Fighting 'Solar Farm' Installation

[two_bit_score]

There are currently 2 CNG fill locations in Fort Worth.

Yeah, in 2008 I really got excited about CNG as a motor fuel. Really thought about getting a Honda that used CNG. Sure glad I didn't.

 

[KilroyJC]

And how many FF jobs were lost because of those jobs?

You can’t keep going on spouting off about solar jobs being amazing without understanding it costs jobs on the other end by elimination of the existing FF jobs!

In context of "we all do" in context of eliminating hydrocarbons as energy production sources, it is not blatantly ridiculous. Anyone that would not want to switch all of our energy over to fusion would be stupid (and if you noticed, that's what I said).
Asserting that anyone would want to eliminate all hydrocarbons in a literal sense is just "blatantly ridiculous."

Well, until fusion gets up and running (and do t think the anti-Nukey folks won’t protest that, too), you might as well wish for everything to switch over to running on unicorn farts and politicians’ promises.

funny how we are always “just twenty years away” from producing fusion energy, just like we are always “just ten years away” from the next climate disaster…

 

[KilroyJC]

I'm not sure who started that myth, windmills and solar are no recyclable...
I believe it was 6o Minutes this past Sunday that showcased a company recycling both. Like most recycling, it starts out slow, but it has started and it seemed from the segment, it is very doable...

Typo won’t-don’t .

technically, everything is recyclable, it just depends on recovery rates vs energy/effort input.

Solar and Wind cannot provide enough energy to recycle themselves and still maintain the rest of the economy.

 

[KilroyJC]

All this talk of keystone , for and against. Just wondering if all these arguments apply to the carbon capture pipeline they are taking properties under the guise of "the Greater Good". At least oil is a proven commodity, this carbon capture looks more and more like a scam the more I look into it.

Carbon Capture is a way to starve plant life…

 

[KilroyJC]

The only way this will be feasable is to recharge the harvesting equipment in motion by having a diesel generator running. Or the farmers will have to buy extra $$$$$ expensive batteries and take the time to swap out them out, which will increase the time it takes to harvest the crop.
Option #2, is to have an extra Combine (harvester) on hand, just doesn't make economic sense.
EV farm equipment at this stage of technology is just virtue signalling, in my opinion.

I am reminded of the photo of the gasoline-powered service van, towing a diesel generator, providing roadside assistance to an EV to recharge it.

lid you are going to have a diesel generator towed to recharge the tractor while in motion,

a) what kind of vehicle is towing the diesel generator?
a-1) if the towing vehicle is an EV, how long does it need to operate for the charging cycle?
a-2) how long does the towing vehicle need to recharge before going out to recharge the tractor again?
b) how long does it take to recharge the tractor batteries while the batteries are still discharging during harvesting operations?
c) why not make a Hybrid tractor instead of an EV tractor?
d) why not just keep the tractor diesel and stick with proven technology that works and ultimately is more efficient and has fewer components to fail?

 

[Hay Dude]

Zero to my knowledge.
US didn’t have a play in that game.

This was about Canada business.

Much of this comparison was around a Canadian owned pipeline against US solar farms.

Your quote :”The pipeline wasn’t going to receive the funding that the solar power generation industry is receiving. ”

Can’t think of why the US would have invested in Canada’s pipeline.

It goes through the USA and we’re talking about domestic energy policies, so yeah I don’t really care what other countries are doing about their pipelines.

China wants to build a battery plant in Michigan, and not a whimper from the greenies. But when the USA and CA want to collaborate on a FF pipeline that will bring jobs and possible energy sources to the US and the world you all scream like children.

China is taking over the world and people who are against fossil fuels help by handing China the keys.

I hope y’all like it when we really start getting pushed around by them. We can thank you for being part of the process.

 

[KilroyJC]

I am just going to leave this here…

Interior Secretary Deb Haaland Testifies It's Better to Get Rid of Jobs in USA, Live in Poverty and Save the Planet - Even if Rest of The World Doesn't Do It - The Last Refuge

Around 15 years ago CTH outlined the inclusive goal of the progressive movement, modern Democrats as they were evolving, was to deconstruct the U.S. economic system so that Americans would be forced to live in government-controlled poverty. Essentially reduced to circling a campfire, eating...

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[KilroyJC]

It goes through the USA and we’re talking about domestic energy policies, so yeah I don’t really care what other countries are doing about their pipelines.

China wants to build a battery plant in Michigan, and not a whimper from the greenies. But when the USA and CA want to collaborate on a FF pipeline that will bring jobs and possible energy sources to the US and the world you all scream like children.

China is taking over the world and people who are against fossil fuels help by handing China the keys.

I hope y’all like it when we really start getting pushed around by them. We can thank you for being part of the process.

We are already pushed around by them.

 

[Hay Dude]

We are already pushed around by them.

Well yeah and we all know why, but that’s a discussion we can’t have.

 

[Hay Dude]

Well, until fusion gets up and running (and do t think the anti-Nukey folks won’t protest that, too), you might as well wish for everything to switch over to running on unicorn farts and politicians’ promises.

funny how we are always “just twenty years away” from producing fusion energy, just like we are always “just ten years away” from the next climate disaster…

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[walhondingMF]

So whales are dying and its been debunked but drilling may have an effect on them. I guess when the whales swim by the drilling platforms. They wait to die until they are near the offshore turbines. Hilarious. Your bias is astounding. 30 years of models can't predict anything. I keep hearing from your side that we are on the verge of climate catastrophe. Yet we are still launching rockets into space. (many of the left dont care or do the greenies) and those pesky volcanic eruptions that happen every year should put us over the edge. It never does. The failed predictions of every 10 years we must do something has come and gone since the 60s and 70s.

At least you didnt disagree about negative home values b/c of solar and wind turbines. Which is a no brainer.

Your lack of facts is astounding. It's not the actual act of drilling or the actual turbines. Read what I started again. It's the methods used to find locations for drilling or turbines. Read ALL of what I stated and then look it up. Not hard to find.
No one legitimate in climate science claims volcanoes have any impact on HUMAN caused climate change... because humans don't cause volcanoes...

 

[walhondingMF]

What’s with the “Jesus” in the start of your replies? Try to show some respect.

I'm asking for his help lol

It's a "figure of speech" that my grandmother who went to church every Sunday of her life used on a regular basis (especially when she was irritated with me as a child). No intent to offend.

 

[walhondingMF]

Why single out someone you don't like and point the finger...... China is entrenched and corporations outsourced but not because of him.

I could say the same. I think its terrible that China has any political influence in our country, but so does Saudia Arabia and several other middle eastern countries. None of them should have influence. No one in either party has done or is doing anything to change that. I'll point the finger at all of them. I'm just telling you your "hero" didn't actually accomplish anything and only claimed he did. Closing the front door but opening the back.

 

[walhondingMF]

No, your premise is wrong.
There’s a difference between allowing a pipeline and funding solar panels.
A BIG difference.

The pipeline wasn’t going to receive the funding that the solar power generation industry is receiving.

The solar industry is receiving the same tax abutments and subsides the NG industry is receiving.

 

[walhondingMF]

walhondingMF said...​

"You can blame the current office all you want. The fact is, workers in America have had a 9% increase in wages but stock holder profits for fortune 500 countries since the pandemic have gone up 25-30%. It's called price gouging."

Real wages are up less than what you've stated and when inflations is accounted for, they are down. The fortune 500 companies did well under the pandemic, especially the drug companies and Amazon, Walmart while the little guys who were shut down suffered greatly. The government in various states picked who could open and who couldn't limiting where people could purchase thus the big guys won out. during that time frame I did work for both types of companies, not all the big ones were left unscathed and in rare circumstances were the little guys left alone to operate. Then they were bought off with "covid cash" to gain compliance. I could go on...

Agree. But maybe were blaming the wrong "people" here. Maybe price gouging and using the money that the corporations received should have been spent on the workers. Instead it was used to recoup stock losses for shareholders. They said as much. They took our tax dollars and gave it to the rich investors rather than reinvesting it. The problem is much bigger than the previous administration or the current.

 

[walhondingMF]

Well, until fusion gets up and running (and do t think the anti-Nukey folks won’t protest that, too), you might as well wish for everything to switch over to running on unicorn farts and politicians’ promises.

funny how we are always “just twenty years away” from producing fusion energy, just like we are always “just ten years away” from the next climate disaster…

Not sure where in the past, you heard that we were just "20 years away" on fusion, but until recent events, I had only ever heard roughly 40-50 years. With what they pulled off a few months ago, the timeline has been shortened. I would listen to what the experts on the topic say about it, not those sensationalizing it.

 

[walhondingMF]

It goes through the USA and we’re talking about domestic energy policies, so yeah I don’t really care what other countries are doing about their pipelines.

China wants to build a battery plant in Michigan, and not a whimper from the greenies. But when the USA and CA want to collaborate on a FF pipeline that will bring jobs and possible energy sources to the US and the world you all scream like children.

China is taking over the world and people who are against fossil fuels help by handing China the keys.

I hope y’all like it when we really start getting pushed around by them. We can thank you for being part of the process.

And you while using your Chinese made technology.

Do you drive a truck with a microchip in it? I'm sure many of us do. I thought the current administration was pushing micro chip factories in America so we don't have to depend on China to make them?

 

[Hay Dude]

And you while using your Chinese made technology.

Do you drive a truck with a microchip in it? I'm sure many of us do. I thought the current administration was pushing micro chip factories in America so we don't have to depend on China to make them?

What a silly analogy
Like do I have a choice where the chips come from?
Maybe if we had some functional national policy, we would make them here?
Now we have Chinese battery plants being built in Michigan. What’s next? Chinese policy taught in schools? Oh wait, we already have that….

 

[Hay Dude]

The solar industry is receiving the same tax abutments and subsides the NG industry is receiving.

Pipeline son….try to stick to the Keystone pipeline

 

[walhondingMF]

Pipeline son….try to stick to the Keystone pipeline

Correction... the oil industry receives the same subsidies as the solar industry.

And if you want to discuss pipelines son, the pipeline construction and transmission station design and construction company 2 of my nephews work for get plenty of subsidies. One of them is responsible for applying for them for the specific jobs he is assigned to.