Looking at getting first real tractor.

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I'm in the market for a good tractor - backhoe, loader, tiller, etc.

We previously had a JD 420, about an 83 model, that hasn't ran in 3-4 years.

We have Kubota, Mahindra, John Deere, Rural King, and Kioti dealers within 1-1.5 hours of us.

We will garden, do some brush clearing, driveway maintenance, and we will have a small, 16 site campground in the next year. Own about 6-7 acres on one site and about 4 on another. I live an Eastern Kentucky and we have a lot of lat ground, but a lot of sloping hills and river and creek bank as well.

Have looked online at the Kioti CK2510 HST, because that was suggested by a friend. Majority around here in the area is JD and Kubota.


So far, Kioti seems to be the best deal while Rural King is the cheapest.


Thoughts and suggestions.
 
   / Looking at getting first real tractor. #2  
All I can say is. You mention "REAL". To me, the realness of a tractor starts with wheel size. You want a glorified garden tractor, get something with dinky wheels. You want a "REAL" tractor, hence "Traction" consider that. Matters when you need to pull your pickup out of a ditch. A bit of mass helps too.
 
   / Looking at getting first real tractor. #3  
:welcome: to TBN.
You may want to some home work on 30hp upwards for what you have plan also future.
 
   / Looking at getting first real tractor. #4  
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I'm in the market for a compact TLB.
We have Kubota, Mahindra, John Deere, Rural King, and Kioti dealers within 1-1.5 hours of us.

The most efficient way to shop for tractors is to first identify potential tractor applications, then, through consulataton, establish bare tractor weight necessary to safely accomplish your applications. Tractor dealers, experienced tractor owners and TractorByNet.com are sources for weight recommendations.

Sufficient tractor weight is more important for most tractor applications than increased tractor horsepower. Bare tractor weight is a tractor specification easily found in sales brochures and web sites, readily comparable across tractor brands and tractor models, new and used.


We will garden, do some brush clearing, driveway maintenance. We will have a 16 site campground in the next year. Own about 6-7 acres on one site and about 4 on another; eleven acres total. I live an Eastern Kentucky and we have a lot of lat ground, but a lot of sloping hills and river and creek bank as well.

Twenty-five horsepower will operate a light duty, 60" X 450 pound Rotary Mower cutting moderate length grasss, no brush.
To cut brush you need a least a medium duty, 60" X 650 pound Rotary Mower, which requires a minimum of 33-horsepower to operate.
To cut heavy brush you need a heavy duty 60" X 1,000 pound Rotary Mower, which requires a minimum of 35-horsepower to operate.


QUESTIONS: Backhoe is a $6,000 option. What recurring tasks do you foresee for a Backhoe? Work on the campground? How far between your two parcels? Will you road or trailer your tractor between parcels?

Have looked online at the Kioti CK2510 HST, because that was suggested by a friend.

This is an option IF a two (2) range HST transmission will suit you moving a heavy T-L-B up and down slopes. Most here would consider a three (3) range HST essential for work over sloping ground. A two-range HST is also very slow traveling on the road. Twenty-five horsepower will operate a light duty, 60" X 450 pound Rotary Mower cutting moderate length grasss, no brush.

I recommend the Kioti CK3510, which is heavier, has a three (3) range HST transmission and 35-horsepower gross.


So far, Kioti seems to be the best deal while Rural King is the cheapest. Majority around here are JD and Kubota.

Yes. Kubota has 50% of the USA compact tractor market. Deere has 20% of the USA compact tractor market. Most compact tractor buyers decide to pay the higher price commanded by these two dominant, stable, tractor brands. Twenty-five (+/-) other tractor brands compete for the residual 30% compact tractor market share in the USA.

I speculate Kioti has 2%-3% of the compact tractor market in the USA. Rural King has less than 1% of the compact tractor market in the USA. Both Kioti and RK/TYM are Korean. I would consider Kioti higher quality and more stable as a USA tractor brand than RK. For your applications the RK37 would be suitable in weight and horsepower.

It is your hard earned money. Spend it as you wish. The best way to decrease your tractor cost is to eliminate the $6,000 Backhoe option.
 
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For what your wanting to do with your property in the future, such as potential RV camp sites and grounds maintenance and mowing. Recommend you closely look at Kioti CK35. Or the Kubota L3301. Both are capable and highly reliable. Include a Front End Loader (FEL) and two sets rear hydraulic mounts for any future expansion, such as backhoe and also range of attachments. Do your research and more research.
 
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So basically I have no clue.

I would use the backhoe for ditching, etc., and use at campground. Luxury I guess.

If I get into 35 hp am I getting in to emissions and DEF?
 
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I would use the backhoe for ditching, etc., and use at campground. Luxury I guess.

If I get into 35 hp am I getting in to emissions and DEF?

DEF on tractors starts with 75-horsepower; so no DEF.

Every new tractor over 25-1/2 horsepower has strict Tier IV emission controls. Old news in 2020.

If you need a $6,000 - $7,000 Backhoe, buy one. A Bucket Spade costs $400.

Backhoe has to be removed to access the Three Point Hitch for tractor pulling applications, then replaced when you need to trench. ON/OFF no big deal but easier for those age 50 and younger.

How far between your two parcels? Will you over-road or trailer your tractor between parcels?
 

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Forget the backhoe, rent a mini-excavator when you need to dig. I had a 30 hp Kubota, good and dependable little tractor. My 66 hp Deere 4720 is a great tractor, it's a large frame compact with 55 hp at the PTO. Big enough to easily lift a large round bale and small enough for tight maneuvering.
 
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If you are looking at Kioti, I would suggest you go the next step up to the CK2610. A lot more tractor for just a little bit more.
 
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So basically I have no clue.

I would use the backhoe for ditching, etc., and use at campground. Luxury I guess.

If I get into 35 hp am I getting in to emissions and DEF?

Yep......if you buy new you are!
 

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