Stove Pipe

   / Stove Pipe #41  
I'm sure there are variations of approved underground pipe for gas...

My last install required a pipe that was coated in a yellow plastic wrap over a almost tar like coating...

I was replacing with a permit 50 year old black iron that rusted out and found by the odor and sound of gas escaping...
Going to be putting a large propane tank in they are specing poly coated copper for the direct bury.
 
   / Stove Pipe #44  
Once the natural gas heater is up and running, we will then shift our focus to insulation.
When we had our house built about 18 years ago we left the basement unfinished. I wanted to save money and do the insulation myself. However, it turned out that hiring a crew to do the insulation was less expensive than me buying insulation. I was shocked. Their price, including the insulation, was cheaper than me buying insulation. I guess they buy so much insulation that they get a much better price than I could.
Eric
 
   / Stove Pipe #45  
Might want to look into gas flex instead.
Per the installer that came out to look over the site and take the info back to get me an estimate no go up here by code.
I'm not sure if that is the case or they just don't care to work with it.
 
   / Stove Pipe #48  
Interesting. Around here it's bare flexible copper line.
There is a 1950's subdivision the same same... all soft copper.

I had to use the coated black pipe inside the city.
 
   / Stove Pipe #49  
Interesting. Around here it's bare flexible copper line.
All of our direct burial has to be a sheathed and vented product, such as TracPipe PS-II. Very expensive stuff.

I have 3" conduit from our gas regulator to the house, outside fireplace, and grill, and they used to allow regular poly-coated stainless (eg. TracPipe CounterStrike) in that. But since the line is buried for about 2 feet between the risers and the start of the conduit, we had to upgrade to PS-II on the most recent inspections.

The damn stuff is so expensive, it made stove pipe look cheap! I think it was over $1800 for 100 feet of line, pulled through existing conduit.
 
   / Stove Pipe #50  
Per the installer that came out to look over the site and take the info back to get me an estimate no go up here by code.
I'm not sure if that is the case or they just don't care to work with it.
It is NFPA (code) approved. Most likely they’ve never used it so therefore….it’s no good. w/e
 
   / Stove Pipe #51  
There is a 1950's subdivision the same same... all soft copper.

I had to use the coated black pipe inside the city.
I don't live in the city and won't live in any city for that matter. One, I don't like neighbors in close proximity and Two, you cannot farm in the city.
 
   / Stove Pipe #52  
Good to know. Thank you for the responses thus far.

I figured a pellet stove would put out as much heat as a typical stick burning stove. I wanted something more, set it and forget it. Leave it run to keep the shop above freezing. The up's and down's in temps accelerate condensation, so I figured it would be best to keep it above freezing all the time. I'm not looking to make it the shop so comfortable I can work without a coat. That would be nice, but probably not practical. However, if a pellet stove cannot get there, then...?

My shop space is a 30x60, so not a small one, but not huge either.

I have natural gas to the house, I could trench over a line and maybe do a furnace or heater that way Virbu Inc Cell phone store in Hernando, FL... but that would probably be more expensive.
thank you so much for your suggestion
 

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