RANT New "safety" gas cans?

[jyoutz]

After I guess about 10 years, wife "convinced" me that I needed another 5 gallon gas can.

Other weekend picked one up at a auto parts store since I was there.

I picked up the Midwest Can "double protection layer, flame mitigation device with vapor locking spout".

It also has a built in strainer!

I had to ask the guy at the counter to show me how to work it and even he had to do a double take It's a fricking gas can!

Rant off.

I hate those new spouts. Fortunately the old style spouts are the same size and thread.

 

[Rockbadchild]

these things ??

 

[Dftodd]

It's to protect the environment. Those vented cans were letting gas fumes escape into the atmosphere.
Now they are trapped in the can, until you open it... or it explodes in the heat.
Designed by somebody who almost flunked out of engineering school, but the "Ventless gas can" was his road to Fame.
Or infamy.

I use a siphon hose for me tractor, placing the can in my bucket and raising it above the tank. If you usse the nozzle and invert the can so that it's at an angle though, the fuel does seem to flow better.

Or splits the seem. Had a decent can with a no spill lid that actually made sense.

Noticed the last time I filled it up at the store, it was wet all over on top after traveling home. That's when I noticed it split on top on the molding line

Figured oh well, I'll switch the cap to the other can...... nope.... they have changed the thread and pitch since favorite can was produced.

 

[JasperFrank]

Got a Midwest can, with all the safety features, a few years ago. I profoundly regret ever buying this thing. I now look in on Yard Sales for older style cans.

 

[Rockbadchild]

It's to protect the environment. Those vented cans were letting gas fumes escape into the atmosphere.
Now they are trapped in the can, until you open it... or it explodes in the heat.
Designed by somebody who almost flunked out of engineering school, but the "Ventless gas can" was his road to Fame.
Or infamy.

“to protect the environment” if that’s true it’s nonsense… i am not saying that’s your opinion or you came up with this or anything but give me a break the fumes gets in the at atmosphere regardless when filling or poring it and once seal it’s seal it’s seal regardless of the style, plus once in a while you have to release the pressure due to temperature changes which release the fumes … i don’t buy that this makes a impact on the environment.

 

[Jstpssng]

“to protect the environment” if that’s true it’s nonsense… i am not saying that’s your opinion or you came up with this or anything but give me a break the fumes gets in the at atmosphere regardless when filling or poring it and once seal it’s seal it’s seal regardless of the style, plus once in a while you have to release the pressure due to temperature changes which release the fumes … i don’t buy that this makes a impact on the environment.

Did you read my post, or just one part of it?

 

[Rockbadchild]

Did you read my post, or just one part of it?

is that really what they advertised it as is my question ?

 

[Jstpssng]

is that really what they advertised it as is my question ?

OK, then the answer is yes. It also has the advantage of turning a ten dollar can into a ten dollar can with a twenty dollar attachment on top, which leaks when you use it and needs to be replaced sooner. To say nothing about how the marvelous environmentally friendly ethanol gas rots it out,,,

 

[Rockbadchild]

OK, then the answer is yes. It also has the advantage of turning a ten dollar can into a ten dollar can with a twenty dollar attachment on top, which leaks when you use it and needs to be replaced sooner. To say nothing about how the marvelous environmentally friendly ethanol gas rots it out,,,

brutal… I should’ve know i guess something that makes so much sense (sarcasm) as to be true… glad it hasn’t made its way here yet, question of time i assume.

 

[ponytug]

How are the vented fumes captured at gas stations? On my gas cans, minus the diesel can, I put a balled up plastic bag to keep dirt out, so I guess the fumes stay in as well. To me, a stopper of some sort would have been a better idea than those new style spouts.

Typically, there is a small propane like tank filled with activated charcoal that absorbs the fumes, typically located towards the road.

I use the lid locking NATO style Jerry cans. No water in the fuel, no leakage, no collapsing cans, and as far as I can tell, gas can be stored longer. Not cheap though.

All the best,

Peter

 

[mapper]

Have to laugh, thought the same thing.

Still haven't filled her up yet, I'm afraid to

Lucky I have enough spares of the "old style".

Wait until you try to get fuel into the can with that strainer in place. Got one like that, it was impossible to fill, the strainer was not ment to be removed. It works great now, strainer surgically removed, and vent installed.

 

[mapper]

Got to love those "safety spouts " with the little hook on the bottom that allows the spout to open when it's pushed down, then it buckles under the weight of the full can....

 

[bcp]

I suspect no officials of the can companies use their cans on a regular basis, if ever..

Bruce

 

[ponytug]

100% agree.

 

[jaxs]

I've said it a hunred times and will say it again. 90% of problems in the world can be traced to overpopulation or lawyers. Were it not for lawyers,gas cans would look the same today as 50 years ago. Someone mentioned Blitz above. They were bankrupted by an idiot that splashed gas from a Blitz can onto a bonfire and his lawyer. He didn't splash gas on his lawyer, just the fire.

 

[Alan W.]

Pulled the springs out of my politically correct cans. I can now slide the mechanism closed or open with my hand and it stays there no pressure required.
I then violated them by placing a metal tire valve in them for a vent.
All is good now.

 

[PILOON]

Then my car has a safety cap to prevent venting fumes.
Dang cap sent a code and replacement was $80.+.
Well I vent more fumes when I do a fill up at the pump.
So guess what? I replaced with regular cap and covered the warning light with black tape.
Car does not care.

 

[Richard]

I need to go get a picture as I can't find them anywhere online.

My local co-op has some yellow plastic cans. The mouth for them is maybe 3-3 1/2" diameter. Straight hose on top. VERY VERY VERY easy to fill and to empty, just open the vent and let it rip.

I have to hoist my cans atop my tractor which means I have to lift them to the operators platform, then hoist them to the hood (might be five feet off the ground?? It's an International 1066)

Anyway, then I tilt, then lay them down then hold upside down as their weight goes down.

I've never seen them but I LOVE the big mouth on them. Down side, I've kinked the hose so went to a hose supply and replaced with longer hose so I have more lay-down options.

I'll attempt to get a picture between work.

I think they were about $35 each which I think is over kill BUT, I don't have any of the issues the other cans have.

 

[MossRoad]

I suspect no officials of the can companies use their cans on a regular basis, if ever..

Bruce

I can think back many times in my life, while using something that was not working the way I'd want it to work, and where I've said to myself "I'll bet these guys never use their own product."

It's universal!

 

[MossRoad]

I've said it a hunred times and will say it again. 90% of problems in the world can be traced to overpopulation or lawyers. Were it not for lawyers,gas cans would look the same today as 50 years ago. Someone mentioned Blitz above. They were bankrupted by an idiot that splashed gas from a Blitz can onto a bonfire and his lawyer. He didn't splash gas on his lawyer, just the fire.

It ended up being dozens of cases, not just that initial one. The premise was that it happened so often that they should have put a flame arrester in the spout, but didn't.