Will UAW Strike?

[5030]

All good until the strike pay fund runs out and then the rank and file has NO income at all. Will see how that plays out. Not like the domestic automakers don't have plenty of unsold inventory on hand and at their franchised dealers because there are plenty. Problem is, in this uncertain economy and rising interest rates, no one is buying them anyway, especially at the prices they are asking.

On a side note, I see they (autoworkers on strike) are starting to offer for sale, toys they accumulated that they can no longer pay for. FB Marketplace and Craigs List are getting loaded with them.

Personally speaking, I don't care if the UAW stays on strike. Don't impact me much, if any. I was always under the impression that 'collective bargaining' was about meeting in the middle, not all for the union's demands and not all for the employer's demands.

Fords. GM and Stellantis have put forth offers that allow them to remain in business but Fain seems to be turning a deaf ear to that.

As the strike continues I'm pretty sure that the domestic automakers will begin to divest themselves of factories here and move to either more conducive states (RTW) or move entirely out of the country to Mexico.

All the while, the offshore automakers that have located in RTW states and are not unionized (and their employees have rejected unionization) before, are still turning out vehicles the entire time.

It's getting interesting and my personal opinion is that it's not going to end well for the UAW.

 

[plowhog]

Unfortunately, I was never able to see California as a young man, I never got there until I was in my 60s and by that time the wackos had pretty much ruined as much of the state as they possibly could

I lived in California for many decades. Spent countless days in the forested back country of Northern California. Only went to San Francisco twice.

The forested back country is as beautiful and plentiful as ever. It's the big cities (and some of the small ones) that have been ruined by poor decisions.

 

[WM75Guy]

Fain is just following up on his campaign promises to get back everything the UAW had bargained away in the past plus get a 40% pay raise. But it isn't working out that way. I think the UAW will learn elections have consequences.

 

[plowhog]

Furthermore, I am hearing if you try to intervene and stop someone from stealing property, that person may very well be arrested.

Here's how crazy it is.

Stores hire uniformed security guards. Then instruct the guards not to intervene even if blatant shoplifting happens. They don't want to be on the wrong end of a news story or lawsuit so they just let it happen.

So why do they spend the money to pay the guard?

 

[5030]

that have been ruined by poor decisions.

Just read (and I find it to be quite believable) that there is a mass exodus of population from Kalifornia to neighboring states like Texas and of all places Florida to escape the overbearing tax structure and inane regulations that the current governor keeps enacting. I for one, would never live there. It might be beautiful but beauty to me is not footing the bill for people who graft off the government. What I do find interesting is that the current governor of Kalifornia has aspirations of running for President. I find that quite interesting.

 

[5030]

But it isn't working out that way. I think the UAW will learn elections have consequences.

The UAW strike on the not so big 3 has really become a regional issue at least here it has and there is little to nothing in the local papers about it and that includes the Detroit Free Press. I know that Fords is standing pat, not sure abut GM or Stellantis however and I have no idea about the CAW walkout either.

The overall new car market has changed radically in the past 5 years.

 

[plowhog]

Just read (and I find it to be quite believable) that there is a mass exodus of population from Kalifornia to neighboring states like Texas and of all places Florida to escape the overbearing tax structure and inane regulations that the current governor keeps enacting. I for one, would never live there. It might be beautiful but beauty to me is not footing the bill for people who graft off the government. What I do find interesting is that the current governor of Kalifornia has aspirations of running for President. I find that quite interesting.

I left CA about 10 years ago for reasons you described. Moved just across the border, so I still enjoy the CA marvelous backcountry, but I don't fund the nonsense decisions with my tax dollars.

It's so corrupt, it's hard to describe. As part of "feel good" politics, some time ago CA implemented a ban on state workers traveling to certain States that express conservative views. That ban was recently dropped in the dead of night with no announcement-- so the Guv can travel to those States to campaign for Prez.

 

[plowhog]

The UAW strike on the not so big 3 has really become a regional issue at least here it has and there is little to nothing in the local papers about it and that includes the Detroit Free Press. I know that Fords is standing pat, not sure abut GM or Stellantis however and I have no idea about the CAW walkout either.

The overall new car market has changed radically in the past 5 years.

I see no reporting at all on the West Coast.

 

[ultrarunner]

Here's how crazy it is.

Stores hire uniformed security guards. Then instruct the guards not to intervene even if blatant shoplifting happens. They don't want to be on the wrong end of a news story or lawsuit so they just let it happen.

So why do they spend the money to pay the guard?

Now codified by ordinance and you are spot on.

Our local beat career officer shot and killed a man at Walmart swinging a bat and is charged by DA with murder going on several years now.

The person he killed has become sort of a local hero with public spaces now named for him.

I was speaking with the officer when he got the call to rush to Walmart…

A very vocal public said the man swinging the bat was off his meds and it’s not like he had a gun and was shooting people.

In a split second your career is over and nothing will ever be the same for all concerned.

Departments throughout the Bay Area took note and many officers accelerated their retirements…

 

[ultrarunner]

Part of the lax enforcement is the results with jury trails not convicting…

I’ve been in a jury where it was very difficult as 2 said no one should go to jail for stealing food because people have to do what people have to do…

The third strike law really had an impact but when it was weakened a 180 occurred and property crime means almost nothing and one juror said that’s what insurance is for…