A backup camera for $50!!!!!!!!!!!

[George2615]

Where is that global warming? Waxman has snow in July.

Installed my monitor and backup camera in the truck today. Also works very well.

 

[chim]

............................Are those lines adjustable? I see they taper is there a way to adjust them?
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They are just kinda resident on the screen. I wanted to mess with it today but had way too much manual labor to do. Since the camera has a wide angle, I want to swing it up a little so I can see cars coming up behind me. Stopped by TBN while I cool down a little. Hate to get a shower while still overheated and step out still sweating right away.

 

[MinnesotaEric]

I flipped on the monitor and rear camera today and the camera that isn't supposed to have lines, has lines. :thumb down:

Bench test these things before installing them.

 

[94BULLITT]

My camera and monitor arrived today. It was only a few days ago that I placed the order. Installation was quick and easy and it works fine. I only began mowing at 8:00 this evening, but there was a good 45 minutes of decent light. When it got dark and I kicked the LED's on the picture had a little washout because of the bright lights. Here's a pic with normal but fading daylight. I already managed to use the camera to back the deck in between the mailbox post and an adjacent utility pole.

I bet the camera is nice for mowing.

Picture looks good chim, very acceptable.
I'm glad you guys are finally seeing the value of a backup camera. Thanks to BUILLTT showing there is another way with this thread. A low cost way, Still hard to believe the 28.00 price of that monitor. If you have a cab you're missing out if you don have a camera.
Are those lines adjustable? I see they taper is there a way to adjust them?


I have an older backup camera not made anymore and not the best quality for this day and time,but one thing I like and why I bought it for my b3030 back in 2008 It's a 2002 camera and I found it again on ebay for my 3240 last year. What I like about it is the ability to adjust the lines to the width of my tires and project the lines out eight feet, blue line 8ft, yellow 6ft, red line 2ft. but you can adjust anyway you want. There is a chart you layout behind the tractor to adjust the lines. Or you can just mark out the distance.

When the line is the width of the tires it gives you a look of where your tires will be between two poles or something. As shown in this video the width of my cut in the snow you can also see it your going off track.

I gave up a little bit of quality on the camera but I really like the use of the lines. The rear camera also has 4 adjustable views, One looks just straight down to your tires as if your hooking up an implement, other, a wide angle without lines and the view you see here with and without the lines.
I made a video this past winter to show the value of using the backup camera versus your mirrors when your in the snow and rain.
Its best to watch in FULL screen. at 1080p

I think the lines are built into the camera.

I like how the lines are adjustable on yours and you have 4 different views.

Where is that global warming? Waxman has snow in July.

Installed my monitor and backup camera in the truck today. Also works very well.

It sounds like you are hooked up now. Backup cameras are great for hooking up to trailers.

http://youtu.be/O9HpWgJCDIw?list=UUfZecx081YCkV19RSWCLlWw

 

[Deerherd]

You got a good deal, like you said the cameras are worth that. The 9 inch monitor is supposed to be pretty good, I think you will be happy.

Well I got the AgCam hooked up today and the monitor is poor at best. There is a nice feature set, split screens, add lines, toggle between cameras etc, but the resolution on the monitor really stinks. If I had paid $1600 I would be furious, now I'm just pissed. The 9" is probably WORSE than the 7", same resolution with a larger screen. Don't waste your money on the AgCam monitor like I did.

 

[Threepoint]

Roger, thanks for this thread. Looks like you've started a run on that Amazon monitor link. I just ordered mine and the camera, and now they're showing only two monitors left.

I'm going to hold off ordering a mounting system for now. Are you still happy with your windshield suction mount? I'm wondering how secure it will be over the long haul, since I'm not likely to remove and reattach it from time to time as I might with an automobile GPS mount. Eric's idea of mounting with a bar mount on the hand rail seems pretty secure. Looking forward to hearing how that turns out.

 

[WaxMan]

Well I got the AgCam hooked up today and the monitor is poor at best. There is a nice feature set, split screens, add lines, toggle between cameras etc, but the resolution on the monitor really stinks. If I had paid $1600 I would be furious, now I'm just pissed. The 9" is probably WORSE than the 7", same resolution with a larger screen. Don't waste your money on the AgCam monitor like I did.

Disappointing I know. That much money for a low quality monitor. You can adjust the setting, color, sharpness, contrast etc. The problem I had with the 7 inch monitor is when you adjust it for a good picture, then the picture shakes. Called AgCam they don't care sent me another doing the same thing.

 

[94BULLITT]

Roger, thanks for this thread. Looks like you've started a run on that Amazon monitor link. I just ordered mine and the camera, and now they're showing only two monitors left.

I'm going to hold off ordering a mounting system for now. Are you still happy with your windshield suction mount? I'm wondering how secure it will be over the long haul, since I'm not likely to remove and reattach it from time to time as I might with an automobile GPS mount. Eric's idea of mounting with a bar mount on the hand rail seems pretty secure. Looking forward to hearing how that turns out.

No problem.

Yes, I am still happy with the mount. I probably have 12 hours on the setup. The suction cup itself is very sticky then it has a latch to draw it tight to the glass. I chose to mount the monitor on the dash so I glance straight down to see to behind me. The monitor comes with a mount but it would not work for my application. Ram mount has some nicer suction cup mounts. I'd be concerned about the vibration from slamming the door with the monitor mounted on the door handle.

 

[lostcreekranch]

No problem. Yes, I am still happy with the mount. I probably have 12 hours on the setup. The suction cup itself is very sticky then it has a latch to draw it tight to the glass. I chose to mount the monitor on the dash so I glance straight down to see to behind me. The monitor comes with a mount but it would not work for my application. Ram mount has some nicer suction cup mounts. I'd be concerned about the vibration from slamming the door with the monitor mounted on the door handle.

Roger;

Ordered monitor and camera from Amazon this morning. Since monitor has two inputs will mount one camera on FEL for better view when using pallet forks, etc. 2nd camera will be used for rear view and like your idea of mounting it inside cab. Thanks for sharing this.

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[Deerherd]

Disappointing I know. That much money for a low quality monitor. You can adjust the setting, color, sharpness, contrast etc. The problem I had with the 7 inch monitor is when you adjust it for a good picture, then the picture shakes. Called AgCam they don't care sent me another doing the same thing.

Waxman,

The $500 AgCam monitor has the same 480v resolution that Roger's $30 monitor has, but with a 500:1 contrast ratio. Seeing posted screen shots there seems to be little difference between the two to me.

Before sinking any more money into a good HD monitor like you purchased that has 1200v lines, does it give you a noticeably clearer picture with the AgCam cameras? They are only 540v resolution and I'm thinking until I could find a camera that could match that resolution of your monitor, I might wait.

Also did you have to do any splicing to make the AgCam cameras work with the new monitor? Thanks!

Great thread.

 

[94BULLITT]

Roger;

Ordered monitor and camera from Amazon this morning. Since monitor has two inputs will mount one camera on FEL for better view when using pallet forks, etc. 2nd camera will be used for rear view and like your idea of mounting it inside cab. Thanks for sharing this.

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No problem, I hope you like the stuff. One thing I keep forgetting to mention is with the camera mounted on the inside sometimes it picks up a reflection from the glass. It is mainly when it starts to get dark and I don't have my rear work lights on. When it turn the lights on it is fine. Sometimes I will get a reflection from the glass in the day if the sun hits it just right but that is very rare. You may want to test it to be sure you are happy with it like that. I'm happy with the way my camera is mounted but YMMV.

Waxman,

The $500 AgCam monitor has the same 480v resolution that Roger's $30 monitor has, but with a 500:1 contrast ratio. Seeing posted screen shots there seems to be little difference between the two to me.

Before sinking any more money into a good HD monitor like you purchased that has 1200v lines, does it give you a noticeably clearer picture with the AgCam cameras? They are only 540v resolution and I'm thinking until I could find a camera that could match that resolution of your monitor, I might wait.

Also did you have to do any splicing to make the AgCam cameras work with the new monitor? Thanks!

Great thread.

Could you get a picture of the problem you are having with the monitor?

Let us know what you get to replace the agcam.

How do the cameras hook up to the agcam? My camera uses a yellow A/V cable like a the inputs and out puts on a tv.

 

[MinnesotaEric]

I decided that since I was ordering another (lineless) camera, I'd try a camera with more TV lines. I found a lens on a chip 600 TV line camera for $13.00.

Amazon.com : ePathChinaｮ 500 Mega Pixel Smallest Button Pinhole Spy Video Camera Mini Hidden Camera with 600TVL 1 / 4" HD Sensor Support Video and Audio Output TV Standard - NTSC : Camera & Photo

But this camera will smoke at anything above 12 volts and so an inline inverter steps battery voltage down to 6 volts.

Amazon.com: VvW DC Waterproof Step Down Converter 9-23v 12V to 6V 18W 3A Power Supply Module: Home Improvement

I'll report my findings when I get my junk back together (eventually).

Detail of monitor mount.

Example of monitor in and out of direct sunlight.

 

[Deerherd]

Could you get a picture of the problem you are having with the monitor?

Let us know what you get to replace the agcam.

How do the cameras hook up to the agcam? My camera uses a yellow A/V cable like a the inputs and out puts on a tv.

Not sure if I have a bonafide "problem" other than image quality of a $599 monitor versus one for $28. To be totally fair it does have some nice features. Up to 4 cameras, time and date on screen, split screen, automated switching with programmable intervals, lines that can be turned on or off etc. Not sure how many of them I will use, but they are there.

The cameras themselves seem pretty bulletproof and are waterproof including all connections so I would list them as a positive. But I'm not sure if I had a better HD capable monitor that these standard def cameras would look any better. 10 years ago these would be sweet! Maybe my expectations were a little high considering the difference in price.

Here are some screen shots and a picture of the cable connection.

 

[WaxMan]

Waxman,

The $500 AgCam monitor has the same 480v resolution that Roger's $30 monitor has, but with a 500:1 contrast ratio. Seeing posted screen shots there seems to be little difference between the two to me.

Before sinking any more money into a good HD monitor like you purchased that has 1200v lines, does it give you a noticeably clearer picture with the AgCam cameras? They are only 540v resolution and I'm thinking until I could find a camera that could match that resolution of your monitor, I might wait.

Also did you have to do any splicing to make the AgCam cameras work with the new monitor? Thanks!

Great thread.

I bought an AgCam adaptor to convert their plug to RCA but it came with a 12 volt power supply also. Only way you can get it.

The resolution was fine on the 7 inch, a nice smooth picture but washed out and dull. In my opinion. So the more you adjust the color the more it would shake. It looked good once adjusted but the picture would shake.
So nice green grass would be moving in the monitor turn the color down and it would stop. They said is was because of the quad monitor stuffed into a 7 inch case.
I could not fit the 9 inch monitor on top of my gauges so they sent me another new 7 inch, it was better but I wanted something better then that.
They said the 9 inch did not shake in there tests. The 7 inch non quad monitor did shake a little less but the 9 inch according to them did not shack at all.
What is wrong with your picture? Did you try to adjust it? The resolution should be fine. When I say that I mean the pixels are very close together my 7 inch was good in that regard.
Use your adjustments, that monitor should work well. If it does not I would contact AgCam and complain, have them send you another. They told me the 9 inch was fine.

Just want to say it again, I think people should buy the cheaper monitor and see if its good enough, because you can buy a more expensive one and be disappointed.

 

[94BULLITT]

I decided that since I was ordering another (lineless) camera, I'd try a camera with more TV lines. I found a lens on a chip 600 TV line camera for $13.00.

Amazon.com : ePathChinaｮ 500 Mega Pixel Smallest Button Pinhole Spy Video Camera Mini Hidden Camera with 600TVL 1 / 4" HD Sensor Support Video and Audio Output TV Standard - NTSC : Camera & Photo

But this camera will smoke at anything above 12 volts and so an inline inverter steps battery voltage down to 6 volts.

Amazon.com: VvW DC Waterproof Step Down Converter 9-23v 12V to 6V 18W 3A Power Supply Module: Home Improvement

I'll report my findings when I get my junk back together (eventually).

Detail of monitor mount.

Example of monitor in and out of direct sunlight.

I'll be interested to see how the cameras compare to each other. I'm wondering how a wireless camera would work.

That is a nice mount.

Not sure if I have a bonafide "problem" other than image quality of a $599 monitor versus one for $28. To be totally fair it does have some nice features. Up to 4 cameras, time and date on screen, split screen, automated switching with programmable intervals, lines that can be turned on or off etc. Not sure how many of them I will use, but they are there.

The cameras themselves seem pretty bulletproof and are waterproof including all connections so I would list them as a positive. But I'm not sure if I had a better HD capable monitor that these standard def cameras would look any better. 10 years ago these would be sweet! Maybe my expectations were a little high considering the difference in price.

Here are some screen shots and a picture of the cable connection.

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The monitor does sound like it has some nice features. Hopefully you can adjust the settings like Waxman suggested and get the picture quality to improve.

 

[94BULLITT]

Has anybody used the blue wire on their monitor? I did not have a use for it since I only have 1 camera. I'm not sure if the blue is used for turning the monitor on when the vehicle is in reverse or it changes the channel when the vehicle is reverse. IDK how it works but if the blue wire changes channels when the vehicle is in reverse it would be nice for those of you with a FEL cam and backup cam. You could keep it on the FEL cam when you were doing loader work and it would automatically switch channels.

 

[MinnesotaEric]

Has anybody used the blue wire on their monitor? I did not have a use for it since I only have 1 camera. I'm not sure if the blue is used for turning the monitor on when the vehicle is in reverse or it changes the channel when the vehicle is reverse. IDK how it works but if the blue wire changes channels when the vehicle is in reverse it would be nice for those of you with a FEL cam and backup cam. You could keep it on the FEL cam when you were doing loader work and it would automatically switch channels.

The blue wire is for reverse sensing. I taped my blue wire off. To have the monitor flip to the reverse camera hook it up to anything that gets 12v in reverse only.

 

[94BULLITT]

The blue wire is for reverse sensing. I taped my blue wire off. To have the monitor flip to the reverse camera hook it up to anything that gets 12v in reverse only.

Does it turn the monitor on or switch channels?

 

[Threepoint]

Has anybody used the blue wire on their monitor? I did not have a use for it since I only have 1 camera. I'm not sure if the blue is used for turning the monitor on when the vehicle is in reverse or it changes the channel when the vehicle is reverse. IDK how it works but if the blue wire changes channels when the vehicle is in reverse it would be nice for those of you with a FEL cam and backup cam. You could keep it on the FEL cam when you were doing loader work and it would automatically switch channels.

Roger, I have that monitor, and my understanding from reading through the many Amazon reviews is that the blue wire is intended to connect to the vehicle's backup-light circuit to automatically switch video to the rear camera when shifting into reverse (not turn on the monitor). Your idea is a very good one for FEL work. :thumbsup: I don't know if many compact utility tractors come with a backup-light circuit, but if the tractor has a backup warning beeper, the blue could connect to that.

 

[lostcreekranch]

Has anybody used the blue wire on their monitor? I did not have a use for it since I only have 1 camera. I'm not sure if the blue is used for turning the monitor on when the vehicle is in reverse or it changes the channel when the vehicle is reverse. IDK how it works but if the blue wire changes channels when the vehicle is in reverse it would be nice for those of you with a FEL cam and backup cam. You could keep it on the FEL cam when you were doing loader work and it would automatically switch channels.

My monitor and camera arrived late last Friday afternoon and I bench tested with a 12 volt battery in my shop Saturday. I will install first camera on front of tractor to get a better view of grapple, bucket, pallet forks etc. I did not get a chance to figure out how to use the blue (backup) wire. The instructions with camera and monitor that I received were all but useless. Maybe they missed sending the real instructions? I had to pretty much guess how to hook everything up so don't have a clue on how blue wire works. Think I will be happy to just select Camera 1 or Camera 2 from monitor controls.

I plan to create a temporary (maybe permanent?) magnetic mount so, I can find optimal location for front camera to achieve best view while giving camera some protection. Ordered a windshield mount today with 1/4-20 screw for mounting monitor in cab. Should receive it Friday. My plan is to mount it in upper middle of windshield which should help with outside light reflection, etc.

I also ordered monitor and camera from Amazon but, did not see if there was a way to order a second camera from same vendor? The rear looking 2nd camera will start out installed inside cab for protection and to keep it clean. Back of tractor gets pretty dirty during dry times.






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