Bear Trouble

[Joel/ak]

Society and predators don't mix well.

In Anchorage, there is a subdivision that is mainly upper middle class +. They complain about bears yet they don't want hunting. I would get in arguments/ discussion's all the time with residents there. The place was called bear valley for a reason

 

[Joel/ak]

 

[Eagle1]

And that is reason for pump or semi shotguns with extended tubes loaded with slugs or at least buck shot after the 2 "warning" loads. Hope I'm never in that position and my dogs will do their job. No desire to kill a bear unless necessary but a normal door is nothing to a bear if they want in.
Around here it's just black bear and they will normally run if challenged and not cornered.

 

[Joel/ak]

My wife was a taxidermist for about 14 years in AK. She specialized in bears. She had quite a few empty coffee containers where she would put slugs, buck shot and bullets that were lodged in the hide and fat (hunters, for the most part do not know how to properly skin and flesh a bear)

Shot a small blackies outside of Valdez one time. Didn't want to but he kept coming in camp. Our friends had kids and can't have a troublesome bear with kids around. They like to run when scared.

Seen him on a hill above camp. Punched him with a 338. Bullet went in low on left shoulder and blew a hole big enough to just about fit my fist in through his spine.

That made him mad. He actually dragged himself down the hill on his one good front right paw. My buddy and I were amazed. One more shot took care of him.

I never understood the tenacity of bears until that day.

 

[Eagle1]

but but a 9 mm will blow the lungs clean out of the body.

Animals (and humans) can at time takes an incredible amount of damage and keep going. Had buck I hit with a 50 cal smokepole while he was standing and not aware of me. He went almost 200 yards with a 1/2 hole in both lungs and square in the heart blowing out all 4 chambers. Exit wound was about 3". Still trying to get up by the time I got there.

Never ever expect a sudden drop and death from anything some do some don't.

 

[Joel/ak]

but but a 9 mm will blow the lungs clean out of the body.

Animals (and humans) can at time takes an incredible amount of damage and keep going. Had buck I hit with a 50 cal smokepole while he was standing and not aware of me. He went almost 200 yards with a 1/2 hole in both lungs and square in the heart blowing out all 4 chambers. Exit wound was about 3". Still trying to get up by the time I got there.

Never ever expect a sudden drop and death from anything some do some don't.

This was before I knew the power of the 9mm and I guess the ar-15 ( no caliber given, just ar-15) speed. I thought the 338 was a respectable wrong.

(Sarcasm)

 

[MossRoad]

Sorry, but what a dumbass. Why did he go outside in the first place?

 

[Joel/ak]

Sorry, but what a dumbass. Why did he go outside in the first place?

Most videos don't show the complete backstory.

 

[Eagle1]

Maybe to protect pets or livestock? I would, as would my dogs.

BTW 338 should be plenty and sounds like good shot placement.

 

[Joel/ak]

Folks have different ideas on shot placement of bears. Some say vitals, some say to disable the bear then the kill shot. I'm in the disable group.

Obviously a good CNS shot to drop it is optimal but doesn't usually go that way.

Now if it's quartering towards or away where I can get a shoulder and vitals, I love it.

Coming straight on, aiming for the upper nose area.

I don't use shotguns. Not my thing

 

[Joel/ak]

Shot a blackie once. 206 yards with rem 7600 in 35 Whelan with 225gr grand slams.

It must have heard or smelled me but it stood up and and was facing me.

I punched him in the chest and it ran off. A few minutes later I heard the death moan (still freaks me out). Ran about 70 yards. Took 5 guys to get it out of the thick brush it ran to.

I totally destroyed the heart but the bullet blew up and never made it to the spine. I started going for the disabling shot after that.

They are not invincible, but dang you get grey hair going in after a wounded bear.

 

[Joel/ak]

Shot a blackie once. 206 yards with rem 7600 in 35 Whelan with 225gr grand slams.

It must have heard or smelled me but it stood up and and was facing me.

I punched him in the chest and it ran off. A few minutes later I heard the death moan (still freaks me out). Ran about 70 yards. Took 5 guys to get it out of the thick brush it ran to.

I totally destroyed the heart but the bullet blew up and never made it to the spine. I started going for the disabling shot after that.

They are not invincible, but dang you get grey hair going in after a wounded bear.

Bear shot with 35 Whelan

 

[cqaigy2]

I have to ask the same thing, what the hell was he going toward the bear, to begin with. Your safest bet is to not get into a situation where your options are reduced to such a low level. He could have tripped, etc.

 

[Joel/ak]

Could be a couple of reasons. His dog was out. People like their pups.

I've found out brown/grizz are easier to chase off than blacks. Show of force?

Grizz usually don't want to deal with humans unless food or cubs are involved. Walking up quiet and startling them isn't the smartest.
Browns don't attack to kill, they remove the threat, unless they are hungry.

 

[ultrarunner]

The video has a warning as to content?

 

[Thomas]

Sorry, but what a dumbass. Why did he go outside in the first place?

BINGO...

 

[ultrarunner]

Update…

Bear self serve ice cream now at Tahoe… estimate 500 in number.

Remember, never harass the bears… or the law will come for you.

Bear found behind the counter of a South Lake Tahoe ice cream shop

One scoop or two?

www.adn.com

 

[dodge man]

The good thing is the bear doesn’t have to pay taxes on the tips it earns.

 

[dstig1]

Was probably going for the Moose Tracks ice cream. Thought it contained real mooses

 

[bdhsfz6]

Bear protection laws vary widely from state to state. Here in PA, they are protected in the wild except during hunting season. Killing or injuring a bear doing property damage will get you a hefty fine, even jail time, but if one breaks into your place of residence, you are authorized to use deadly force under the states Castle Doctrine.

My SIL owned a diner in 2010 and Black Bear getting into the dumpsters was a big problem. The game commission would not allow harming them but recommended a loud siren controlled by an infrared sensor. Bear do not like loud noises. After some adjustment to limit triggering by small animals, it worked perfectly.