120-Volt Mig welder.

[/pine]

Sure, we all have one. If Sodo is willing, he is more than welcome to bring his welder over so we can do some testing together:cool2:. He is only an hour from me.
I'm sure this welder is at the bottom of the pecking order. I'd really like to try a top of the line 120-volt Mig welder.

When it comes to 120V welders you remind me of the black knight in Monty Python's ' The Search for the Holy Grail'...

 

[downsizingnow48]

I hope sodo and shield can join up on this.

 

[Shield Arc]

When it comes to 120V welders you remind me of the black knight in Monty Python's ' The Search for the Holy Grail'...

:confused3::confused3::confused3::confused3::confused3:

I hope sodo and shield can join up on this.

Me too!

 

[/pine]

:confused3: etc...

Be sure to watch the entire video clip...!

 

[dragoneggs]

Okay SA, you got me going so I decided to go out in the shop and weld up a 1/8in piece of scrap using my Miller 211 on 110v. It's 90deg plus in my garage but I couldn't stand the local news anymore tonight anyways.

One side weld was set on Auto feed for 1/8in .030wire. The other side was done off the Miller chart inside the case... manual setting is 6/60 on the volt scale and wire feed (whatever that means?). Which weld do you 'like' better? Can you tell any difference? One better than the other? Voltage setting was about 10% higher on one side. Wire feed I have no clue since auto feed setting doesn't tell you what the rate is so no idea. I also have no idea whether this post has any value at all... but it sure felt good to weld than whine.

 

[dragoneggs]

:confused3: etc...

Be sure to watch the entire video clip...!

A classic! Gets better every time I have seen it, and I wouldn't mention how many times I have seen it!

 

[Arc weld]

Okay SA, you got me going so I decided to go out in the shop and weld up a 1/8in piece of scrap using my Miller 211 on 110v. It's 90deg plus in my garage but I couldn't stand the local news anymore tonight anyways.

One side weld was set on Auto feed for 1/8in .030wire. The other side was done off the Miller chart inside the case... manual setting is 6/60 on the volt scale and wire feed (whatever that means?). Which weld do you 'like' better? Can you tell any difference? One better than the other? Voltage setting was about 10% higher on one side. Wire feed I have no clue since auto feed setting doesn't tell you what the rate is so no idea. I also have no idea whether this post has any value at all... but it sure felt good to weld than whine.

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They're both decent welds. Maybe a little slow on travel speed. Typically more volts gives you a wider flatter bead. I'd guess the second weld had the higher volt setting because it's a little flatter profile.

 

[dragoneggs]

They're both decent welds. Maybe a little slow on travel speed. Typically more volts gives you a wider flatter bead. I'd guess the second weld had the higher volt setting because it's a little flatter profile.

Hey Arc, I will take 'decent' as a compliment... I am still and probably always will be a 'hack'. Actually the second pic was a bit lower volt setting (manual setting) but like I said, I don't know what the wire speed was on the first one, so the second pic could have been at a slower wire speed (making it hotter, right?) hence flatter? I think my travel speed was about the same for both. Curious though... I thought my travel speed was good (totally based on looks) but could you tell me why you think 'a little slow'?

 

[newbury]

Wow
Nothing bad prior to 3:37 then pruned at 4:52. Must have missed something in that hour and fifteen minutes

Sort of like missing a bar fight.

 

[Sodo]

Wow
Nothing bad prior to 3:37 then pruned at 4:52. Must have missed something in that hour and fifteen minutes

Dang I missed it too.

opcorntub:

I'm outta town until September though, can't do much until then. Curious How a "Lincoln 100" specs compare to a "Miller 135" specs.

 

[Shield Arc]

dragon I agree with Arc weld. The picture on the left looks like slow travel speed. Or like we talked about when you were here. Too much wire in the puddle. Even tho more wire means more amps, you have to have more volts to wet it out. I forget, are you right or left handed? If right handed try starting on your right side moving to the left, pushing the puddle.

I can tell you right now your 211 will weld circles around this little Lincoln of my brother-n-laws.
As you can see by all the over spray on it, he is a retired body & fender man who does a little work in his garage. He took this little Lincoln as partial payment for a job. I think he might have got stuck!:laughing:

 

[vulcancowboy]

Just lurking....

 

[ThomasH]

dragon I agree with Arc weld. The picture on the left looks like slow travel speed. Or like we talked about when you were here. Too much wire in the puddle. Even tho more wire means more amps, you have to have more volts to wet it out. I forget, are you right or left handed? If right handed try starting on your right side moving to the left, pushing the puddle.

I can tell you right now your 211 will weld circles around this little Lincoln of my brother-n-laws.
As you can see by all the over spray on it, he is a retired body & fender man who does a little work in his garage. He took this little Lincoln as partial payment for a job. I think he might have got stuck!:laughing:

Well, I just don't know how to tell you how disappointed I am. I thought you had finally realized the error of your ways, and stepped up to a 120v mig unit. What can we do with you, after all of the helpful dialog about using 120v mig units, and you still are just stuck on "getting the puddle right"...

 

[skylarkguy]

I look forward to the face and root bend tests. The hammer blows thing is a bit too variable for me...(who is swinging what hammer changes things a lot).

Also it has been stated in other threads that to "push" the capabilities of a particular welding machine you consider the material prep and fit in the process. I would like to see that too.

Who has what particular ax to grind isn't interesting to me at all, I am interested in gleaning useful information. Weld on!

 

[Sodo]

Just curious...how many didn't see this coming???

Failing the 120v MIG is the first step, but not the last step. Using a 211 can come later, I'm interested in what this little Lincoln can do.

120v guys need to know what problems to watch for and how to solve them. You don't see any of these problems when nothing breaks, so it's pretty useful when someone who knows more ways to fail a machine than the rest of us know to succeed, will weld in a "fault" ----> and show it. It's pretty easy to add a brace, or weld both sides, and never have such a problem, but this is test-plate country, not a project; you're looking for faults.

I'm all for this.:drink:

 

[downsizingnow48]

Agree -- the main question is, how does a pro get the most out of a 110v machine. With testing to see what works best. This can be very useful.

 

[Shield Arc]

Well I stand corrected!
Even tho this is only 3/16-inch material, with 37 1/2-degree bevel. I'm sure it's pushing the limits of this machine. I don't have any 1/4, or 3/8-inch material. Next few days I'll go to town and pick some up.
I sure wouldn't want to do very much of this, slower than the second coming of Christ:shocked:! I almost fell asleep a couple times:laughing:. These coupons look very good to me:cool2:!

 

[Shield Arc]

I forgot to add this picture!

 

[Happy Gilmore]

Shield, push that little bugger and see what you can do with it. I think it's really cool to see what you can do with it.

 

[Sodo]

Shield, push that little bugger and see what you can do with it. I think it's really cool to see what you can do with it.

I'm looking forward to the "pretend you're on a desert island with only 120v and to get off the island I had to weld 1/4 inch"

What would the newbie do?
How would the pro do it?

Everybody can learn from this even those with 220v. And even the hobby/maintenance guy who "gets by OK".
:drink: