Full figured 25hp Tractors

[IH3444]

Good update, glad your Kioti is working out for you.
I picked up a CK2620SE with the cab and AC last summer.
One reason I went with the 2620 is the 25 hp limit to avoid a doc/dpf in the exhaust and emission compliant common rail fuel injection.
I also will be turning the fuel screw up mine. I did get the little backhoe and while I have used it quite a bit I'm still debating with myself the usefulness of the backhoe compared to one of the chinee mini excavators for about the same money.
I am pleased with the R14 tires, I did have to add spacers to the rear for tire chain clearance.
Also I use the mid range most of the time but it will run out of power quite rapidly some times.
My driveway is steep and she can travese the entire thing with the AC on in low range with no trouble, in mid range I end up with the hand throttle maxed out and feathered most of the way out on the speed pedal to keep her above 2200 rpm in a few spots and if I'm in a hurry I'll turn the AC off for a hundred feet of the steepest.
I am going to have to put a seat riser or a stiffer spring in the seat to raise my seating position and have to watch my right knee as it has curled the bucket a few times when I wasn't paying attention.

Hello LouNY, I'm trying to decide between Kubota LX2620 Cab and the Kioti CK2620SE Cab w/loader. I just got a quote on a leftover 2024 Kioti CK2620SE Cab with R14 tires so I was wondering what you paid for your Kioti? I also have a Kioti CS2520 60" mower just for moving and so far, am happy with it. Thanks, IH3444

 

[LouNY]

I don't recall for sure it was around $36,000 or $38,000, but I also got the little back hoe with it and that was0ver $7000 close to $8000 as I recall. I also got the wider bucket and the heavy duty stabilizer parts.
I have noticed that the AC really takes a toll on her hill climbing ability in mid or high range.

 

[IH3444]

Thanks, LouNY, without the backhoe that's what I was quoted.

 

[tacticalturnip]

Any machine in this horsepower to weight category is going to prefer medium/low going up a hill, even an open station, it's just the nature of this beast.

 

[arrow]

Thanks, LouNY, without the backhoe that's what I was quoted.

The cab and R14 tires are going to be equivalent or more to a backhoe price wise.

 

[paulsharvey]

So, based on my experience, if I was wanting a Ck2620 sized machine, which i do think is a great size, with a cab, i really would price the 35 or 40 hp version. I kniw you have regen, but I haven't heard of any wide spread issues with the Kioti regeneration, and I think you'll be happy with the power. In the open station models, its only a few $1000 more; dont kniw in cab models, but i would atleast price it.

 

[arrow]

So, based on my experience, if I was wanting a Ck2620 sized machine, which i do think is a great size, with a cab, i really would price the 35 or 40 hp version. I kniw you have regen, but I haven't heard of any wide spread issues with the Kioti regeneration, and I think you'll be happy with the power. In the open station models, its only a few $1000 more; dont kniw in cab models, but i would atleast price it.

I tend to agree.
Having the opportunity to drive all types of hp tractors, yes you avoid regen with anything under 25 hp.
Although big machinery can run on hydro, 25 hp never seems enough motivational force for a hydro system sized for a compact tractor in my opinion.

 

[Rdrcr]

I would agree. Full figured 25HP tractors do struggle especially with a Cab and Backhoe attached. Case in point, the Kubota Grand L Series L3240.

Luckily, alternative options to increase power do exist!

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With a Turbo Kit both these tractors are now producing 45HP and 35PTO.

Mike

 

[IH3444]

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=kioti+CK2610+turn+up+fuel

 

[arto98607]

I hope the rest of the tractor, like transmission, differential gears & bearings, PTO etc. can handle that kind of power increase in the long run...
I doubt the designers oversized all of it that much, after all Kubota is in business to make a profit.

Oh well, each to his own.

Cheers

 

[ptsg]

I hope the rest of the tractor, like transmission, differential gears & bearings, PTO etc. can handle that kind of power increase in the long run...
I doubt the designers oversized all of it that much, after all Kubota is in business to make a profit.

Oh well, each to his own.

Cheers

The same model of the tractor is often offered in various HP variants. In this size of tractors, usually from 25HP up to 50HP, with the only changes being the engine/engine tune. This is the case for pretty much all manufacturers.

My tractor, at one point, was offered in 25HP, 30HP, 35HP, 40HP and 45HP, being the 2 later ones being a 3 cylinder 1.7L turbocharged engine. Now, they reduced it to 25HP, 35HP and 50Hp, while the later one gets a bigger and 4 cylinder 2.3L naturally aspired engine. Same transmission, same frame, same chassis, everything. I believe they only adjusted the gearing in the range gears for the 25HP variant.

 

[tacticalturnip]

I hope the rest of the tractor, like transmission, differential gears & bearings, PTO etc. can handle that kind of power increase in the long run...
I doubt the designers oversized all of it that much, after all Kubota is in business to make a profit.

Oh well, each to his own.

Cheers

The Kubota L-40 line ran from 32 to 57 horsepower, the Kioti CK-10/20 line goes from 25 to 40, the machines can handle it so long as you're reasonably responsible.

 

[arto98607]

Sounds good!

 

[Rdrcr]

The Kubota L-40 line ran from 32 to 57 horsepower, the Kioti CK-10/20 line goes from 25 to 40, the machines can handle it so long as you're reasonably responsible.

Agreed.

And the Kubota Standard L Series goes from 25-39 with a virtually identical PTO train. These tractors without a doubt can handle the power assuming no abuse, proper maintenance and some EGT monitoring due diligence.

There are nearly one hundred Turbocharged Kubota L2501’s operating now and have combined for thousands of hours logged without incident and factory reliability.

Mike

 

[Texasmark]

What makes/models are in that bigger/heavier/more capabable then a sub compact, and still in the cheap, small range. I assume the 25hp emissions stuff is the reason for a significant price jump right at that border line. With an actually decent lifting capacity, decent travel speed, ect. It seems like the MF GC series; Kubota BX, JD 1025; whatever are all giving up a lot of weight, lifting, ground clearance and other capabilities.

Last time I checked, when I bought my new 2021 LS MT2-25S with loader for $15,500 with the dealer taking 2 nice tractors in trade and delivering free from 250 miles away, 26 HP is the break point for no juice or regen required.

I was checking that subject a couple of days ago and I think I saw that in 2028 the regs might include the less than 26 HP.

The LS I mentioned is well worth your time if you are looking for amenities in a compact tractor. I'm 6'5 and at the time was at 235# and I fit very comfortably in that LS compact. Have had zero problems with it other than initially an intermittent rear tail light assembly that I ordered a new one, received it in short order, put the old one in the box and sent it back to the dealer, all cost free. No other problems and I use it every day around the place....my second set of hands.