Should I buy this truck?

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#101  
Just curious on the price you settled to buy the truck?
I bought a Mustang on AutoTrader without seeing the car in person back in 2014. I did due diligence in finding the seller on Facebook and corroborating his information and location. I talked with him on the phone. I paid him before going to get the car.
I hitched a ride with my brother who was heading that way (~900 miles).
Still my stomach was in knots the whole trip wondering if I made a mistake. Never again.
If not traveling to see it in person someone suggested hiring a mechanic to put eyes on it and look it through. This would give me the warm fuzzy.

Stop and think for a moment. You were buying a Mustang. A car, which you will use to travel around for relaxation, errands, fun, women in passenger seat, kids in back, etc.

This is a FARM truck! lol Lot different set of expectations than a Ford Mustang!

But the basic premise of what you are saying would be correct. Getting eyes on it would be preferred. I just don’t have the time to jump on a plane, fly/driv to buyers place from PA to AL and fly home.
Not as easy as it is to type out.
 
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#102  
Interestingly, the outfit I worked and drove for tried the super singles on their Reitnauer aluminum curtainside trailers for a time because they weigh less than conventional duals. The issue was, if any of the drivers experienced a flat on the road, away from the garage, they were screwed as the availability of (at that time at least) super singles was limited and with duals in the drives and trailer, you could have a flat on one of the duals and keep on truck'in, whereas a flat on a Super Single put you on the side of the road immediately.

No, you can’t “keep on truckin’ “ Not at highway speeds, anyway. The flat tire could frag or fly apart and you could kill someone.
Please don’t give deadly, stupid advice on my thread. Someone might actually believe you.
Please leave and take your old tired, BS stories elsewhere.
Not every tire shop at that time had super singles in stock
The 1970’s ended like 50 years ago.
They have carried them for like 20 years now, so once again, you’re FOS.
The military uses them because they have replacement rubber available, the private sector didn't at that time at least. Might have changed over the years I've been away from it but I do know my hunting buddy who runs a fleet of 56 Freightshaker Cascadia's leased to Fed-Ex, runs duals on all his tractors and wants nothing to do with Super Singles. Fed-Ex also runs duals on their trailers as well. Of course Fed-Ex never grosses out their trailers anyway. No package delivery outfit does that I know of.

Everyone is running singles on all positions of some trucks now. Ever seen a front tire on the steer axle, you know, the most important axle on the truck?
Tell me, is it a double or a single?

Gross or over gross is the realm of aggregate haulers and steel haaulers and over dimensional specialized carriers.

Ever seen a front discharge concrete truck? Might want to get out once in a while and check out what’s new since the 70’s.

When I drove for them, prior to retirement, I cannot remeber a time when I ran under gross, most times heavy because we were compensated by the hundredweight of cargo hauled, consequently, I always put a charge on the barge and so did all the other drivers.

Obviously you are living in the 1970’s.
More trucking companies are running singles than ever.
Technology improved them.

The 1970’s was over a long time ago.
 
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   / Should I buy this truck? #103  
It has 300,000 miles and 16,000 hours on it. That’s an average of 18.75 miles per hour. So lots of idling time while loding/unloading.

It was a drywall delivery truck. It had a moffet and a pup trailer.
Drywall, I'll double up my daily load estimate.😉
Putting a lumber "package" together at the yard takes some time. They can reload a drywall order in under an hour. 👍
Did they leave the pto and pump on the truck by any chance? That could be of some future use and add to the value.
 
   / Should I buy this truck? #104  
Quite a few trucks being used around here as "field" trucks for silage and haylage then the big liquid manure tankers. Very few have duals anymore almost all of them are running the DOT legal floater tires.
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They get very good traction and do surprising little damage to the fields.
 
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#106  
Drywall, I'll double up my daily load estimate.😉
Putting a lumber "package" together at the yard takes some time. They can reload a drywall order in under an hour. 👍
Did they leave the pto and pump on the truck by any chance? That could be of some future use and add to the value.
Yes, still has PTO!
 
   / Should I buy this truck? #107  
Yes, still has PTO!
Same outfit has a yard down here with a couple of 6x6's. Western Stars tho, not Sterlings. They used to park their for sales by the fence. I'll slip by there this week to see if they have any. Be closer for you to check out.
 
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#108  
Same outfit has a yard down here with a couple of 6x6's. Western Stars tho, not Sterlings. They used to park their for sales by the fence. I'll slip by there this week to see if they have any. Be closer for you to check out.
Just remember, needs to be an auto and have 24’ of frame. Stretching is too spendy.
 
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   / Should I buy this truck? #109  
^^^^ talk about some expensive rubber!
Compared to ?? getting stuck, extremely damaging to fields and productivity.

Myself I would rather not see the big trucks but more tractors and wagons, I'm still old school.

Many of these guys are hauling feed and manure 20 miles each way. A half a dozen or more big straight trucks or even big live bottom or dump tractor/trailer combinations. Using farm plates and possibly un or under licensed drivers.

Plus cost is a relative thing my rear tractor tires last fall were over $1200 each after considerable shopping around.
 
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#110  
I just bought a $3,000 rear tire last summer.
 
   / Should I buy this truck? #111  
Mine were only 30 inch rears.
 
   / Should I buy this truck? #112  
Stop and think for a moment. You were buying a Mustang. A car, which you will use to travel around for relaxation, errands, fun, women in passenger seat, kids in back, etc.

This is a FARM truck! lol Lot different set of expectations than a Ford Mustang!

But the basic premise of what you are saying would be correct. Getting eyes on it would be preferred. I just don’t have the time to jump on a plane, fly/driv to buyers place from PA to AL and fly home.
Not as easy as it is to type out.

If I was within 100 miles of this truck in Alabama I would do you a solid and go look at it for you. :D
 
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   / Should I buy this truck? #113  
ACERT engines are notorious for compromising spacer plates, failing turbo's and breaking exhaust manifold studs. In fact, Caterpillar offered a special tool-jig with high rockwell drills especially for drilling out and replacing broken exhaust studs. The number 2 service related issue in the Western Star dealership / shop I retired from was repairing ACERT engines, mainly spacer plates and exhaust studs and I drilled out many exhaust studs in my tenure there.

Keep in mind that when Caterpillar divoriced itself from the on road engine market, they have, since then, also divoriced themselves from the replacement parts business as well so today, replacement-upgrade parts are NLA from Caterpillar and replacement-upgrade parts come from mostly offshore manufacturers.

Candidly, I was never impressed with the torque rise of an ACERT engine in the first place and I got to motor them regularly when not in the shop getting dirty. I much preferred the 3406 Alphabet engines over it.

Horsepower means little in a diesel engine. People like to dwell on horsepower but in reality it's the torque rise that provides the work done when loaded. Horsepower means little.

In this country today and yesterday, people always seem to equate horsepower with performance when it's torque rise that makes productive work easier.

My 3406 B model that is presently sleeping in the barn is set at 475 horses but the advertised torque rating is 1750 pounds feet and it has no emission junk on it, never did actually.

475 horses was the maximum allowable by Caterpillar to keep in force the extended warranty that all the fleet trucks ran. Sure, you could shim the pump for more, way more actually, but above 475, Cat would deny any extended warranty claims.

Keep in mind that the more torque delivered, the higher the driveline issues became as well as drive tire wear.

The tractor I own has a 15 speed Eaton Roadranger in it and when the trailer is loaded (or should I say overloaded, which is the norm for a hopper bottom grain trailer, if you get on the loud pedal on the low side of the tranny, you can literally feel tire squirm and squirming tires equal accelerated wear and why I refrain from hard acceleration when taking off loaded. Tires today, especially today, aren't a cheap date and becaus the unit I own is more for a hobby deal, I'm always aware of inherent operating costs. Someday, I'll post up a picture of it. Not photogenic at all actually. Classic, long nose Western Star double bunk and a 42 foot Timpte hopper bottom tandem frameless grain trailer. Old school drum brakes and pennies in the front brake hoses to insure the front axle brakes are inoperable. Not a fan of steer axle brakes on any semi truck.
Most of the issues you noted were the C15 ACERT. The C13 rarely had any of those issues. And that's coming from my dealer Toromont Cat. My C13 never had a single issue set at 525/1650 torque.
I did buy all the extended warranty I could get though just to be safe because back in 2005 if anything went through the turbo's it would have been minimum 15 thousand dollars according to what Cat said it was costing the C15 guys.
Like the C12, that C13 was a strong little motor. I used to load 21 metric tonne of asphalt and pull out of driveway onto a 10% hill with two other friends that had Cummins ISX 565/1850's. We all had 18 speed double overs, 4.11 rears on 22.5 rubber and though I couldn't pass them I could stay on their tailgates and have to lift on throttle.
Ashamed it's dirty in this pic but it was winter time and I was doing an oil change.
 

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   / Should I buy this truck?
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#114  
Seller took down ad on truck and removed ad.
Aside from the camo paint, I liked that truck.
Especially the price. Took a lot of lookin to find it.
Now I have to start over…..again…
 
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   / Should I buy this truck? #115  
Sorry if I missed it in posts Hay Dude...what rear suspension does it have?
 
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Sorry if I missed it in posts Hay Dude...what rear suspension does it have?
I don’t know. It don’t think it said in the ad. Pics didn’t show.
I’m pretty sad I missed on this one.
Was too busy to call buyer and have extended discussion about it and he was just as busy as me.
 
   / Should I buy this truck? #117  
Oh okay, lol Most did come with Tuff-Trac, which was a pretty good suspension as far as ride and traction.
 
   / Should I buy this truck? #118  
I see Cat is coming out with a T4-5 emissions compliant engine badged a 3406 something. Will be interesting in as much as the 3406 compliant engine was a inefficient bust for Cat. Don't even physically resemble a 3406 series except for the paint job.

Far as ACERT issues, 'my dealer said' don't hold water with me because I got my hands dirty working on them, larger displasement and smaller displacement. Some were just fine, some were problematic but all the emissions compliant 3406 Series with the 'furnace' were problematic. Least the Cats didn't puke coolant mixed with engine oil like the DDEC engines did or the Cummins engines that ate themselves from failed ceramic furl pump rollers failing.

Got to see all of them, close up and personal.

Once the EPA got involved with their emissions mandates, everything went downhill rather quickly.
 
   / Should I buy this truck? #120  
I only ever bought one vehicle sight unseen except for photos. FL70 extended cab, 3126 CAT, 9 spd, flatbed, 450k miles. The truck was in Louisiana. I agreed to pay the asking price of the sell we would drive it to KY.

Everything was fine until I looked the truck over. Not 450k but 550k. "Oh", the ad was not corrected said the seller. I bought it anyway. He tossed the cash into a duffle bag.

I took us to breakfast while the seller waited on a friend from Tennessee to pick him up. LOL, I never saw anyone put that much salt on food. A true Cajun?

A couple of days later he called me up. Said that he got home and went fishing. The duffle bag with the cash, he lost it from the truck that they were in.

I told him that I did not know if I should laugh or cry for him.
 

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