Spencer's Pole Barn Project

[GrantMO]

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No need for ridicule Spencer. I and I'm sure most people have done similar and worse things. Pulling that post and setting a new one gave me flashbacks to the 16 new ones I put in our old pole barn because of rot or termite damage. You've done a great job, especially on your own and I've enjoyed the pictures and commentary!
Grant

 

[BWa]

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Hey I bet you the time and the cost of that post is not anywhere close to what I did.....
I go a call from my brother (lives at home with mom) to clean up the snow from one of the last storms . (she has it plowed out she/mom cann't /will not wait for me to get there to do it ) Any way they wanted more done and I happened to be their ... So I start clearing and get the idea to clean out around the walk way and to get at the trash barrels , lil' bro' had his bass hunter boat leaning against a tree , ....my first pass found his chairs buried under the snow , they are scrap now , second pass to get by the now wrecked chairs ....yup got the boat ......totaled it .... /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif
After a lil' talk behind the wood pile we are spliting the cost 50/50 ....his failure to take care of his boat and my poor driving skill........
That and the fact he wants / getting the next size up bass hunter Angler Delux..
Found it on line for $740 , on sale at $509 shipping $87. and it's a done deal ...

No I am not saying a word but I can feel your hurt ....
Bill G.
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[jasonf]

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I don't think there is anything that ANY of us could say that you have not already said to yourself. Besides we have all done something similar (at least I have) /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif. I do have to say I admire the pallet fork setup you have, actually jealous is more like it..... What brand is it, and how much are they ? Bet it made that job go alot easier !!!!

Nice to see you have it taken care of it, and the barn looks great, now that spring is around the corner, you can get to putting a roof on it /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

 

[Spencer]

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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( I do have to say I admire the pallet fork setup you have, actually jealous is more like it..... What brand is it, and how much are they ? Bet it made that job go alot easier !!)</font>

jasonf, My forks are made by Construction Attachments Limited and I have posted about them a few times on this board. Here is a link to one of those threads.

To answer your question about making the job easier, I really don't know what I would have done without the forks. I thought Wroughtn_Harv would have jumped in this thread and taught us all a thing or two about pulling posts, maybe he still will.

 

[Spencer]

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Hey, remember this thread? I am working on getting half of my roof on this weekend. I will work on getting the other half of the roof ready to shingle in the next couple of weeks. Everything depends on the weather. I am only now ready to shingle the first half because the weather finally broke here in Michigan. Unfortunatley now I am about broke too so this project may linger on for a while, bear with me. Here is a picture after I got all the sheathing up today. I went with the more expensive 1/2" plywood that you all recommended so it better be worth it.

 

[Spencer]

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Here is a view of the plywood from the ground. I don't every remember seeing such a blue sky. With my blue tarp walls, by blue boomer, and this blue sky, its amazing I didn't feel blue today.

 

[Spencer]

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Here is a picture of where I left off for the day. I got all the 30 pound felt on with the help of a friend and we will hopefully get all of my <font color="blue"> blue </font> <font color="black"> </font> shingles on Sunday. I took Bird's (and others) advice and put the drip edge over the felt on the sides. I ripped off all of the felt and drip edge that I put over the lean-to in January and did it according to the advice that I got here on TBN.

 

[Bird]

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It's looking good, Spence.

 

[Anonymous Poster]

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Great project Spence! I'm fairly new to TBN, but your's was one of the first posts I read from start to finish...I've been anxiously waiting for your latest progress report...sounds and looks great! Keep up the great work, and thanks for sharing! /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

 

[pajoube]

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I can only echo what others have said, great looking barn going up.
Looking forward to seeing pictures of your putting the side wall material up.
Thanks again for sharing your progress.
PJ

 

[Spencer]

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This photo gives you an idea of the color and style of the shingles. I went with the Owens Corning "Harbor Blue" 40 year architectural shingle.

 

[Spencer]

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Here is a view from the ground. I like the way this side of the pole barn looks although I will rarely get to see this side. I took this photo from my neigbors property.

 

[knucklehead]

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Good of you to give the "good side" to the neighbors. The plywood and shingles look great.....now I have to "review" my "choice" of metal roofing. Of my theoretical barn, of course.

Any movement of the poles over the Winter? Probably not, but just thought I'd ask. Other than the one that moved sideways, of course. /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

 

[pajoube]

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Great color,
Question, why would you not sheet both sides prior to putting shingles on? Is there an advantage?
PJ

 

[Spencer]

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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Any movement of the poles over the Winter? Probably not, but just thought I'd ask. Other than the one that moved sideways, of course. /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif )</font>

knucklehead, No there was no detectable movement of the poles other than that one.

 

[Spencer]

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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Great color,
Question, why would you not sheet both sides prior to putting shingles on? Is there an advantage?
PJ )</font>

pajoube, Trying to sheet both sides and get them shingled would have been biting off more than I can chew. I knew that ahead of time and I didn't even consider trying it. I spent Thursday and Friday night, all day Saturday and Sunday, and finished up on Monday just to get the one side done. I have to be careful about the amount of time I spend on this project. If I spend too much time on it then I may end up having to sleep out there.

 

[dfeck]

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This has been a pleasure reading. Any update?

 

[Spencer]

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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( I have to be careful about the amount of time I spend on this project. If I spend too much time on it then I may end up having to sleep out there.
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This quote from my last post says it all. I had to give the wife a break. She works full time and when she gets home from work I had been asking her to do more than her share of taking care of our beautiful daughter so I could go out and "play". I really neglected the yard last summer due to the pole barn project so I spent quite a bit of time on getting that in better shape this spring. I also took a couple of my free days and went dirt bike riding. I am working on getting electric to the barn. Everything out here in the woods is underground and the transformer is 375 feet away from where my panel will be located in the barn. I spent a lot of time negotiating with the local electical supplier to let me do what I want. They wanted to charge me two grand to trench over from the transformer, put the underground wire in the trench, and place the meter on the building. I wanted to have the meter located near the transformer and do the trenching and such myself. I wanted a central distribution point with one meter at the transformer so when I add more buildings to the property I don't have to pay them to come out again (and I don't have multiple meters all over the place). I will just be able to tap into my central distribution point and go from there. I've convinced them to let me do that. I have the electrical permit, I'm just waiting for MissDig (underground utility locating service) to come out and flag my property again. They will be coming out next Friday to meet with me. I have to go out of town again next Tuesday through Thursday or they would have come sooner.

Thanks for the interest. I will be sure to post when I make some more progress. At least I am not working backwards like I was this winter when I busted that pole /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif (Now I've done it, I probably shouldn't have said that).

 

[marrt]

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Spencer,

I've really enjoyed these posts as well. I too have to do everthing myself (with the exception of my tractor helper of course). I plan to built a similar project so keep the posts and pictures coming. Thanks.

 

[Spencer]

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As I was saying in my post dated 5/23/03 I have been focusing on getting electric out to the new pole barn. I figured if I start on the electric in the spring I may have it done by winter /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif. In the previous post I think I mentioned that all the utilities out here in the woods are buried underground so I need to keep the new power lines underground as well. Some of you have tapped into the power from your house and fed your outbuildings that way. I have attached a diagram showing why that is not even an option for me. In the diagram you can see my existing power lines feeding my house. They actually don't run straight like that but you get the point. The electric company tells me that those lines are 453 feet long and are 350mcm aluminum lines. According to all the charts I have seen that is really pushing it if you want a 200 amp service. I do have a 200 amp panel in my house but there is a 125 amp breaker on the outside of the house right after the meter. I think they might have put that on there because they new they were pushing it with the 350mcm aluminum at a length of 453 feet. It is another 250 feet from the house down to the pole barn. There is just no way I could tap into the house to feed the barn with all of these circumstances. So, as stated earlier the electric company wanted $2000 to trench the 375 feet from the transformer to the barn, supply and bury the 350mcm aluminum cable, and mount a meter on my barn. I think I can do it cheaper and make it easier for myself in the future if I want additional buildinds on the property.

Diagram attached.