RANT New "safety" gas cans?

[oosik]

That's good to hear Moss. 40 plus years out here and NEVER had water or crud in either fuel - gas/diesel. I'm just super careful with fuel storage - borderline ****. There is just no question about my use of the Jerry cans - soon I WILL have to get help in filling the tractor. Small electric fuel pump.

Filling the M6040 is not just a simple matter of lifting full cans of fuel. Lift - then lean forward to get the nozzle into the tractor fill pipe. Further complicated because I always have some implement on the 3-point.

Probably a good idea to find some type of small pump now. Before I drop a full can and some body part get hurt/injured.

 

[MossRoad]

This is the one I have. It almost pumps too fast for small things like lawnmower, log splitter. But my machine has a 5 gallon tank that I never take past 4 gallons. It'll pump 4 gallons in around 3 minutes. Takes D cell batteries.

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[mapper]

I try to keep my diesel cans full, when the tractor needs fuel I empty a full can into it. My gas cans are a little different, nothing I have can take a full five gallon can in one shot, I keep them full over winter for emergency purposes, I treat each one with stabil.
Rented a medium small track hoe a couple of years ago, guy dropped it off with a full tank and a full 5 gal fuel can. Condition was fill the hoe from the can when I was done and top up the can. Wanted to use his fuel can so no contaminated fuel would get into his machine. I emptied his container into the hoe, then I noticed the mess in the bottom of his container! I told him about it, he was a bit surprised and embarrassed.

 

[Bearsixty7]

these things ??

I have a couple 5 gal diesel fuel jugs like that, they work much better once I ripped the red part off of them. Still flow very slowly though.

 

[Larry Caldwell]

I buy this style gas/diesel can. The nozzle has a good cap, and the button releases gas when and how you want it. The short nozzle means you probably need a funnel to fill your car, but it works great with a tractor or riding mower.

 

[Cougsfan]

I have 2 ea WWII surplus Jerry cans I inherited from my Dad that still work great for storage, but like Oosik, have difficulties getting the diesel out of them into the tractor. I used to have flexible spouts but they developed pretty severe leaks I have never seen replacements available. I had a battery operated pump similar to what Moss presented but it was cheap and flimsy and the battery was seemingly dead whenever I wanted to use it. Now the Jerry cans are a backup as a siphon hose is the only way to get fuel out without difficulty

 

[Larry Caldwell]

For the tractor diesel I use a large funnel with a tight brass screen. I can just pour out of the can with no nozzle at all, and the screen catches a surprising amount of crud.

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[ArlyA]

I buy this style gas/diesel can. The nozzle has a good cap, and the button releases gas when and how you want it. The short nozzle means you probably need a funnel to fill your car, but it works great with a tractor or riding mower.

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We use these for 2 stroke fuel but what you must be carful and what I don't like about them, is they can't vent any presure if they are allowed to warm. They will blow up. The steel eagle can lids are spring held down and will vent if pressurized.

 

[RoyJackson]

We use these for 2 stroke fuel but what you must be carful and what I don't like about them, is they can't vent any pressure if they are allowed to warm. They will blow up. The steel eagle can lids are spring held down and will vent if pressurized.

I have 4 of these...2 for gas (a 5 gallon and a 2.5 gallon), and 2 5 gallons for diesel.
If I see them starting to bloat, I just hit the pour button to vent
FYI, I don't leave any of the cans outside or in direct sunlight

 

[civilian]

I have 4 of these...2 for gas (a 5 gallon and a 2.5 gallon), and 2 5 gallons for diesel.
If I see them starting to bloat, I just hit the pour button to vent
FYI, I don't leave any of the cans outside or in direct sunlight

I do not like to store diesel and gas inside my buildings. So they stay outside in a hutch, off the ground. But critters chewed the vents off them. Still using whatever old plastic fuel cans I had before this new style safety cans. Both my Kubota B26TLB and dad's JD1070 are a pain to lift the cans to shoulder height to fuel. His I can stand on rear 3 pt to fuel, mine I have to use a stepladder against loader arms. Not pretty either way. Jon

 

[ArlyA]

To reiterate what steel cans, like the Eagle ones we use can and cannot do. The Eagle Justrite cans we have are type I (Made from high-grade coated steel, each can is tested to guarantee 100% leakproof construction. The tough powder-coat finish resists chemicals and stands up to demands of rigorous use. Each Justrite safety can is equipped with a stainless steel flame arrester which dissipates heat to stop flashback ignition)

They cost more than the plastic ones, but mice can't chew through them.
Are leak-proof but will still vent if pressurized.
The handle is connected to the valve and will dump fuel out reasonable well. Ours have the flexible 7/8 steel hose.
Are pretty darn tough and have held up to rolling around in our truck and atv box...
Yes they cost lots more but they last, are easy to use and don't leak.

 

[Larry Caldwell]

I do not like to store diesel and gas inside my buildings. So they stay outside in a hutch, off the ground. But critters chewed the vents off them. Still using whatever old plastic fuel cans I had before this new style safety cans. Both my Kubota B26TLB and dad's JD1070 are a pain to lift the cans to shoulder height to fuel. His I can stand on rear 3 pt to fuel, mine I have to use a stepladder against loader arms. Not pretty either way. Jon

Storage is a concern. My woodshed is my flammable storage area. It's 50 feet from the house, and is where the solvents and fuels live. I should do a better job of rattle can storage, since they use propane propellant nowadays.

 

[Larry Caldwell]

To reiterate what steel cans, like the Eagle ones we use can and cannot do. The Eagle Justrite cans we have are type I (Made from high-grade coated steel, each can is tested to guarantee 100% leakproof construction. The tough powder-coat finish resists chemicals and stands up to demands of rigorous use. Each Justrite safety can is equipped with a stainless steel flame arrester which dissipates heat to stop flashback ignition)

They cost more than the plastic ones, but mice can't chew through them.
Are leak-proof but will still vent if pressurized.
The handle is connected to the valve and will dump fuel out reasonable well. Ours have the flexible 7/8 steel hose.
Are pretty darn tough and have held up to rolling around in our truck and atv box...
Yes they cost lots more but they last, are easy to use and don't leak.

I'm still using a couple of steel jerry cans I bought in 1974. The plastic spouts are getting pretty ratty and the fitting is nonstandard, so I may have to fab up an adapter. The bottoms got a little rusty so I buffed them and did a coat of rattle can primer that has held up for the last 20 years.

 

[Jstpssng]

I bought 2 new Gerry cans back in the mid-80s but after using them for a while they set in my shed for a couple of years, when I went to use them again they were rusty. More recently I bought another, old army surplus at a yard sale; when I got it home, once again it was rusty. That must be why it was only $3.

 

[ponytug]

I bought 2 new Gerry cans back in the mid-80s but after using them for a while they set in my shed for a couple of years, when I went to use them again they were rusty. More recently I bought another, old army surplus at a yard sale; when I got it home, once again it was rusty. That must be why it was only $3.

You probably know this, but if they aren't rusted through, they can be cleaned up pretty easily if you want by using sand and/or steel shot on the inside, rinse it out, and then use POR-15 to coat the inside to seal it. (I'm not suggesting that it is worth it, just if you wanted to...)

All the best,

Peter

 

[rontaki]

I, too,really like the No-Spill cans. It's nice to be able to tilt the spout all the way down into the tank before opening the valve on the can.
However, while using a pull-behind mower with my ATV, one of these cans jumped out of the bed and went under the mower. Expensive red confetti! Sadly, no pyrotechnic display to amuse me in my moment of dismay.