Buying Advice Diesel smog emission stuff?

[Bob_Young]

One thing struck me when I was reading the manual for my new L3902: this was not a tractor that I could ever loan out. The procedures, controls, and instructions were just too complicated for people who just go 'hammer down' when it comes to accomplishing work. When the instrument panel lights up or buzzers start going off, DPF/regen would be defeated, inhibited or the tractor would be shut off...and I probably wouldn't learn about it until I got the bill.

If getting someone to stop and clean the radiator screen when a normal tractor shows signs of overheating is too much (in spite of being repeatedly told), then the DPF and regens are far above their pay grade.

 

[RB5]

One thing struck me when I was reading the manual for my new L3902: this was not a tractor that I could ever loan out. The procedures, controls, and instructions were just too complicated for people who just go 'hammer down' when it comes to accomplishing work. When the instrument panel lights up or buzzers start going off, DPF/regen would be defeated, inhibited or the tractor would be shut off...and I probably wouldn't learn about it until I got the bill.

If getting someone to stop and clean the radiator screen when a normal tractor shows signs of overheating is too much (in spite of being repeatedly told), then the DPF and regens are far above their pay grade.

Yeah and this is the reason I now do the small amount of work for my father in law instead of letting him borrow the tractor.

 

[Deleted member 371759]

Wooo the diesel emissions debate. One thing I can say is... Diesel emission systems do not in anyway contribute to the longevity of a diesel engine. Mahindra does use EGR like every other manufacturer. Tig welder 16 inches of SS pipe and Amazon.com it doesn't anymore though along with the DOC.

 

[4570Man]

Considering Mahindra's size 15 footprint in the global tractor market (top tractor seller in the world, by volume of units sold), I don't see this as an issue. That article was published in 2014. Mahindra business has not been impacted by their EGR T4 engine designs yet, in nine years...

Their smaller engines are made by Yanmar, and they have a platinum reputation within the industry. Mahindra still offers seven years on the power train warranty.

Say what you will, but Mahindra's market success, globally, is hard to argue against. If Mahindra tractors, and their EGR T4 engines, were garbage, the global market would chase after other brands. Cheers!

What percentage of Mahindra’s sales are in countries that have T4 or comparable emission standards?

 

[Deleted member 371759]

What percentage of Mahindra’s sales are in countries that have T4 or comparable emission standards?

According to forbes With The #1 Farm Tractor In The World, Mahindra Looks To Supercharge Its U.S. Business
Mahindra sells the most tractors on the planet and are the third best selling tractor in the USA.

 

[4570Man]

According to forbes With The #1 Farm Tractor In The World, Mahindra Looks To Supercharge Its U.S. Business
Mahindra sells the most tractors on the planet and are the third best selling tractor in the USA.

I’m not denying that statement but they sell the vast majority of their tractors to countries that are too busy burning tires for power generation to worry about diesel exhaust.

 

[Deleted member 371759]

I’m not denying that statement but they sell the vast majority of their tractors to countries that are too busy burning tires for power generation to worry about diesel exhaust.

I just told you they were the 3rd best selling tractor in the USA.

 

[Paystar]

According to forbes With The #1 Farm Tractor In The World, Mahindra Looks To Supercharge Its U.S. Business
Mahindra sells the most tractors on the planet and are the third best selling tractor in the USA.

Best selling tractor in the THIRD world. LOL

 

[Deleted member 371759]

Best selling tractor in the THIRD world. LOL

HAhah hahah yeah!!

 

[Paystar]

Sorry, couldn't resist, LOL

Funny how EVERY manufacturer says they are the biggest in the world, LOL

 

[Deleted member 371759]

Sorry, couldn't resist, LOL

Funny how EVERY manufacturer says they are the biggest in the world, LOL

Kind of of makes sense though seeing as the population of India and China is 3 billion combined. A lot of farming needs to take place to feed 3 billion people.

 

[Paystar]

Kind of of makes sense though seeing as the population of India and China is 3 billion combined. A lot of farming needs to take place to feed 3 billion people.

That and so many of these tractor manufacturers make models for other manufacturers......you can't keep track any more.

 

[2manyrocks]

I have a Mahinda 3525 that needed brake work so I searched youtube for a how to video. What I found was guys that appear to me to be working in India in bare feet in primitive working conditions showing how they do these repairs.

I think it also needs some bull pinion gear seals on the brake assembly replaced that are internal to the transmission case. If this repair was being made in India, the cost might be minimal where in the US it's looking like 10-12 hours of work at $100 hour. To me, they should have made the seals externally replaceable, but they didn't. Sometimes I wonder if it is due to a mindset that labor is cheap in India so why design the tractor to save labor on this kind of repair?

 

[Deleted member 371759]

I have a Mahinda 3525 that needed brake work so I searched youtube for a how to video. What I found was guys that appear to me to be working in India in bare feet in primitive working conditions showing how they do these repairs.

I think it also needs some bull pinion gear seals on the brake assembly replaced that are internal to the transmission case. If this repair was being made in India, the cost might be minimal where in the US it's looking like 10-12 hours of work at $100 hour. To me, they should have made the seals externally replaceable, but they didn't. Sometimes I wonder if it is due to a mindset that labor is cheap in India so why design the tractor to save labor on this kind of repair?

I could go on and on with those types of stories. Replace the injectors on a LB7 Duramax? 13 hour job and about $3K at a dealer plus at least $3k in injectors so a $6K job. Everything on top of the engine needs to come off injectors are under the valve cover. Oil pan on your 7.3 powerstroke leaking? Well here's what you need to do loosen engine mounts disconnect everything connected to the engine and just go ahead and remove the engine. because the pan wont clear a cross member and you can't drop it far enough to clear the oil pickup. While you are at it make sure you apply the recommended ford sealant to the engine while its upside down or it will surely leak again straight away.

. No big deal.

 

[5030]

Maybe on a 2wd 7.3 but not on my F350 4wd. Changed the pan once (because Ford pans are junk) and never pulled the engine or loosened the motor mounts. Do keep in mind that mine is 6 over stock with a flipped front differential too.

 

[Deleted member 371759]

Maybe on a 2wd 7.3 but not on my F350 4wd. Changed the pan once (because Ford pans are junk) and never pulled the engine or loosened the motor mounts. Do keep in mind that mine is 6 over stock with a flipped front differential too.

Ok. Proved me wrong and everyone else that foolishly removed their engines to replace their oil pans. Man I'm stupid

Pan Removal Without pulling Engine.

www.thedieselstop.com

Remove oil pan while engine is still in the truck?

Has anybody here done this? I'm in the process of trying now. I unbolted the engine and transmission mounts and jacked it up until the downpipe and bell housing hit the firewall. It was almost enough, but it looks like I need a couple more inches. If I pull the downpipe, that might get me close...

www.powerstrokenation.com

 

[5030]

Not trying to prove you or anyone else wrong, I really don't care candidly. One thing I did do was I installed an aftermarket pan that was heavier gage than the stock Ford tinfoil pan.

 

[Deleted member 371759]

Some of the more dim even resort to cutting the cross member out and welding it back in... or not

Engine crossmember is cut!!

Hey y’all.... so I bought my first 7.3 2000 f250 super duty. I made the biggest mistake ever!! I purchased this truck from a “friend” it was night time when I went to buy truck and I let my guard down by thinking this person would do me decent. Welp oil started leaking a dayish later from oil...

www.powerstroke.org

 

[5030]

As a rule, I don't frequent powerstroke forums at all. Only forum I frequent is this one and a couple firearms forums and at least on those you can post political comments, unlike this one where you get your pee-pee slapped and posts deleted because this forum is run and moderated by liberals. Between the above and the censored words on here, sometimes I find this forum tedious at best.

 

[Deleted member 371759]

I dont belong or spend much time on those forms at all. I do belong to the FTE forums though. Tons of good info there. Also a pretty good group of guys with a lot of knowledge. I also belong to the Duramax forums but dont spend much time there at all.
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