Bear Trouble

[Rockbadchild]

Speaking of balls check out this old man

https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.3663954

 

[cqaigy2]

Holy cow!

See, you don't need either bear spray or gun.

 

[ultrarunner]

Around here it used to be that we only had a problem for a few weeks between when the bears came out of their dens and the berries started getting ripe and there was a good mast crop the previous fall...
...Now days with the price of honey...bee keepers from surrounding counties all bring their hives here for the Sourwood bloom that lasts into August...
With all the hives (protected with electric fences) the bears hang around...
The sad part is if you call wildlife they just tell you to stop putting bird seed out etc...meanwhile the bears tear up bbq grills and get into to feed bins etc...and wildlife won't do anything...but if a bee keeper has a problem with a bear they will come out and set a trap and remove the bear...!

AG use I guess?

The officer went through all the problems and every answer was no... no feeders, no pets, no garbage, no food, etc...

In today's SF Chronicle a large story about California attempts to reintroduce Grizzly bears after 100 years since last sighting...

According to the story it's the Feds that veto reintroduction.

There are groups with the goal of reintroducing bears and saying when there is a problem almost always the human at fault...

 

[Rockbadchild]

Holy cow!

See, you don't need either bear spray or gun.

lol y’a no just balls of steel !!

 

[ultrarunner]

Unfortunately it really depends on the specific animal and why they are attacking. Generalizations don't really work.


What about an electric fence around the place or common entry points?

When cabin is vacant all utilities off...

Not sure how to insure electric fence working when no there plus more reports of fires from malfunctioning fences...

Been in Tahoe since the 1930's and only recently having a problem with any wildlife...

 

[ultrarunner]

Anyone loaded for bear?

I would think a single 306 to the skull would drop a bear but not being a hunter or around hunters I have no idea?

 

[TIMMYDUCK]

I have a huge bear problem also .

Fish cops are the same out here .

No harassment of the wildlife .

 

[Torvy]

AG use I guess?

The officer went through all the problems and every answer was no... no feeders, no pets, no garbage, no food, etc...

In today's SF Chronicle a large story about California attempts to reintroduce Grizzly bears after 100 years since last sighting...

According to the story it's the Feds that veto reintroduction.

There are groups with the goal of reintroducing bears and saying when there is a problem almost always the human at fault...

I would be in favor of reintroducing large numbers of grizzly bears in the large cities of SF and LA.

 

[Rockbadchild]

Anyone loaded for bear?

I would think a single 306 to the skull would drop a bear but not being a hunter or around hunters I have no idea?

yes it would the issue it’s hitting the brain or the spin … see the brains is the size of a soft ball, the spine the size of a base ball and the head is the size of a beach ball and it’s a moving target a few inch off and mind as well calling it a miss

 

[bcp]

I wonder how a bear in the yard would react to a sudden opening of a tiger-face umbrella.



Bruce

 

[MossRoad]

A friend of mine in Vermont installed a motion sensing sprinkler in his garden to deter wildlife. He said it works great... even got his mother in-law.

 

[Raul-02]

And I'll admit, even though I pack a .357 sometimes, I'm not a good enough shot...

Oh sure you are. Just wait until it's got a good grip on you and ya can't miss.

 

[Raul-02]

tiger-face umbrella.

might not recognize it as anything in particular

 

[Raul-02]

If you hurt him he would be more incline to deliver more damage in return at this point its life or death for him.

I worked for a fellow who was a mechanical engineer from Belgium. He spent his younger years as a big game hunting guide in Africa. He claimed that you should always make sure the animals sees you when you shoot it. That way it will run away from what hurt. Shoot it from a blind spot and it might run you over. I don't think they had bears in Africa but they do have the big cats.

 

[shooterdon]

I have two solutions. Neither are PC.

Good luck, but based on your demeanor, I suggest you sell the place.

 

[ultrarunner]

Maybe why Law Enforcement says shooting in defense is a poor option if a kill shot to stop needs to be very accurately placed?

I was thinking it what the skull being near impervious to smaller calibers?

A homeowner that took several shots at a bear inside his home came under intense media pressure because he wounded the bear but then Fish and Game had to track it and put it down days later.

As a kid I was on the farm when cows and pigs were slaughter and it was a single pop and down like a ton of bricks.

 

[ultrarunner]

I have two solutions. Neither are PC.

Good luck, but based on your demeanor, I suggest you sell the place.

Not mine to sell… cabin belongs to mom and in the family since 1964…

As always a story behind it so don’t see selling in the picture unless taxes go crazy…

Besides where would I keep the 1957 boat that has not been legal to use in decades due to the two stroke ban… a part of my childhood that will never be forgotten when Dad let me drive!

 

[BoylermanCT]

I'd move to some place that has more common sense. Even in CT, which is quite liberal, DEP will put down a bear who breaks into homes. Happened a couple of weeks ago. Bear had two young cubs, and they put the momma bear down and relocated the cubs to a rehab shelter so they can be released into the wild once a little older.

 

[Rockbadchild]

I worked for a fellow who was a mechanical engineer from Belgium. He spent his younger years as a big game hunting guide in Africa. He claimed that you should always make sure the animals sees you when you shoot it. That way it will run away from what hurt. Shoot it from a blind spot and it might run you over. I don't think they had bears in Africa but they do have the big cats.

I can agree with that but that doesn't mean shooting it while its body is facing you, it just mean it has to acknowledge your presence or his head is looking at you, you always want to shoot a animal while its sideway so you can get the vitals the head is a risky target on any animals ....when you hear a story of someone that have miss their shot while trying to kill a animal they will pretty much always say the animal was in any other position then sideway.

 

[Rockbadchild]

Maybe why Law Enforcement says shooting in defense is a poor option if a kill shot to stop needs to be very accurately placed?

I was thinking it what the skull being near impervious to smaller calibers?

A homeowner that took several shots at a bear inside his home came under intense media pressure because he wounded the bear but then Fish and Game had to track it and put it down days later.

As a kid I was on the farm when cows and pigs were slaughter and it was a single pop and down like a ton of bricks.

My Dad would kill his cows with a .22 it took my dad a lot of time to know the exact spot to aim tho ... but you have to consider that the head was immobilize and the barrel was right against the head they were knock out rather then dead until he bleed them. A bear head is not as well armor and they have a bigger brain then the head of a cow but still a small target, still hard to say if you could kill a bear with a head shot with a .22 but definitely more chance with a shot in the vitals then a head shot.