2022 GMC Canyon

[Gregster613]

East Coast slang for a wild trip and fall. Usually involves windmilling arms and flailing legs!

Thanks crashz, I thought about that when I read about cracked ribs but didn't put it together. Now I got ya!
Nice tow truck you've got also!

 

[Jstpssng]

Jstpssng, What are diggers? Shovels? Don't quite understand what you are saying. Sorry.

East Coast slang for a wild trip and fall. Usually involves windmilling arms and flailing legs!

He left out the words which your mother would prefer not to hear.

 

[Milo]

I'm wanting to replace my Honda Ridgeline with another midsize 4x4 truck. There's nothing wrong with my Ridgeline it's just that after 5 years I'm interested in something different and I'd like something with a bit more towing capability than 5,000#, like at least 6,500. I don't want a full size truck because of the narrow little roads I drive on every day but I'd like something with nice ride quality and a comfortable, quiet interior. After studying what's out there, both now and coming soon, I had decided on GM's new Canyon which was thought to have the 2.7 turbo from the 1/2 ton (it does) and 10 speed auto (it does not, they are using the ubiquitous 8 speed). Shoot I've heard of too many problems with the 8-speed auto but GM says they improved it, so OK I'll order one.
Then I read that GM is requiring you buy their OnStar for 3 years which is a "$1,500 mandatory option"! Surely not right? I mean if OnStar was free and in my vehicle I'd remove it. Anyway last week I asked my friend who owns the local Ford/GMC dealership when they could place orders? He said "very soon now'. And then I asked if it was true GM will only sell a GMC truck with the $1,500 OnStar? He grimaced and said "unfortunately yes". When I said unfortunately that's a deal breaker for me he said it has been for quite a number of potential customers and it's costing him sales every day. He said GM is looking to increase profit and sees yearly subscriptions as the future, GM make 8% on a new truck but 80% on OnStar.
So I'm back to square one now. By default it may be Ford's new Ranger coming next year, my friend is to let me know when they can order.

 

[ArlyA]

I'm wanting to replace my Honda Ridgeline with another midsize 4x4 truck. There's nothing wrong with my Ridgeline it's just that after 5 years I'm interested in something different and I'd like something with a bit more towing capability than 5,000#, like at least 6,500. I don't want a full size truck because of the narrow little roads I drive on every day but I'd like something with nice ride quality and a comfortable, quiet interior. After studying what's out there, both now and coming soon, I had decided on GM's new Canyon which was thought to have the 2.7 turbo from the 1/2 ton (it does) and 10 speed auto (it does not, they are using the ubiquitous 8 speed). Shoot I've heard of too many problems with the 8-speed auto but GM says they improved it, so OK I'll order one.
Then I read that GM is requiring you buy their OnStar for 3 years which is a "$1,500 mandatory option"! Surely not right? I mean if OnStar was free and in my vehicle I'd remove it. Anyway last week I asked my friend who owns the local Ford/GMC dealership when they could place orders? He said "very soon now'. And then I asked if it was true GM will only sell a GMC truck with the $1,500 OnStar? He grimaced and said "unfortunately yes". When I said unfortunately that's a deal breaker for me he said it has been for quite a number of potential customers and it's costing him sales every day. He said GM is looking to increase profit and sees yearly subscriptions as the future, GM make 8% on a new truck but 80% on OnStar.
So I'm back to square one now. By default it may be Ford's new Ranger coming next year, my friend is to let me know when they can order.

Maybe you should look at a ranger? at 36,000 miles, we are quite happy with it so far.

 

[Milo]

That's the plan Arly. I'll likely order 2024, unless Ford does something stupid. I sure wish it would come with a longer bed though, my understanding is the new model will only come as crew cab and 5' bed.

 

[Jstpssng]

That's the plan Arly. I'll likely order 2024, unless Ford does something stupid. I sure wish it would come with a longer bed though, my understanding is the new model will only come as crew cab and 5' bed.

That's the trouble. They finally started making a pickup which doesn't require a commercial plate to legally register it, (<6000 lbs), now they are turning them into passenger cars. GM is doing the same thing. If I wanted a 4 door behemoth I'd buy a Yukon or Excursion. I like my small truck because it's better on gas, weighs less so can go more places without getting stuck; and doesn't need 40 acres if I need to turn it around. I like my Colorado and was planning on keeping it for a while; yet if I can find a new one I'll trade, just because it's the last year they will be making the smaller extended cab version... with the V-6.

 

[ning]

I've had a drop-in liner since new with my '97 F350 LB and for a long time there was a rubber mat too. The mat behaves as mentioned above - a hint of cushion plus keeps stuff from sliding around. Gradually was deformed in a couple spots by diesel drips, but it worked well enough. I've found in general that having a somewhat slippery bed works well for me as I can just chuck things into the 8' bed from the tail end and slide them to the front, but sometimes I miss the mat (got rid of the mat when it started falling apart after 15 years, and it always stank and marked things black).

 

[ArlyA]

I've had a drop-in liner since new with my '97 F350 LB and for a long time there was a rubber mat too. The mat behaves as mentioned above - a hint of cushion plus keeps stuff from sliding around. Gradually was deformed in a couple spots by diesel drips, but it worked well enough. I've found in general that having a somewhat slippery bed works well for me as I can just chuck things into the 8' bed from the tail end and slide them to the front, but sometimes I miss the mat (got rid of the mat when it started falling apart after 15 years, and it always stank and marked things black).

We got one of those rubber matts and kind a like it. We just slide it out when we like to get most of the dirt out.

 

[Jstpssng]

We got one of those rubber matts and kind a like it. We just slide it out when we like to get most of the dirt out.

Exactly! It's a bit of a pain when loading/unloading my snowsled, so I slide the plywood in which I used before getting the bedliner.

 

[ruffdog]

My dad had a slip-in bed liner in his ex-cab Colorado and it fit real good...better than others I've seen. Also, there is a good chance that the 2023 Colorado may not have the subscriptions like the GMC does.

 

[Oaktree]

East Coast slang for a wild trip and fall. Usually involves windmilling arms and flailing legs!

Lived in New England most of my life and never heard that term. Thanks for explaining.

 

[jyoutz]

The logic on pickup marketing escapes me at times. Seems that every truck ad you see seems to focus on its supposed off-road capabilities, how many people actually do the kind of recreational off roading they show in the ads? Nobody I know.

Depends on where you live. Off roading is common in the west.

 

[Milo]

...I have no need or interest in a pickup with a back seat, the extended cab is all I'd ever need. Almost never carry more than one passenger....

I never carry more than one passenger and the area behind the seats is for my dog, groceries, tools, etc. so I'd love a "rear seats delete option" in an Access Cab 6' bed configuration. In fact removing the little fold down rear seats is the first thing I did when I bought my new 2004 Tundra. That mod made for a lot more space in the back.

The logic on pickup marketing escapes me at times. Seems that every truck ad you see seems to focus on its supposed off-road capabilities, how many people actually do the kind of recreational off roading they show in the ads? Nobody I know.

I can't understand people beating their new $40-$60,000 trucks off road but I can see the marketing for it. Trucks are being used less as traditional haulers and more as everyday commuters (boring to marketers), and lifestyle vehicles (exciting to marketers), so they advertise them as such. Especially mid size trucks since Tacoma (the leader) has been doing so for a while now.

 

[ljjhouser]

Congratulations. The Canyon is a nice looking truck.

 

[ArlyA]

I never carry more than one passenger and the area behind the seats is for my dog, groceries, tools, etc. so I'd love a "rear seats delete option" in an Access Cab 6' bed configuration. In fact removing the little fold down rear seats is the first thing I did when I bought my new 2004 Tundra. That mod made for a lot more space in the back.



I can't understand people beating their new $40-$60,000 trucks off road but I can see the marketing for it. Trucks are being used less as traditional haulers and more as everyday commuters (boring to marketers), and lifestyle vehicles (exciting to marketers), so they advertise them as such. Especially mid size trucks since Tacoma (the leader) has been doing so for a while now.

Groceries, dogs and supplies is what we use that space for. We also use all of the 6' box our ranger has.

 

[Milo]

My current Ridgeline works pretty well. I can slide long items such as a rifle case under the rear seats when they're down, or fold them up tight against the back which really opens up the space. They fold up tight enough that I left them rather than taking the seats out. The bed is only 5'-2" long but it is wide, 50" between the wheel wells and the wheel wells themselves are only a couple inches high. Then there's the cavernous trunk in addition. It makes a great lifestyle vehicle for camping w/o having to use a bed cover (which I don't like).

 

[ning]

Depends on where you live. Off roading is common in the west.

*more common
I would say. Even here in the general Lake Tahoe region, while there are definitely people with off-road rigs, the vast majority of people never leave pavement (particularly since so many gravel roads have been paved in the last few decades - I know people complain about infrastructure non-stop but do you remember just how many washboarded gravel roads there used to be?).

I think it's pure marketing; you see a (high-spec prepared with very optional gear probably from someone else's catalog) truck blasting through gnarly territory and you're supposed to think "wow if it survives that [at least long enough for the ad shoot] it's going to last me forever [until i buy a new car in 2.5 years]!"

My wife insisted on getting an AWD not for ruggedness but for the occasional icy morning drive; my (25yo) truck is 4WD because we do occasionally go on some nasty roads up in the mountains getting to some hiking areas (where it's more clearance than 4WD that matters, though the 4WD helps a bit here and there), or we go cross country skiing and sometimes have to take "alternate routes" to avoid snow road closures... oh, and mud around our property.