This is my last post on TBN

[Diggin It]

Lemme get this straight. TBN is ‘bad’ because it is over moderated and TNT is ‘bad’ because there is no moderation.

Boggles yer noggin, don't it?

 

[Diggin It]

Thanks Daryl.

Which Daryll? And who's Larry?

 

[ovrszd]

Which Daryll? And who's Larry?

Aren't you exceeding your 3 posts a day limit???

 

[jyoutz]

If you read Mike's post thoroughly you would see it's not science that closes the threads. it's politics. And it's idiotic to not see that.

Umm. You are making my point. Covid is a science issue, but people stupidly make it a political issue.

 

[Muhammad]

This will be my last post on TBN. I post this so my friends here will know where I have gone, and that I am not dead. Not yet anyway.

I just cannot in good conscience live with the level of heavy handed and one sided moderation and the last straw was the rules change by Muhammad that Covid 19 threads would no longer be tolerated. I can't live with that level of censorship and "wokeness"

And yes I will NOT let the screen door hit me where the good Lord split me.

I am over on AR15.com a much more tolerant and diverse forum. See you over there.

Were you only here for the Covid-19 discussions?

As @MikePA said, I made the decision to ban covid-19 discussions because this is a tractor site, not a general news site, or a politics site. That and we tried allowing the covid-19 discussions but it didn't work out. The topics consistently drifted into politics and those needed to be deleted and members were getting banned and everybody was unhappy.

 

[ovrszd]

MC, do you have a published list of topics we cannot discuss? Maybe that would clear this up?

 

[Muhammad]

MC, do you have a published list of topics we cannot discuss? Maybe that would clear this up?

Yes, it's pinned in the feedback forum: Forum Rules

Posted that 5 years ago, only update in that time was banning covid-19 threads.

 

[Steppenwolfe]

MC, do you have a published list of topics we cannot discuss? Maybe that would clear this up?

Now that there is funny...

 

[ovrszd]

Yes, it's pinned in the feedback forum: Forum Rules

Posted that 5 years ago, only update in that time was banning covid-19 threads.

Of the eleven things banned, I regularly see seven. Other members can do their own math.

The problem is how punishment is dealt.

If I violate, punish me, if that includes deleting my post send me a PM outlining my violation and the consequences. If that includes banning me for a time, again explain to me why.

And I'm even in favor of public declaration of the violation I committed and the punishment executed. As others have said, we are all big boys.

Just distribute control and punishment fairly. And do it openly. That's all any of us is asking.

Lastly, I thank God for the ability to sit here and type this post!!! Is that a violation?

 

[Wagtail]

I hope it all works out for you K0ua. "Fair winds and following seas"...

I, for one, have always been on TBN to talk, and especially learn, about tractors and all of the related topics we discuss. Most of the contributions I've made have usually been a repetition of what I've learnt here.

Take care Mate.

 

[ovrszd]

Now that there is funny...

Easy now Steppy, I'm actually on your side in this discussion...

 

[K5lwq]

I don’t disagree with the political stuff and wish people could talk about issues they are facing without that drift. I did gain some good information from a few of the Covid threads and Certainly think people like Eddie that was facing Covid should be able to reach out for guidance and information.

I joined to discuss tractors and enjoy doing so. But in the process I have met some really good people that I am honored to call them friends. Friends like to talk about issues they are having with one another and that should be encouraged. The closer people become the more inviting it is for others to participate.

James often brought great insight and guidance for many people having issues with their tractors. He certainly was here to talk tractors and personally I will miss his post.

 

[plowhog]

This will be my last post on TBN.

Sorry to see you go, James.

You have been generous with sharing your detailed expertise on many subjects. I have read many of your extremely detailed posts written in response to complex questions and subjects.

Few have your knowledge set, and few of those would share it with others as you have. You will be missed.

73's

 

[ovrszd]

Umm. You are making my point. Covid is a science issue, but people stupidly make it a political issue.

Employers with 100 people or more were told they will be vaccinated for Covid or your company will be punished. Which "science" was that? Then the Supreme Court, a non political entity said you can't enforce that. Which "science" was that?

See how easy it is to cross lines.

 

[Steppenwolfe]

Easy now Steppy, I'm actually on your side in this discussion...

How is that??? You owe MC an apology. None of this is Libs herding conservatives. You just want to make it that. And if this forum is that baseless, where I have a voice and you don't, then I wouldn't choose to be here either.

 

[Jims1025R]

Internet forums, and the "fit" of any given person, are kinda like those "venn diagrams", where hopefully you fit in that little triangle in the middle of all three circles - except that the circles move around. So what might have been a fit when you began, or even you fit, but were only in two of the circles, can change. And that's okay! It's unfortunate that any contributor would choose to leave, particularly a valued one, but people's interests and opinions can vary over time (one circle), the circumstances of our world can change (another circle) and the theme of the forums, and moderation can change (the third circle). Occasionally the result is that you're not in two of the circles any more. The best thing is to realize it, and either move with a circle, or step back from two of them, neither is wrong - it's a personal thing. Honestly, there are topics on this forum I would not even open, they potentially offend me. But that's my problem, not that of the forum, or members. Happily, I'm here to talk about tractors, and that's going well, so the peripheral topics are unimportant to me anyway - I wouldn't touch them on the aviation forums either!

I'm a moderator on two aviation forums, each with surprisingly different guidance from administration about what's acceptable, and what's not. But the basic fact is that the forums are someone's "place" and we are guests. Hopefully the member who has announced their departure has inspired members with a sense of tractor community, and that will carry on as a positive! We won't celebrate a loss of a member, but we can still celebrate their contribution and value!

 

[ovrszd]

How is that??? You owe MC an apology. None of this is Libs herding conservatives. You just want to make it that. And if this forum is that baseless, where I have a voice and you don't, then I wouldn't choose to be here either.

An apology for what? James didn't leave because he couldn't say the word "Covid". I don't want to make this anything. You always have a voice. And if it's banned you'll come back as someone else.

Again, I'm on your side here.

 

[jyoutz]

Employers with 100 people or more were told they will be vaccinated for Covid or your company will be punished. Which "science" was that? Then the Supreme Court, a non political entity said you can't enforce that. Which "science" was that?

See how easy it is to cross lines.

And what does that have to do with tractors? See why this is banned?

 

[AchingBack]

The issue is that this is a forum to discuss tractors and rural living, not politics. And today most Covid discussions devolve into political discussions. I’m glad the the site owners have squelched political discussion on this site. It ends up destroying what we are here for. And it would be helpful to define “censorship.” That term applies to a government infringement on free speech. It doesn’t apply to private owners establishing rules for the use of their property, forums, etc… When you join a private site that is offering a free forum, you must abide by the rules established by the owner. You are free to stand on public property and peacefully express your opinions all you want; we are not being censored.

And here you are, discussing politics. No one makes any member read or post on any thread. Discussions on COVID-19 without blaming politicians can be quite beneficial.

 

[California]

Meanwhile back at the ranch ...

k0ua, sorry to see you go. I've learned things from your posts over the years.

I wish all of us could discuss issues of general interest in a manner that doesn't deepen divisions.