Trailer with small diesel driving multiple things and a PTO

[del10820]

The truck engine has an over speed governor, to keep the driver putting the engine over the set RPM. And they are noted for not working properly. He needs a governor that will hold a set RPM with or with out load on the unit. The ones I was referring to are belt driven, and had a separate throttle plate Hoof I think was one of the brands of governors.

del10820

 

[Jason14j]

The truck engine has an over speed governor, to keep the driver putting the engine over the set RPM. And they are noted for not working properly. He needs a governor that will hold a set RPM with or with out load on the unit. The ones I was referring to are belt driven, and had a separate throttle plate Hoof I think was one of the brands of governors.

del10820

Thanks, I will check out Hoof and research belt driven governors.

 

[deereman75]

The truck engine has an over speed governor, to keep the driver putting the engine over the set RPM. And they are noted for not working properly. He needs a governor that will hold a set RPM with or with out load on the unit. The ones I was referring to are belt driven, and had a separate throttle plate Hoof I think was one of the brands of governors.

del10820

Ahh ok. What about finding the top speed of the engine, and setting up a reduction drive to go from the top speed to the required speed, and just letting the engine run at its max speed.

 

[Short Game]

Yeah, just put a brick on the pedal, eh Guvnor?

Did Red Green ever build this mobile shop on his show? We might be reinventing the wheel here.

 

[deereman75]

Yeah, just put a brick on the pedal, eh Guvnor?

Did Red Green ever build this mobile shop on his show? We might be reinventing the wheel here.

I dont think red green ever made a mobile shop, and yes my idea sounds like something he would do, but it would work. Lets say the top speed of the engine is 2160 rpm, you put a 4:1 reduction drive on the engine, and run it at top speed, and you have 540 rpm.

But really, the governer is the way to go, you might be able to find one on something like a chuck and duck chipper.

 

[Iplayfarmer]

I dont think red green ever made a mobile shop, and yes my idea sounds like something he would do, but it would work. Lets say the top speed of the engine is 2160 rpm, you put a 4:1 reduction drive on the engine, and run it at top speed, and you have 540 rpm.

But really, the governer is the way to go, you might be able to find one on something like a chuck and duck chipper.

I think an advantage of the governer is potential fuel savings. Lower horsepower machines could be geared to run with the engine at a lower RPM.

 

[PapaPerk]

I dont think red green ever made a mobile shop, and yes my idea sounds like something he would do, but it would work. Lets say the top speed of the engine is 2160 rpm, you put a 4:1 reduction drive on the engine, and run it at top speed, and you have 540 rpm.

But really, the governer is the way to go, you might be able to find one on something like a chuck and duck chipper.

You sure chippers have governors? I'm pretty sure you set the throttle at chipper speed and momentum of the chipper head takes care of the rest.

A belt drive tractor governor is what is needed here. Another option is to buy a old power unit. Power units are basically tractor engines without the tractor... however they are self contained and have radiator, fuel tank, control system, etc. They are typically mounted on a skid. Google John Deere or IH power units to learn more.

The diesel/electric generator with electrically powered tools is still the way to go. But I guess that's a big enough challenge! LOL!

 

[DAY]

The diesel/electric generator with electrically powered tools is still the way to go. But I guess that's a big enough challenge! LOL!

A lot of construction guys use an air compressor to power their tools- no "voltage drop" in 100-200 feet of air hose, plus the tool weighs a lot less, up on the roof. And, AHHH! the quiet!

 

[deereman75]

The old chuck and duck chippers like asplundh use have governers. They are set up so that when the rpm starts droppping, it opens the throttle up to try and keep it fast enough to get through the piece of wood before stalling. One of these would be perfect because if you start something that needs alot of power to get moving, it will open up the throttle until it gets it spinning, and it will never go over the set rpm.

 

[kubotakid USA]

RUBE GOLDBERG.. goggle it,.... and you will get your answer,...ssssssorry guys but you are not going to fix anything,.but its sure fun watchin,.

 

[RPW]

You mentioned a water tank, how many gals? At 8.25lbs (give or take) per gallon it adds up fast. For my property I wanted to make a 1000gal fire suppression trailer (I'm out in BFE) but after realizing I needed a 10,000lb trailer welllllll. Finding axles would be a problem.

 

[Iplayfarmer]

You mentioned a water tank, how many gals? At 8.25lbs (give or take) per gallon it adds up fast. For my property I wanted to make a 1000gal fire suppression trailer (I'm out in BFE) but after realizing I needed a 10,000lb trailer welllllll. Finding axles would be a problem.

The water tank was mentioned in conjunction with a pressure washer. Considering that most pressure washers have spec between 2-3 GPM, I'd say one can probably get by with less than 1,000 gallons. I used to receive cleaning soaps in totes, and if I remember correctly, they are 400 gallons. I estimate that would give a guy over two hours of pressure washing with the pressure wand on constant the whole time. The totes are easy to find, and would weigh just over a ton and a half when full. Of course you don't have to fill the tote all the way all the time.

For that matter, a 55 gallon drum will last about 20 minutes. You can do a lot in 20 minutes with a pressure washer. A guy could have two or three drums for longer windows of time. If water is 8.34 pounds per gallon, and the pressure washers suck up to 3 GPM, figure about 25 pounds per minute.

 

[Jason14j]

I've been away for a few days, thanks everyone for the ideas. I'm convinced a belt driven governor is the way to go. As for setting the engine at maximimum RPM and gearing it down I think that would lead to a very short engine life. Water, I have seen plastic tanks that have a wire cage, they are used in the food industry and for light chemicals such as soap. Saw them on craigslist for 75 I believe. When I'm close to a faucet I can drop the hose in the tank, when travelling fill up before heading out. I think 150 gal would be plenty for most jobs, those tanks are a few hundred gallons.

 

[DAY]

From the git-go a pressure washer has been one of the main components of your 'rig'.

And I have been wondering for some time now, jason, what are you planning to pressure wash "in the field"? (I assume it is in a place without access to water.)

 

[Iplayfarmer]

I've been away for a few days, thanks everyone for the ideas. I'm convinced a belt driven governor is the way to go. As for setting the engine at maximimum RPM and gearing it down I think that would lead to a very short engine life. Water, I have seen plastic tanks that have a wire cage, they are used in the food industry and for light chemicals such as soap. Saw them on craigslist for 75 I believe. When I'm close to a faucet I can drop the hose in the tank, when travelling fill up before heading out. I think 150 gal would be plenty for most jobs, those tanks are a few hundred gallons.

The tanks you describe are the totes I was mentioning. Just because you have a 400 gallon capacity doesn't mean you have to fill it all the way.

 

[Jason14j]

From the git-go a pressure washer has been one of the main components of your 'rig'.

And I have been wondering for some time now, jason, what are you planning to pressure wash "in the field"? (I assume it is in a place without access to water.)

I wouldn't say its a main component, more so that it would be easy to add and could be usefull at times. Uses...Maybe, wash dirt off tree roots. Clean off a dirty tractor engine before you work on it in the field. Sandblast a fencepost before painting (nozzle that has a sand pickup tube, I've read good reviews)

 

[Short Game]

There is a lot to be said for having a clean whatever to work on. But, one must not forget that pressure washing is not so much washing dirt off of something as it is transferring the dirt onto yourself.

 

[DAY]

With that generator( electricity) you could add heat, and get steam- and REALLY clean off the grease. (You can also run a sand blaster off the air compressor.)

 

[Jason14j]

With that generator( electricity) you could add heat, and get steam- and REALLY clean off the grease. (You can also run a sand blaster off the air compressor.)

Sounds like you may be thinking about building one for yourself :laughing:

 

[DAY]

Sounds like you may be thinking about building one for yourself :laughing:

no- just egging YOU on!