Trailer shaking at 60MPH

[aczlan]

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And I think I found the problem. Lol.

That would do it.

Aaron Z

 

[FTG-05]

Have them balanced, then add 4-6 oz of antifreeze per tire.

Good luck.

 

[airbiscuit]

What does the antifreeze do? Centrifugally balance?

 

[Skeans1]

 

[fried1765]

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That "light" means.......over temp!
Slow down, or something bad will happen!

 

[Hay Dude]

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Huh,,,, I didn’t know they were offering “ light effects “ kits for trailer wheels now :laughing:

 

[Complete Turf Care]

This is on a delta goosekneck flat bed. It has single wheels with two axles. I had a blow out last summer with about 10,000lbs on the trailer. Replaced the tire and after that the trailer wants to shake, enough to rattle the dash in the truck. Its fine until it gets up to around 60MPH. I did replace the other tire on the same axle which didn't help and I haven't touched the tires on the back axle. It doesn't seem nearly as bad when the trailer is loaded.

Would this be a problem with the first new tire I bought??

Do I need to replace the two tires on the back axle? They are the original tires on the trailer when it was new in 2009.

I guess my next step is to take that one tire back off and take it up to the shop and see if its really out of balance. I just didn't think a tire out of balance would cause that much shaking.

I had a similar issue on a 20' heavy duty bumper pull trailer. The dealer and I fought it for 2.5 years. We changed, rotated, and balanced tires several times and none of that solved the problem.

I was ready to trade the trailer, when my dealer called the factory to see if they could help. It turns out the bolt that the spring is supposed to rest on had been tightened too much and the spring could not rest on the bolt. After we opened up the shackle and allowed the spring to rest on the bolt, the bouncing went away.

In this picture taken before we opened up the shackle, you can see at the red arrow that the shackle is squeezed just a little and did not allow the spring to rest on the bolt.

 

[FTG-05]

What does the antifreeze do? Centrifugally balance?

Dynamic balancers.

 

[nisaacs]

Have them balanced, then add 4-6 oz of antifreeze per tire.

Good luck.

I would think that would be messy to repair and hard on tire gauges.

 

[fried1765]

I had a similar issue on a 20' heavy duty bumper pull trailer. The dealer and I fought it for 2.5 years. We changed, rotated, and balanced tires several times and none of that solved the problem.

I was ready to trade the trailer, when my dealer called the factory to see if they could help. It turns out the bolt that the spring is supposed to rest on had been tightened too much and the spring could not rest on the bolt. After we opened up the shackle and allowed the spring to rest on the bolt, the bouncing went away.

In this picture taken before we opened up the shackle, you can see at the red arrow that the shackle is squeezed just a little and did not allow the spring to rest on the bolt.

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Very interesting!

 

[Reb954]

I had a similar issue on a 20' heavy duty bumper pull trailer. The dealer and I fought it for 2.5 years. We changed, rotated, and balanced tires several times and none of that solved the problem.

I was ready to trade the trailer, when my dealer called the factory to see if they could help. It turns out the bolt that the spring is supposed to rest on had been tightened too much and the spring could not rest on the bolt. After we opened up the shackle and allowed the spring to rest on the bolt, the bouncing went away.

In this picture taken before we opened up the shackle, you can see at the red arrow that the shackle is squeezed just a little and did not allow the spring to rest on the bolt.

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I'm trying to reason out what you are saying but I'm not having much luck at it. The bolts only purpose is to keep the spring from coming out of the shackle, not to hold up the spring. Maybe the bolt was tight enough to squeeze the shackle into the sides of the spring?

I'm sure I am missing something.

 

[Complete Turf Care]

I'm trying to reason out what you are saying but I'm not having much luck at it. The bolts only purpose is to keep the spring from coming out of the shackle, not to hold up the spring. Maybe the bolt was tight enough to squeeze the shackle into the sides of the spring?

I'm sure I am missing something.

I don't fully understand it either. The 'shackle' that the bolt runs through at the red arrow in the picture, had been tightened too much and it had squeezed the 'shackle' which did not allow the spring to function properly.

When we opened up the 'shackle' the bounce went away.

 

[Hay Dude]

So the spring would come up (like under weight compression) and would not freely release back down because shackle squeezes too much. Restricted movement.

 

[aczlan]

I would think that would be messy to repair and hard on tire gauges.

No, that would make a patch about half the size of a dollar bill on the bottom of the tire.
Shouldn't get into a gauge unless you try to get it in.

Aaron Z

 

[FTG-05]

I would think that would be messy to repair and hard on tire gauges.

Why would 4-6 oz be messy? How would the AF get to the tire gauge? Are you sure you're thinking this through?

 

[coobie]

Have 'em all balanced, at a reputable tire shop!

This^^^ had my tires balanced on my 20 ft.Pj trailer world of difference in how it pulls down the road.

 

[nisaacs]

Why would 4-6 oz be messy? How would the AF get to the tire gauge? Are you sure you're thinking this through?

Maybe I am over thinking? Antifreeze is nasty, doesn't dry or evaporate. It will coat the tire, wheel and valve stem. Anytime you check the air, I would think a spec of antifreeze would get in the gauge. You would also need to wash the tire and dry it, for a patch to stick.

 

[Hay Dude]

I think I will balance all my tires at next state inspection.

 

[Reb954]

I don't fully understand it either. The 'shackle' that the bolt runs through at the red arrow in the picture, had been tightened too much and it had squeezed the 'shackle' which did not allow the spring to function properly.

When we opened up the 'shackle' the bounce went away.

The best reasoning I can come up with is when running over a bump the spring would move down within the shackle then wedge in the lower position. That would cause the axle to be low on one side so it wouldn't track right. Future bumps or a load would free up the spring.

Maybe, maybe not.

 

[fried1765]

I think I will balance all my tires at next state inspection.

Good thing!
Hauling a tall stack of old grass clippings around calls for a smooth running trailer!