Trailer with small diesel driving multiple things and a PTO

[Iplayfarmer]

Attached (I hope) is a sketch of what I have in mind. I dont think its quite as complicated or dangerous as some of you inagined. The red dotted line is the shaft which is below the deck, belts would pass through holes cut in the floor. For power you can see the inline 6 engine, transmission, and shortened differential (output calculated to be 540 RPM at 2000 engine RPM). Weight looks to be fairly evenly distributed. I dont plan to stand on the trailer or use any part of it as workspace (for safety). I didnt label it but the green thing on the front of the engine is the air compressor.

I'm sure MrKubotaKid's comments are will intentioned, but I think you can make this and make it well. Admitedly you'll never get out of it what you'll have into it in time and materials if you ever wanted to sell, but I think you can make something that does everything you want it to and does it well. The advantage you have is that you're making one product for one customer (you). You don't have to appeal to a broad customer base.

By the way, have you ever looked at Sketchup for your drawings? Your trailer diagram was quite adequate, but you might like the extra options that a 3D visualization program like sketchup offers. It's free.

 

[DAY]

I have a question, concerning your sketch: Why does the hyd fluid tank go to the radiator? Are you planning on cooling the engine with it, instead of water?

A greater question; in your first post you talk about a "mobil workshop". What sort of tasks are you attacking with a highway ready welder/generator/compressed air/pressure washer/hydraulic pump/PTO workshop?

And, stay safe, over there in the Danger Zone!

 

[Jason14j]

I have a question, concerning your sketch: Why does the hyd fluid tank go to the radiator? Are you planning on cooling the engine with it, instead of water?

A greater question; in your first post you talk about a "mobil workshop". What sort of tasks are you attacking with a highway ready welder/generator/compressed air/pressure washer/hydraulic pump/PTO workshop?

And, stay safe, over there in the Danger Zone!

The hydraulic lines running to the transmission were a last minute thought. Radiators from automatic transmission vehicles have an inlet and outlet where transmission fluid is routed through to cool it. It may be possible to cool my hydraulic fluid...just a thought, I haven't done any research.

The reason for building it would be mainly for personal use. I enjoy, designing, building, and repairing things. Maybe eventually I could turn my hobby into a part time job, but for now just personal use. I was a business major in college and I know it doesn't make good business sense to do it this way but I receive more satisfaction using something that I built than bought. Judging by the posts I've read on here most of the users share the same sentiment.

Thanks, I'll keep my head down...only a few months to go till I'm outa here!

 

[Iplayfarmer]

...Thanks, I'll keep my head down...only a few months to go till I'm outa here!

Thank YOU for what you're doing over there. I enjoy my peace and freedom immensely, and I don't forget that I have it because of men and women like you.

 

[Jason14j]

The hydraulic lines running to the transmission were a last minute thought.

Typo---I meant running to the RADIATOR :thumbsup:

Iplayfarmer.....thank you for your support

 

[DAY]

I notice in your avatar you are holding a 20mm or 40mm "impact tool":thumbsup:
Mount one on the trailer, and you will insure that all your customers settle their bill quickly!

 

[Jason14j]

It's an M2 .50 Caliber Browning :licking:. Hasn't changed design since it was created in the 20's.

 

[DAY]

-So I realized, when I blew up:laughing: the photo!

The same weapon we used at Ft Knox, in the 60's, to cut down small trees and scare the recruits s**tless on the obstacle course, during live fire night exercises.

 

[Jason14j]

-So I realized, when I blew up:laughing: the photo!

The same weapon we used at Ft Knox, in the 60's, to cut down small trees and scare the recruits s**tless on the obstacle course, during live fire night exercises.

And the best part is YOU WERE GETTING PAID to do it :laughing:!

 

[mjncad]

And the best part is YOU WERE GETTING PAID to do it :laughing:!

And no one was shooting back at you.

 

[Jason14j]

I need some advice. I need to control engine speed somehow, I found an 8N governor. Pasted below is the link, this particular one may have problems..assume I use one in good working condition. Could I adapt this to work somehow or is there a better option? Though this thread title mentions diesel power, I will be using the inline 6 cylinder gas engine.

Questions I cant find the answers for online.
1. Will this thing do what I need it to?
2. How is the gear attached, pressed on?
3. What gear does this mesh with on the engine, crank, cam, timing?
4. How many are teeth on the governor and other unknown gear?
5. Estimated travel of rod that goes to the carburetor?

If any of you know a better way please point me in the right direction.

8N Ford Tractor Governor Used w tactometer connection | eBay

 

[Short Game]

What about an aftermarket cruise control as a governor?

You could set it up the run your desired shaft RPM in different gears for different torque load needs, or at another RPM, should the need arise.

 

[Iplayfarmer]

What about an aftermarket cruise control as a governor?

You could set it up the run your desired shaft RPM in different gears for different torque load needs, or at another RPM, should the need arise.

I like that idea. The governer then would be tied more closely with the actual need (shaft speed).

 

[PapaPerk]

I vote for a diesel powered generator and electric machinery. The line shaft has been around for ever but not sure that's the best route in this day and age. The electric generator offers you plenty of flexibility and endless configurations.

Now if you are doing this for a conversation piece well...

 

[Jason14j]

I like that idea. The governer then would be tied more closely with the actual need (shaft speed).

Excellent idea! So simple but perfect for this use. I will do some research on what speed drop is required before accelerating

 

[Jason14j]

I vote for a diesel powered generator and electric machinery. The line shaft has been around for ever but not sure that's the best route in this day and age. The electric generator offers you plenty of flexibility and endless configurations.

Now if you are doing this for a conversation piece well...

I am due an upgrade anyway of these things Im planning to install. If I just bought what I needed without building this ...the welder/generator and pressure washer would be gas powered. The hydraulic pump is something new to me and would need to be gas powered. The air compressor would be electric.
I havent done the math but the prices for those items (each with its own engine or motor and wheels, frame etc) would likely exceed the build price for what I have in mind. I would only have to maintain one engine, which was in production for decades so parts are readily availible. I can have a large tank for my pressure washer and not have to be tied to a garden hose. And it would make a good conversatin piece :laughing:

 

[jake98]

I used to run a step van for my construction business but I eventually realized that 9 times out of 10 I only needed one or two of the hundred tools on any given day.. sounds like a fun project tho..

 

[Short Game]

The Batman utility belt will only go so far. Sometimes you gotta bring the whole durned cave.

 

[del10820]

Thank you for your service for us. On the governor you need to look at old construction equipment, a lot of them used Chevy, Ford, or I-H engines. Some of the old trucks used in city delivery had air brakes and had compressors mounted on the engine. I have seen guys use old A/C compressor mounts to mount an air compressor and used an electric clutch to turn it on. On the hydraulic pump there are engine belt driven units, Dewee is one that I remember but there are others. I have thought of doing some thing along the same line. Be safe as you can.

del10820

 

[deereman75]

Wait, wouldnt the truck engine have had a governer?