2-cycle oil ratios?

[Dan Hunter]

Though this runs contrary to an earlier post, I do believe that running more oil than prescribed makes the engine run leaner and be more likely to detonate. Running less oil makes an engine more likely to seize due to inappropriate lubrication.

Why not mark your tools and tanks prominently and use the proper mixture...give the carb what it's designed to atomize...get the manufacturer's expected performance...properly lubricate?

 

[DK35vince]

I have a sting trimmer that calls for 16;1, a chainsaw that calls for 32:1, a Mantis tiller and another string trimmer that calls for 50:1
I run them all at 50:1.

 

[ultrarunner]

Seems a lot do the same... one modern 50 to 1 mix and good to go.

 

[MossRoad]

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Why not mark your tools and tanks prominently and use the proper mixture......

Because the issue is having too many gas cans sitting around and how to get it down to fewer cans.

 

[MossRoad]

Seems a lot do the same... one modern 50 to 1 mix and good to go.

Don't do it in your vintage stuff.... you'll have no way of measuring any wear in the engine until its too late. Let's face it, not too many people on TBN have 70+ year old two-strokes. You want to be the guinea pig?

 

[Sysop]

Because the issue is having too many gas cans sitting around and how to get it down to fewer cans.

I think the issue is folk not planning their purchases. Anytime I shop for a piece of 2 cycle hardware I make sure it uses the same gas as other stuff I have. I have two cans of 2 cycle fuel. If storing 2 cans is too much hassle I really feel sorry for you. If you need more than two cans, I think you are a bad planner.

How to get it to fewer cans is to retire the worst of the worst and plan future purchases accordingly.

 

[ultrarunner]

It could be a California thing...

The only 2 cycle equipment available to purchase is 50 to 1 mix... no way around that and it has been this way for a long time.

I take care of my equipment... thus I have old cars and old 2 cycle motors still growing strong.

The Echo SRM300 I paid $375 for in 1982 is 20 to 1.

My Craftsman Power Sharp Saw circa 1972 is was over $250 and is 16 to 1.

Just because technology changes doesn't mean something bought at great cost 30 years ago isn't still doing the job...

My question was more about wanting to know if the lubrication properties for the new mixes is such that less can be used safely...

Gasoline gets old here and having 6 containers of different mixes does pose it's own problems... and more because I don't have that many non-carb gas cans!

 

[MossRoad]

I think the issue is folk not planning their purchases. Anytime I shop for a piece of 2 cycle hardware I make sure it uses the same gas as other stuff I have. I have two cans of 2 cycle fuel. If storing 2 cans is too much hassle I really feel sorry for you. If you need more than two cans, I think you are a bad planner.

How to get it to fewer cans is to retire the worst of the worst and plan future purchases accordingly.

Did you even read the original poster's comments as to why he has so many mixtures???

 

[Sysop]

Just because technology changes doesn't mean something bought at great cost 30 years ago isn't still doing the job...

You're absolutely correct. You either pay for things to become simplified or you deal with them as they are. If you want the convenience of one or two cans, you gotta pay for it. Running the wrong mix is not a solution like so many are claiming it to be...

 

[Sysop]

Did you even read the original poster's comments as to why he has so many mixtures???

Yes, I have, but my comment (as shown by the quote in my post) was directed at a comment MossRoad (you) had said.

You said "how to get to fewer cans" to which my reply was "plan the future purchases"

 

[KubotaToy]

:stirthepot: This is getting almost as good as a "which oil is the best" thread.

 

[MossRoad]

:stirthepot: This is getting almost as good as a "which oil is the best" thread.

Paper or plastic?

 

[KevT]

What the heck, let me throw my 2 cents in and really get guys fired up... As to the gas, I only use "Marine gas" It won't gel in the tank or carbs. As far as oil goes I buy the little bottles that go with 1 gal of gas to give you 50-1. Don't trust my eyes to measure. As far as tools... No I don't have any vintage tools so I am no help there. If I can't get 4 stroke motor, then they are al 50-1. 3 chain saws (14" 16" 20") 2 pole saws (8' 12') are the only 2 stroke I have. Weed wacker, mower, generator, edger, blower, pressure washer are all 4 stroke

 

[ultrarunner]

Looks like a clear division...

Those that say follow manufacturer's instructions infinitem.... and those that use newer formulations and now deviate or have updated the fuel ratio due to the new synthetics now available...

I know with my Model A's that I run stock... 40 weight non-detergent with oil change every 500 miles is by the book... and don't know anyone with a rebuilt stock motor that uses 40 weight or non-detergent or changes oil at the 500 mile interval with the reason being oil today bears little resemblance to oil 85 years ago.

It's easy enough to mix the 20 to 1 and depending on what's left add enough fuel to bring the ratio closer to 50 to 1

 

[MossRoad]

Looks like a clear division...

Those that say follow manufacturer's instructions infinitem.... and those that use newer formulations and now deviate or have updated the fuel ratio due to the new synthetics now available...

I know with my Model A's that I run stock... 40 weight non-detergent with oil change every 500 miles is by the book... and don't know anyone with a rebuilt stock motor that uses 40 weight or non-detergent or changes oil at the 500 mile interval with the reason being oil today bears little resemblance to oil 85 years ago.

It's easy enough to mix the 20 to 1 and depending on what's left add enough fuel to bring the ratio closer to 50 to 1

Then you won't have much to store and fewer cans. :thumbsup:

 

[ultrarunner]

My plan was to spend the day with the brush cutter... all ready to go.

Tenant called and said the toilet is cracked so I had to drop everything and head to the rental... it's toast so will need to swap it out in the morning...

You know the story about the best made plans... it's been months since I had any tractor time~!

 

[Sodo]

My plan was to spend the day with the brush cutter... all ready to go.

"Ready to go" with a 7 1/4" carbide skilsaw blade?

 

[MossRoad]

My plan was to spend the day with the brush cutter... all ready to go.

Tenant called and said the toilet is cracked so I had to drop everything and head to the rental... it's toast so will need to swap it out in the morning...

You know the story about the best made plans... it's been months since I had any tractor time~!

Well, that stinks....

 

[moriboy]

I've run 50:1 (ethanol free) in everything for many years without any problems.

 

[ultrarunner]

Ethanol Free is something I need to import...

Greetings from one Oakland resident to another... Oakland California to Oakland Oregon.

Always wanted to check out Oakland Oregon... one of these days.

Looks like a nice part of the country where a person can still buy acreage.