My new barn / shop build

[ovrszd]

Thanks for straightening me out on this one guys.

So, if we leave 3ft from left wall, 10ft door, 2ft between, 10ft door, 3ft between overhead and mandoor, 3ft mandoor, that leaves 9ft past mandoor for office. That's doable.

 

[Industrial Toys]

Just getting back to light. When I built my driveshed, I opted for no windows, just in the doors and the Polycarbonate overhead doors. Windows have to be very large to let in any amount of useable light, and I was tired of windows just attracting insects and spiders with their webs. I don't miss not having windows at all.

 

[ovrszd]

Yep, it's all what you desire. I'd freak out without windows. Right now, at 4:14 p.m., I can turn off my lights and work in my shop.

Took this pic this morning of a buck having pears for breakfast.

 

[Industrial Toys]

I can't have enough light to work and anything short of picture windows (which would look dumb) wouldn't let in enough light anyway. Plus, windows are just another thing that deny you use of wall space.

 

[ovrszd]

I can't have enough light to work and anything short of picture windows (which would look dumb) wouldn't let in enough light anyway. Plus, windows are just another thing that deny you use of wall space.

Maybe it's your eyesight that's the problem. Maybe you've never been in a properly "windowed" shop. Did you think my shop needed more wall space?

 

[Industrial Toys]

Definitely, my eyesight is the problem. This house is nothing but large windows. Just one more strike against it for heat loss.

 

[EddieWalker]

I agree with maximum wall space and windows cut down on how many shelves you can have. I also agree that the more natural light you have, the better. I think that a Monitor style barn with windows way up high on the wall, just under the eaves is the best of both worlds. Nothing fancy, just double pane, solid glass, nothing that opens, type of window. Or maybe glass blocks so you don't have a sill or another place for dust to collect.

 

[ovrszd]

Definitely, my eyesight is the problem. This house is nothing but large windows. Just one more strike against it for heat loss.

I have approximately 60 sq ft of glass in my shop. All quality double pane glass. Let's just go crazy and say it costs me $100 per year heat cost because of that glass. That's approximately 33 cents a day. But wait,,, in the Winter I'll gain radiant heat from the sunshine. But to minimize confusion I'll stick with 33 cents a day. I watched that Buck eat pears for 15 minutes this morning. I'd pay a buck for that. Hey, there's the next three days heat cost!!!! Winner!!!!

 

[Industrial Toys]

That's fifteen minutes in LOST PRODUCTION. lol

Reminds me as a kid, how I hated school and being there and enjoyed the windows of the classroom to look outside. Best was when some Ford 2000 or 3000 showed up to cut the grounds with a 917 flail mower!

 

[bridge4]

It's like you guys don't have electricity with this window talk. Yes natural light is great, and should be in the plan, but if you don't think the correct lighting isn't just as, if not more important, you are missing something.

Make sure you have nice clean LED lighting (5k and above keeps people awake) hung in the rafters and you can see everything. Windows aren't the only option for light in 2019.

I like eddiewalkers idea for light under the eaves, I've seen lots of places do that and it looks nice, lets in lot of light and doesn't use wall space really. Then a couple normal windows to see your deers out of and you are set.

 

[MRollins10]

Ain't that the truth Eddie. I've had this machine 3 or 4 years. Use it for many, many chores. Keep thinking Terry will need to haul off her house trash pretty soon and dump it for me. I think she's trying to outwait me. As soon as I back out of the shop I'll hear her hollering from the house door to take her trash too.

That's hilarious. My Ranger is constantly full of Amazon boxes too

 

[MRollins10]

That's a really nice shop! FYI - my windows are going in horizontally!

 

[MRollins10]

Some additional thoughts.

30ft wide with three doors? Two 10ft wide overheads? One 3ft wide mandoor?

Assuming that's correct.... Let's say the left door is 3ft from the wall. Let's say there's 2ft between the overheads. That leaves 1ft between the center overhead and the mandoor. That leaves 1ft between the mandoor and the right wall. That's barely doable but leaves no space for an office.

Maybe shift the mandoor to the right wall?

I love my lift. Have had one for many years. Mine is a drive-on which takes up a lot of space. I can park my Jeep on it. Raise it all the way. Then park my RTV under it. Also makes an excellent Buffet Table for gatherings.

A two post takes up less space but still requires some door planning and placement consideration to make it accessible. If doing a two post you have to pre-determine location and pour sumps or piers where the legs will be to assure stability. They put a lot of lateral pressure on the concrete so it needs to be deep there and well enforced.

Its actually 30 foot deep and 40 foot wide.

 

[MRollins10]

Some additional thoughts.

30ft wide with three doors? Two 10ft wide overheads? One 3ft wide mandoor?

Assuming that's correct.... Let's say the left door is 3ft from the wall. Let's say there's 2ft between the overheads. That leaves 1ft between the center overhead and the mandoor. That leaves 1ft between the mandoor and the right wall. That's barely doable but leaves no space for an office.

Maybe shift the mandoor to the right wall?

I love my lift. Have had one for many years. Mine is a drive-on which takes up a lot of space. I can park my Jeep on it. Raise it all the way. Then park my RTV under it. Also makes an excellent Buffet Table for gatherings.

A two post takes up less space but still requires some door planning and placement consideration to make it accessible. If doing a two post you have to pre-determine location and pour sumps or piers where the legs will be to assure stability. They put a lot of lateral pressure on the concrete so it needs to be deep there and well enforced.

Yes, i actually had them pour 2'x2'x12" piers at the post locations. Do you think that will be sufficient?

 

[MRollins10]

It's like you guys don't have electricity with this window talk. Yes natural light is great, and should be in the plan, but if you don't think the correct lighting isn't just as, if not more important, you are missing something.

Make sure you have nice clean LED lighting (5k and above keeps people awake) hung in the rafters and you can see everything. Windows aren't the only option for light in 2019.

I like eddiewalkers idea for light under the eaves, I've seen lots of places do that and it looks nice, lets in lot of light and doesn't use wall space really. Then a couple normal windows to see your deers out of and you are set.

Yes, i have already opted to upgrade to LED lighting. Two overhead bay LEDs and some others strategically placed on the walls throughout.

 

[ovrszd]

Yes, i actually had them pour 2'x2'x12" piers at the post locations. Do you think that will be sufficient?

Yes. Can't remember if you are doing floor heat? If so, avoid those areas with your piping.

 

[Industrial Toys]

I have been in houses with those Solatubes. Man, if you could afford that in a shop, that would be sweet. Have one right over a bench or some machine.

 

[AllByteNoBark]

Yes, i have already opted to upgrade to LED lighting. Two overhead bay LEDs and some others strategically placed on the walls throughout.

When I put up my shop for lighting I referenced this site and thread.
The Best Light Fixture Ever! - The Garage Journal Board

Great advice and I am very happy with my lighting. I put in 19 LED fixtures and it is like working in daylight no matter the time of day. Very low electric use and hardly any shadows, especially at work height. The fixtures and bulbs being recommended now are a bit better than what I put in as he updated the thread 5/17/2019.

The older I get, the more light I need.

 

[countrybumpkin]

I did the epoxy with flakes on my floor a year ago has held up well. Really like the way it cleans up.

 

[MRollins10]

When I put up my shop for lighting I referenced this site and thread.
The Best Light Fixture Ever! - The Garage Journal Board

Great advice and I am very happy with my lighting. I put in 19 LED fixtures and it is like working in daylight no matter the time of day. Very low electric use and hardly any shadows, especially at work height. The fixtures and bulbs being recommended now are a bit better than what I put in as he updated the thread 5/17/2019.

The older I get, the more light I need.

Great info! Thank you.