Starting a new home

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Looks amazing Scott!!!

Love the contrast of colors (cabinets to countertop...)!

I'm so jealous you are that far along... ;)

Michael
 
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thanks for the complements, My wife and I are very proud how thing are coming together. We just wish the process would move a little faster. Our construction loan end on Jan 6th, I hope we get it done by then.
 
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Well they have installed the countertops, I had to go look this morning to see what they looked like. So here are the pics.
 

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/ Starting a new home #145  
WOW!!! It has been a while since I have caught up on the progress. It looks amazing. I agree that the colors in your kitchen look awesome. Would you mind telling me what the color is on your cabinets? Did you stain them yourself? They look great. I think the color of your granite contrasts very well with the cabinets.

My wife and I are preparing to start our house after the first of the year. The kids can't wait either.


I know you're proud. It is turning out very nice.



Bryan
 
/ Starting a new home #146  
sr160009:

I've never been to Texas, so I don't know much about the area you live in; but I'm curious about a couple of things pertaining to your new house.

I see it is slab on grade construction. Is there any reason that basements are not the norm where you are? Do you have a high water table? I know in sinking Houston a basement would be the equivalent of having an indoor swimming pool. :rolleyes: But I would think being north of Dallas would be high and dry; plus a basement would be good for escaping the summer heat and provide shelter should a pesky tornado wander your way.

I also noticed that your house has a ridge beam and individual rafters and that there was a comment about your contractor having issues with the roof framing being 24' above grade at the peak. Here, manufactured trusses are the norm and the builders just have a crane fly them into place and nail them down. The roof sheathing ties them all together.

Just curious as I am in the preliminary phases of design for our final house. It better be our final house...:D
 
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mjncad said:
sr160009:

I've never been to Texas, so I don't know much about the area you live in; but I'm curious about a couple of things pertaining to your new house.

I see it is slab on grade construction. Is there any reason that basements are not the norm where you are? Do you have a high water table? I know in sinking Houston a basement would be the equivalent of having an indoor swimming pool. :rolleyes: But I would think being north of Dallas would be high and dry; plus a basement would be good for escaping the summer heat and provide shelter should a pesky tornado wander your way.

I also noticed that your house has a ridge beam and individual rafters and that there was a comment about your contractor having issues with the roof framing being 24' above grade at the peak. Here, manufactured trusses are the norm and the builders just have a crane fly them into place and nail them down. The roof sheathing ties them all together.

Just curious as I am in the preliminary phases of design for our final house. It better be our final house...:D

I won't speak for the state, but as a local builder in East Texas, I have a few ideas why we do things here the way we do them.

From what I have been able to tell, there are two reason's it's very rare to find basements in the Southern States and warmer climates. First is that they are not needed. In areas that have basements, the winter freeze dictates how deep the foundation has to be. If you have to dig your footings down 6 feet or more, then creating a basement isn't that much more work. Here, our footings only go down a foot. Lots of foundation footings are dug with a shovel in my area. It's just not needed to pay for a backhoe or mini excavator when it can be done so much cheaper with a minimum wage laborer.

The next reason is the expense. Here a slab can be poured for under $4 a foot. It was cheaper, but priced of concrete have been jumping. It might even be a bit more, but the last quote I had was this past spring for that amount.

Figure $8,000 total for a 2,000 square foot homes foundation. You will never come close to that with a basement, though I don't know what it would actualy cost for the basement, I know that people have budgets and try to get the most out of what they can spend.

A few other reasons that may or may not add into this is the price of the land. It's fairly cheap to buy land here compared to allot of the country. If I have the space, then I will build on one level and spread the house out. Dirt here varies allot with different types of clays. In some areas, it's very unstable and extremly tricky to just get a slab to stay in place. A basement would complicate that tremendously. We also have extreme rains where it's not uncommon to get 5 inches of rain in a day. Sometimes in just a few hours. That may come into the decission as well.

Roof trusses and rafters are both used fairly regularly here. The higher end homes and high dollar builders usualy use trusses. They are faster and easier to build, which speeds up the time it takes to build the house. They also cost allot more money. Sometimes it's a HUGE difference!!! Building rafters on site takes a little longer, so you pay more in man hours, but nothing close to what the crane rental is. The savings in pretty significant in the overall price per sq ft in building the overall home.

I can build a one story, brick home for $60 a foot and sell it for $70 to $75 a foot before the market went crazy. Now it's not so easy to find a buyer with so many homes on the market, so I'm avoiding spec homes for now. In some neighborhoods, the price of the lot dictates what the price to build will be and what it will sell for. In those neighborhoods, homes can easily cost over $100 a ft to build because of the detail that goes into them. What most people don't realize is that lumber costs the same in a tract home as it does in a mansion.

The real money is spent in finishing off the home. Cabinets, flooring, windows, doors, trim, lighting and all those little finish details can change the finish price of a home by huge amounts. A $60 a ft home can go up to $80 a ft real easy this way.

When talking to builders, find out how they will build the roof. This is a big factor in the overall cost of the framing. Those who have trusses built, delivered and installed with a crane will be more expensive then those who build rafters on site. Most rooms in a house down't need a truss, and if there is a room that does need it, like a great room, then it's not that hard to build for them for the room and tie it all together. The savings can be fairly significant.

Eddie
 
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Thanks for the insight Eddie. I've filed away your comments for future reference.

Along the Front Range of Colorado, we have a problem with bentonite and many builders have been burned over the years because of it.

We haven't seen $60 to $75 a square foot houses here in many years. In 2000, when we moved into Casa Lemon as I call our place, the cost to us was $160 a square foot including land, and we have one of the more modest places in the neighborhood. Since the home was a spec home, we don't know what the builder paid for the dirt. Even subtracting what I think the builder paid for the dirt means we still had a cost to us of $136 a square foot. Mind you, we do have a full basement.
 
/ Starting a new home #149  
Price per foot to build a house is all over the place depending on where you are at. Not counting land, it was over $300 a foot for single story homes in the area of California that I'm from.

Materials for the exact same house, built in different parts of the country are not gonna very all that much. Maybe ten percent as a guess, but overall, it's not a big difference. What really affects the price of building is labor and permits. Some places the permits can be in the tens of thousands of dollars!!!

One of the trade magazines that I get had a breakdown of building costs and goals by the top home building companies in the nation. About a third of the house was materials, the rest was labor and fees. The point of the article was to find ways to cut down on labor expenses and the price to build a house.

Where I live, you can hire laborers for as little as $8 an hour with minimal skills and no tools. For $10 an hour you can usually find somebody with some skills and basic tools. $15 an hour will get you an experieced worker with a good vehical and tools. Contractors and subs vary their rates on what they are building and who they are building for. A sub will charge a homeowner one price, but give me another price. There can be some huge differences in what they charge depending on the location and the style of home. Unfortunaely, expensive neghborhoods pay a premium to build those homes compared to rural and more modest homes.

I built my house myself for $30 a foot including what I paid to subs for certain things. That included my shop, storage areas and bringing water in 800 feet from across a State Highway and gravel roads. I don't think it's possible to do it any cheaper then I did it. LOL

Eddie
 
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Sorry for not updating in the past few weeks. We have been very busy tying up all of the loose ends. Looks like we will be moving in this weekend though. Everything is turning out great. I will be posting more pic when I get a chance.
 
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sr160009 said:
Looks like we will be moving in this weekend though. Everything is turning out great.

Congratulations!!! :)

Eddie
 
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sr160009 said:
Sorry for not updating in the past few weeks. We have been very busy tying up all of the loose ends. Looks like we will be moving in this weekend though. Everything is turning out great. I will be posting more pic when I get a chance.

Congrats to you and your wife for designing and building such a beautiful house!

I just got high speed internet (live in the country too) and decided to get caught up on some of these home building threads.

What happens when the house isn't done and the loan comes due? Can you get an extension?

Also wondering what types of flooring did you decide to go with?

Good luck with the moving. I've always said, you really know who your friends are when its time to move.
 
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Kyle_in_Tex said:
Congrats to you and your wife for designing and building such a beautiful house!

I just got high speed internet (live in the country too) and decided to get caught up on some of these home building threads.

What happens when the house isn't done and the loan comes due? Can you get an extension?

Also wondering what types of flooring did you decide to go with?

Good luck with the moving. I've always said, you really know who your friends are when its time to move.

Thanks,

I had to get a air card for my laptop, it works really well. For you first question yes you can always get an extention but it costs you a lot more. first there is a $500 fee for the extention plus a $1250 fee to keep your rate. We did not need the extension, even though the house was not complete at the time of the rollover. It is all up to the inspector, in our case he said there was enough done at the time.

The flooring is burber carpet in most of the rooms, ceramic tile in the kitchen, entry and breakfast area. I also did lamitate in my office. When I find my camera I will post some pics. I am so busy right now.
 
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I receved my first full electric bill the other day and I was pleased. I did the foam insolation in my house and I have not used gas yet to heat the house, we have it set to 69 degrees and my first full bill was $152.00. As you know we are heating 2950 square Ft. with 9' ceilings and the living room is 13'. My other house was twise that much and it was only 1200 sq ft.

We have been in the house for the full billing period.
 
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sr160009 said:
I receved my first full electric bill the other day and I was pleased. I did the foam insolation in my house and I have not used gas yet to heat the house, we have it set to 69 degrees and my first full bill was $152.00. As you know we are heating 2950 square Ft. with 9' ceilings and the living room is 13'. My other house was twise that much and it was only 1200 sq ft.

We have been in the house for the full billing period.

Sounds like that insulation will pay itself off in a year or two.

Still waiting for some final pics with flooring (when you get the chance).;)
 
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Very Nice!
We are just getting ready to start ours. Finishing the plans, hopefully the last.

I too decided to go with foam insulation & the pex plumbing & manifold.
Will also be doing the tankless water heater.

Here where we live we build basement and am going to do a wood foundation.

Looks very nice and glad you are happy with it.
WIth what you have done and learned makes me feel better about our decisions.

Congratulations!!
 
/ Starting a new home #157  
sr160009 said:
I receved my first full electric bill the other day and I was pleased. I did the foam insolation in my house and I have not used gas yet to heat the house, we have it set to 69 degrees and my first full bill was $152.00. As you know we are heating 2950 square Ft. with 9' ceilings and the living room is 13'. My other house was twise that much and it was only 1200 sq ft.

We have been in the house for the full billing period.
SR160009, that is a very good heating bill! Thanks for sharing your actual costs. for hte size house you have you did well in your construcion decisions and now you are reaping the benefits.
 
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Update on the energy costs.

I the fist bill has been the highest I have had so far. I just got my last bill and it was $135.18 with the inside temp set at 70 degrees. It has been very hot here for the last couple of months.

WOW I am very happy with the FOAM INSULATION.
 
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sr160009 where do you live in Collinsville. We own some land in Collinsville and are looking to build a house. Who did you use?

Thanks,

Aaron
 
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sr160009 said:
Update on the energy costs.

I the fist bill has been the highest I have had so far. I just got my last bill and it was $135.18 with the inside temp set at 70 degrees. It has been very hot here for the last couple of months.

WOW I am very happy with the FOAM INSULATION.

That foam sure does a great job!!!! I've met a few people who paid the money to have it done, and all of them are saying the same thing. The energy usage is WAY DOWN!!!

How about a few more pics of the house now that you've settled in?

Eddie
 
 
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