120-Volt Mig welder.

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/ 120-Volt Mig welder. #101  
It is awfully quiet here in this thread, Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice?
 
/ 120-Volt Mig welder. #103  
I'm afraid to say anything since I not only have a 120v MIG, but it is also from Harbor Freight! :shhh:
That should get a 'conversation' :D started!

Actually I have the 120V/90amp HF mig and I've done a few decent repair projects with it. After a little experience I'm convinced this model is what they use in China to cobble together all the sloppy-welded bookshelves etc for Walmart and Target. It is sufficient for this kind of work but only within a limited range of projects. It seemed to have a very narrow range between insufficient penetration and burn-through. Aside from the limitation of low power, its AC arc and flux-only operation will always spatter more than a DC shielded-gas welder.

Then more recently I bought a used 120V Century 135 mig welder, and use it with flux wire. It adjusts through a broader range than the HF welder did, and the DC spatters less. I like it a lot better than the HF welder. It feels like I can tune it in better to match what I need, a lot better than the HF's hi/lo heat adjustment that never matched the project.

I'm still curious how the Clarke/Forney 110v welder compares to this Century.
 
/ 120-Volt Mig welder. #105  
That should get a 'conversation' :D started!

Actually I have the 120V/90amp HF mig and I've done a few decent repair projects with it. After a little experience I'm convinced this model is what they use in China to cobble together all the sloppy-welded bookshelves etc for Walmart and Target. It is sufficient for this kind of work but only within a limited range of projects. It seemed to have a very narrow range between insufficient penetration and burn-through. Aside from the limitation of low power, its AC arc and flux-only operation will always spatter more than a DC shielded-gas welder.

Then more recently I bought a used 120V Century 135 mig welder, and use it with flux wire. It adjusts through a broader range than the HF welder did, and the DC spatters less. I like it a lot better than the HF welder. It feels like I can tune it in better to match what I need, a lot better than the HF's hi/lo heat adjustment that never matched the project.

I'm still curious how the Clarke/Forney 110v welder compares to this Century.
I hope to buy something better someday, but for now it was a cheap way to try MIG welding and make some repairs. I feel it has already paid for itself.
 
/ 120-Volt Mig welder. #106  
That should get a 'conversation' :D started!

Actually I have the 120V/90amp HF mig and I've done a few decent repair projects with it. After a little experience I'm convinced this model is what they use in China to cobble together all the sloppy-welded bookshelves etc for Walmart and Target. It is sufficient for this kind of work but only within a limited range of projects. It seemed to have a very narrow range between insufficient penetration and burn-through. Aside from the limitation of low power, its AC arc and flux-only operation will always spatter more than a DC shielded-gas welder.

Then more recently I bought a used 120V Century 135 mig welder, and use it with flux wire. It adjusts through a broader range than the HF welder did, and the DC spatters less. I like it a lot better than the HF welder. It feels like I can tune it in better to match what I need, a lot better than the HF's hi/lo heat adjustment that never matched the project.

I'm still curious how the Clarke/Forney 110v welder compares to this Century.

Interesting. I've never seen an AC output mig welder that I am aware of.
 
/ 120-Volt Mig welder. #107  
Interesting. I've never seen an AC output mig welder that I am aware of.

That HF one is the only one I have seen or heard about. But it is AC only and no gas provision. People do make welds with them.
 
/ 120-Volt Mig welder. #109  
That should get a 'conversation' :D started!

Actually I have the 120V/90amp HF mig and I've done a few decent repair projects with it. After a little experience I'm convinced this model is what they use in China to cobble together all the sloppy-welded bookshelves etc for Walmart and Target. It is sufficient for this kind of work but only within a limited range of projects. It seemed to have a very narrow range between insufficient penetration and burn-through. Aside from the limitation of low power, its AC arc and flux-only operation will always spatter more than a DC shielded-gas welder.

Then more recently I bought a used 120V Century 135 mig welder, and use it with flux wire. It adjusts through a broader range than the HF welder did, and the DC spatters less. I like it a lot better than the HF welder. It feels like I can tune it in better to match what I need, a lot better than the HF's hi/lo heat adjustment that never matched the project.

I'm still curious how the Clarke/Forney 110v welder compares to this Century.

I have one of these too and use it quite a bit for thin stuff. If I buy good wire it runs pretty well with minimal spatter. The HF wire is awful for spatter. The ESAB stuff seems to work well and a 2 pound spool is reasonable. I've run a dozen or so spools through this cheapo box, eventually I'll have the dough for a better unit but not this year. BTW, I have a 220v stick welder for the big stuff so no need to flame me on safety. ;)
 
/ 120-Volt Mig welder. #111  
I heard a rumor the folks working the Alaskan pipe line were considering going to all 120v. Mig & Flux core welders for repairs and construction on the pipe line....

Bob, I am really hoping you were just kidding about that!:eek:
 
/ 120-Volt Mig welder. #115  
Amtrak has also outfitted repair crews with HF AC 110 mig machines for track repairs, they seem to be working just fine and should be passing the savings on to passengers beginning this Thanksgiving. Sodo will be hosting a seminar in a rail yard near you this coming Labor Day.
 
/ 120-Volt Mig welder. #116  
It might interest some that railroads do use wire welders for building up switch points and frogs. Little over 110v though. Most rail is either thermite welded or flash butt welded. If you ever saw anybody weld bandsaw blades together, thats pretty much how rail is flashbutt welded.
 
/ 120-Volt Mig welder. #117  
Boy I leave for a few days and the forum grinds to a halt. This is no good for the forum advertisers. I'll do what I can to stir things up.

Here's a 120volt weld on 3/8" steel, 60 degree bevel. It's two passes. That's a 1/4" bolt for scale.

I have a 20T press but don't have any fixtures to bend it. Probably can whip something up, but do you think a guy with a 120V welder can actually construct a bending fixture that won't injure forum members in 3 adjacent counties? :D :D :D :D

** edit ** ooops it was 3 passes ****

Also added pic of the weld backside. No animals were harmed during the making of this test plate.
 

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/ 120-Volt Mig welder. #118  
Boy I leave for a few days and the forum grinds to a halt. This is no good for the forum advertisers. I'll do what I can to stir things up.

Here's a 120volt weld on 3/8" steel, 60 degree bevel. It's two passes. That's a 1/4" bolt for scale.

I have a 20T press but don't have any fixtures to bend it. Probably can whip something up, but do you think a guy with a 120V welder can actually construct a bending fixture that won't injure forum members in 3 adjacent counties? :D :D :D :D
Give us some details on wire size, feed, speed, technique, etc... please. Looks pretty **** good to me but I know, pretty isn't what we are after.
 
/ 120-Volt Mig welder. #119  
Give us some details on wire size, feed, speed, technique, etc... please. Looks pretty **** good to me but I know, pretty isn't what we are after.

I welded it to bend it, my intent is to see if it's strong.

I chose the 1/4" thickness preset then upped the voltage, reduced the wire speed and just welded like a sumb**ch. My wire is .030. Sorry I didn't make a note of the numbers and don't know any buzzwords.
 
/ 120-Volt Mig welder. #120  
I welded it to bend it, my intent is to see if it's strong.

I chose the 1/4" thickness preset then upped the voltage, reduced the wire speed and just welded like a sumb**ch. My wire is .030. Sorry I didn't make a note of the numbers and don't know any buzzwords.
Thanks Sodo... that is pretty much what I was looking for. As I understand it, reducing wire speed makes the joint 'hotter' as well as increasing voltage.
 
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