Making gas cans great again

[GWagon]

The fix:

https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/ez-pour-hi-flo-replacement-spout-1053258

In stock at Rural King for everyone lucky enough to be near one. They're also available on Amazon. The price is usually about the same no matter where you purchase.

 

[dkmc]

I recently bought a racing style can at Atwoods and it works really well. I think it was a knockoff of the VP Racing and was only $28. It had a vent. Probably only a matter of time until I lose the threaded cap though.
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I've got 8 of those, U jug or Utility Jug brand. Buy them at Runnings when on sale for $19.99.
I have the white translucent ones for diesel and/or gas because you can see how much is in them.
Handy when filling them. Don't need the VP or Sunoco stickers for the extra $8 thanks. Never used a 'safety' fuel can, never gonna.

Home Page - Runnings

www.runnings.com

I've also bought the yellow push in vent caps for some 5 gallon buckets, usually hyd oil empties, they work well also.

 

[papalynn]

I bought a gas pump for less than $14 at harbor freight and find that is the easiest way to transfer gas to a gas tank.

Just put the big end into the 5 gallon gas can and the hose in the gas tank and push the button. You can watch the gas level rise and stop the gas flow by pushing the button again. I use it for gas and diesel fuel. Requires 2 C cell batteries but lasts a long time. With this, you don't have to lift 40 lbs can and pour gas.

 

[RayIN]

With the current administration, I don't think they would be making things harder. We will see, but I am certain the end result will be to get rid of the crappy designs we have now.

This topic is one of the reasons I like the quotes by Ronald Reagan
“The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help.”
― Ronald Reagan

“Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves.”
― Ronald Reagan

 

[RayIN]

These are good, if you can't grab a used 5 gallon DEF nozzle left by the trash.

Problem is you still need a vent.

I've used this on more than a couple of cans.

Amazon.com

Immediately when seeing these "vents", I thought- how do you insert it from inside the can? how do you hold the inside when tightening the retaining nut?

 

[TractorTYMe]

I am still a believer in that we need to remove all nannies and warning labels of WHAT NOT TO DO on machinery and devices, and let Darwinism figure it out!

 

[Engineer42]

Almost makes me hope that they will get rid of DEF next!!!!

But then there will be all those unemployed cats

 

[Torvy]

The companies, sadly, are unlikely to make any significant changes. The rules will change again in 3 years and they will be left holding the cans.

The only way this gets fixed is for Congress to pass a law restoring common sense.

Tractors are too few in number and geographically spread out to a degree that emissions requirements do nothing...except increase cost and frustration.

 

[thankyouTBN]

absolutely. I’ve purchased two sets of eight nozzles for my old style gas cans, and they all absolutely suck. The flange at the bottom of the nozzle IS actually too small! It destroys the rubber gasket and then it leaks. There AREN'T ANY on Amazon that are proper size. (they are all 1.5 inches. I think they absolutely have to be at least 1.75 inches) I think the only way to replace a damaged nozzle on the gas can is to buy a complete new gas can. That absolutely sucks!

I've not seen one of those "push-in vents" that come with the new nozzles that didn't leak. And half the time the threads on the replacement nozzle don't match my gas cans.

 

[Torvy]

Odd. Mine worked perfectly. Next time I'm in the barn, I'll look for the details.

 

[thankyouTBN]

Personally, I think it was very well intentioned. As a kid around 1967 another kid that I knew was very badly burned by gasoline. It’s a miracle my brother and I didn’t also get burned because we used to mess around with gasoline all the time. In those days, children didn’t have 24 seven supervision. I really do they could invent a completely child proof cap that functions perfectly as a pour spout. Seems like they made two attempts and both were dismal failures.

 

[Tru-lefty]

I bought a larger pack of similar nozzles and caps from amazon a while back.

Behold the beautiful options available

Just drill a hole and stick an eight penny galvanized nail in it. Remove the nail before you pour replace when finished.

 

[RayIN]

The companies, sadly, are unlikely to make any significant changes. The rules will change again in 3 years and they will be left holding the cans.

The only way this gets fixed is for Congress to pass a law restoring common sense.

Tractors are too few in number and geographically spread out to a degree that emissions requirements do nothing...except increase cost and frustration.

Yep, and no airplane engine is required to even have an old-style muffler, let alone emission controls. As to 3 years, perhaps the socialist party will not win.

 

[Runner]

Instead of whining about government and buying new nozzles, I put vents in all my unvented cans.

Drill a 1/2" hole and install a tire valve. Amazon.com

Remove the Schrader valve, run a 12-14" piece of baling wire through, and make a hook at the end. Make a slight bow in the entire length of wire. Remove the nozzle and run the wire through the opening and carefully pull the valve stem up through the drilled hole until it's seated.

They don't leak but, if you're a belt-and-suspenders guy, you could put some sealant at the base of the stem where it contacts the can.

Quick and cheap. The can in the foreground, like many cans, has a flat spot tailor-made for a vent, where the manufacturer used old molds with vents.

I like the tire valve idea, but would be concerned that gas would adversely affect the rubber.

 

[Merck]

Thank you for your attention to this matter!

Make Gas Cans Great Again by Improving Flow | US EPA

Today, U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) issued letters to portable fuel container (PFC or gas can) manufacturers encouraging them to add vents to gas cans to ensure safe and effective refueling.

www.epa.gov

You can get a spout from EZ pour to replace the ones on the new cans. The kit comes with a vent you can put in also. Just drill a 1/2 inch hole. But put some silicone on it before you push it in. I have found they tend to leak. These spouts are illegal on cans manufactured I think after 2009 but who is going to know. I have mostly old cans but I have a couple I have put the EZ Pour spout on. The spouts come either a half inch opening or a one inch depending on how fast you want to pour. They are of excellent quality and I have had no problems with them. Cheap 2.5 gallon can now is almost $20 at Wal Mart.

 

[350c]

Plastic vent caps are readily available on Amazon to install a traditional vent. No screw to lose.

And probably made in China. And from I’m seeing here, some leak. My screw doesn’t. If I lose it, I have several spares…

 

[RB5]

I have spilled way more gas with those stupid spring loaded nozzles what you had to push onto the rim of the fuel tank opening than I ever did with the old style vented cans. I made a real mess when the cheaply made and badly designed spring broke. Now I have the 5 gallon push button version. You have to be in pretty good shape to hold that can up long enough for it to empty. It takes forever. Same problem with low flow faucets where it takes longer to fill something or forever to rinse off the soap. Stupid
ideas.

 

[RB5]

A lot of these young people that have never used a real vented high flow gas can are probably going to spill gas everywhere if they are not careful when they get the new vented cans.

 

[Grumpycat]

But then there will be all those unemployed cats

What unemployed cats?

Deleting DPF will eliminate the need for the SCR which isn't quite the same thing as a gasoline catalyst.