A "which one to buy" thread

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John in AR

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We finally moved to our rural property and I'm looking into tractors. Been looking into them for quite a while, but am just now getting serious about pulling the trigger on one.

Fwiw, our situation - right at 40 acres, but only ~10 of it is cleared; the rest is scrub woods. Basically have ~2 acres of 'lawn' around the house and ~8 acres of field/pasture to bush hog. On the lawn near the house, still have our old 48" Deere riding mower that can do that no problem, so I'm okay without a finish mower on the new tractor, at least initially. I want to eventually put in some trails and maybe some cleared areas in the woods, for riding, shooting range, or whatever else. Not a ton, but it's something I'll need the tractor to do to one degree or another. I'm assuming a grapple (and therefore a third-function valve up front) would be almost a must-have, but that's just an assumption - there may be something better that I'm not aware of. On brush-hog, a 6' would be nice, but with the future trail-clearing work, I wonder if a smaller 5' hog with bigger cut-diameter rating might be a better idea. Not sure if HST is very important for our purposes; seems like a good idea, but never used one besides our current riding mower.

Initially I was intrigued by the B2601HST, largely probably because of all the youtube videos with them. Then I sat on one, and it was a deal-killer before even starting up the tractor. I wear size 15 shoes, and the rocker pedal (size and location both) was an immediate no-go for me personally. Just too small and too close. The dealer had an L3301 and it was a little better, but still didn't really like it. I went to a New Holland dealer in the same town and was surprised to see a few Kioti's there. I'd never looked into a Kioti, and checked out a CK3510 and a Workmaster 25(?) there; of the two I was much more comfortable on the CK3510, and am leaning that direction at this point. Neither dealer is particularly close to us, both 45 minutes away or so. Can't really define the 'why' of it, but for whatever reason, the CK was the most comfortable of the new tractors I've tried, all of which have only been briefly.

Basically, looking for guidance, ideas, and pitfalls of the Kioti compared to the New Holland, and is the Kubota enough 'better' that it would be worth the reduced physical comfort?
 
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Since you wear a size 15 shoe I think you'll be better off to sit on all flavors and whichever one fits you best is the one you need. Today, they are all pretty good brands truth be told.
 
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I went to a New Holland dealer in the same town and was surprised to see a few Kioti's there. I'd never looked into a Kioti, and checked out a CK3510 and a Workmaster 25(?) there; of the two I was much more comfortable on the CK3510, and am leaning that direction at this point. Neither dealer is particularly close to us, both 45 minutes away or so. Can't really define the 'why' of it, but for whatever reason, the CK was the most comfortable of the new tractors I've tried, all of which have only been briefly.

Basically, looking for guidance, ideas, and pitfalls of the Kioti compared to the New Holland,

If you're looking at smaller NH models, look at LS who makes those NH models. LS is identical to NH except for the lighter blue paint and much lower prices. My 13s fit the pedals of my MT 125 (same machine as the Workmaster 25) just fine , but I seem to have a knee clearance problem with the left side brake pedal. For some reason I haven't figured out yet, my left knee hurts after being on the machine for longer periods.
 
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Not sure how much you are wanting to spend, but the Kubota Grand series has more room than the L2601.

As far as is the value worth it, since I haven't owned the others, can't speak towards the value, but if you are going to be using something alot, you want it to be usable and part of that usability is comfort.
 
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All - thanks for the replies.

Shaneard, really not much difference (reliably/functionally) nowadays? I've not run a tractor much since leaving the farm nearly 40 years ago.

Digginit, thanks for the LS tip. I knew there was a lot of cross-manufacturing in the market, but didn't know those were actually the same tractor.

BRMyers - I was assuming the Grand L series might be a bit big for trail-clearing in the woods.


Any thoughts on HST vs geared, or implement selection? Rotary cutter size vs. cutting diameter, grapple brands, things like that? Thanks again
 
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Any thoughts on HST vs geared,

What I've picked up on here is that HST is better for positioning things, FEL, pallet fork work, snow removal, etc. where you're changing direction or speed frequently. Geared is better for longer runs of plowing, disk work, larger rotary cutter work in fields, etc. where you're moving in the same direction and speed.
 
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John, I think they are all about the same. It's like Ford, Chevy, Dodge, etc. they all have some things that are different but they all do the same thing. Get what is comfortable and roll on is what I say.
 
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We finally moved to our rural property and I'm looking into tractors. Been looking into them for quite a while, but am just now getting serious about pulling the trigger on one.

Fwiw, our situation - right at 40 acres, but only ~10 of it is cleared; the rest is scrub woods. Basically have ~2 acres of 'lawn' around the house and ~8 acres of field/pasture to bush hog. On the lawn near the house, still have our old 48" Deere riding mower that can do that no problem, so I'm okay without a finish mower on the new tractor, at least initially. I want to eventually put in some trails and maybe some cleared areas in the woods, for riding, shooting range, or whatever else. Not a ton, but it's something I'll need the tractor to do to one degree or another. I'm assuming a grapple (and therefore a third-function valve up front) would be almost a must-have, but that's just an assumption - there may be something better that I'm not aware of. On brush-hog, a 6' would be nice, but with the future trail-clearing work, I wonder if a smaller 5' hog with bigger cut-diameter rating might be a better idea. Not sure if HST is very important for our purposes; seems like a good idea, but never used one besides our current riding mower.

Initially I was intrigued by the B2601HST, largely probably because of all the youtube videos with them. Then I sat on one, and it was a deal-killer before even starting up the tractor. I wear size 15 shoes, and the rocker pedal (size and location both) was an immediate no-go for me personally. Just too small and too close. The dealer had an L3301 and it was a little better, but still didn't really like it. I went to a New Holland dealer in the same town and was surprised to see a few Kioti's there. I'd never looked into a Kioti, and checked out a CK3510 and a Workmaster 25(?) there; of the two I was much more comfortable on the CK3510, and am leaning that direction at this point. Neither dealer is particularly close to us, both 45 minutes away or so. Can't really define the 'why' of it, but for whatever reason, the CK was the most comfortable of the new tractors I've tried, all of which have only been briefly.

Basically, looking for guidance, ideas, and pitfalls of the Kioti compared to the New Holland, and is the Kubota enough 'better' that it would be worth the reduced physical comfort?

I have property similar to yours. About 45 acres, 3 acres around house the rest trees. For the past 2 months I have been making trails but I have tall trees. I rented a skid steer to see if that would work but got it stuck (10,000 lbs). I have been using a small L3301 Kubota with HST. The small tractor has been great, allowing me to move between trees and minimize my need to use a chainsaw.
 
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I've not had an issue with mine when it has coming to clearing. Although many wouldn't want a cab in the woods, I prefer the cab to take the beating than me. (You don't have to get the Grand series with a cab.)
 
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I didn't look at the New Holland's. I bought a Kioti 3510 over the Kubota and am very happy with it. I recomend the SE, it has some nice extra features. I think HST is preferred and the SE has cruise control if you doing some major field work.
Mine handles a 65" Woods box blade with no problems. I think it would do fine with a 6' rotary cutter. I'm leaning towards a flail mower myself. I had a W.R. Long 3rd function installed and am on the list for an EA wicked grapple, still about 6 weeks away.

As for service mine blew a hydraulic seal a 10 hrs. Dealer was out within 24 hrs and fixed it in 45 minutes.
Ultimately what's your feeling on talking with the dealers and who's going to give you good knowledgeable support. You are buying a tractor and a relationship with the dealer/service.
 

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