioti]

Thank you for your attention to this matter!

Make Gas Cans Great Again by Improving Flow | US EPA

Today, U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) issued letters to portable fuel container (PFC or gas can) manufacturers encouraging them to add vents to gas cans to ensure safe and effective refueling.

www.epa.gov

And I thought that my gas can just had the same prostate problems that I do!

 

[Will Corsair]

Thank you for your attention to this matter!

Make Gas Cans Great Again by Improving Flow | US EPA

Today, U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) issued letters to portable fuel container (PFC or gas can) manufacturers encouraging them to add vents to gas cans to ensure safe and effective refueling.

www.epa.gov

Instead of whining about government and buying new nozzles, I put vents in all my unvented cans.

Drill a 1/2" hole and install a tire valve. Amazon.com

Remove the Schrader valve, run a 12-14" piece of baling wire through, and make a hook at the end. Make a slight bow in the entire length of wire. Remove the nozzle and run the wire through the opening and carefully pull the valve stem up through the drilled hole until it's seated.

They don't leak but, if you're a belt-and-suspenders guy, you could put some sealant at the base of the stem where it contacts the can.

Quick and cheap. The can in the foreground, like many cans, has a flat spot tailor-made for a vent, where the manufacturer used old molds with vents.