Tires Popping a Tire Bead

[M5farms]

for small tires I prefer This


big tires I prefer this

 

[LD1]

I don't like tubes in a tubeless tire.
Might I inquire as to why you keep loosing air?

Mine was mostly thorns and suck working through the tire. Tried tubes for a year. Was constantly patching them.

Go to an agreement tire shop and have them put in a "Thorn guard" or whatever they carry. Kinda like slime. But you want enough in there that the liquid at least covers the bead s o. The bottom of the tire. Probably a gallon per tire.

Products like slime don't work nearly as well in a tube. Cause the material is just too thin to seal. Tire carcass is much thicker.

 

[robertm]

I don't like tubes in a tubeless tire.
Might I inquire as to why you keep loosing air?

Mine was mostly thorns and suck working through the tire. Tried tubes for a year. Was constantly patching them.

Go to an agreement tire shop and have them put in a "Thorn guard" or whatever they carry. Kinda like slime. But you want enough in there that the liquid at least covers the bead s o. The bottom of the tire. Probably a gallon per tire.

Products like slime don't work nearly as well in a tube. Cause the material is just too thin to seal. Tire carcass is much thicker.

Losing air like so many BX's do. Apparently the beads. I don't like any slime or thorn guard. I have seen the inside of wheels after a few years, and they are corroded terribly. I see no issue with tubes in a tubeless tire.its just that I lose 12 pounds in one week.

 

[LD1]

The issue with tubes is you have a very thin layer or rubber and it punctures easily. And when it does get a leak you have to dismount to patch, which could be a few hours of swearing.BTDT. Tubeless though, grab a plug kit and I'm back running in 10 min if I get a punctures

 

[George the Beagle]

After trying to drive over mine which didn't work, I took it down to the local tire shop, and they broke the bead in about ten seconds. Didn't charge me, either. Got lucky that day.

 

[crazyal]

Take the valve core out and drive on the tire for a few feet while steering back and forth. Tractor tires don't have a bead like a car tire so they come off much easier. Just stay close to where you are going to do the work to avoid driving too far on the flat tire.

 

[Wsmitty]

This will do it pretty easy Mini-Tire Changer just did some 20x8-10 front tires off a kubota, couldn't break them with the loader and this changed them easy. Took about 5 min a tire to change once I figured it out.

I replaced the front tires on my JD 790 with this. I mounted the mini tire changer to this. Hitch Mount Vise Plate

Just be aware the alignment disc on mini tire changer is pretty small. It wasn't a large enough diameter to capture the ID of the wheel. I luckily had an old drive hub off my lawn tractor spindle laying around that I was able to use instead.

I'm glad I saved the old tubes because the new tubeless tires seem to leak down over a week or so. I might try one more time to get the beads to seat better or it's back to the tubes. Either way this mini changer makes it a snap to break the tires down.

 

[SDT]

On your BX, let the air out and drive it slowly a few feet and it will pop off.

SDT

 

[SDT]

I don't like tubes in a tubeless tire.
Might I inquire as to why you keep loosing air?

Mine was mostly thorns and suck working through the tire. Tried tubes for a year. Was constantly patching them.

Go to an agreement tire shop and have them put in a "Thorn guard" or whatever they carry. Kinda like slime. But you want enough in there that the liquid at least covers the bead s o. The bottom of the tire. Probably a gallon per tire.

Products like slime don't work nearly as well in a tube. Cause the material is just too thin to seal. Tire carcass is much thicker.

I put tubes in the front turf tires on my B1750 about 12+ years ago. No issues since.

The sealing rubber layer in the small tubeless tires used in such applications deteriorates with time and will not hold air after a few years. Mine were not leaking at the beads and had no punctures.

SDT

 

[MNBobcat]

I did tires professionally for a couple of years.

I'm surprised nobody knows about this option. The best way to break the bead is with a wood splitting wedge. You lay the tire down, insert the wedge towards the bead, step on the wedge to hold it place and then drive it in with a hammer. Work your way around until the bead pops loose. Simple as can be and works like a champ!

 

[topbuilder]

Thanks. I'll have to try that. I have always used a tire hammer but this sounds like less it would be less risk of damaging the rim.

 

[PILOON]

LOL, I popped a tire using my FEL, the problem was that my tooth bar made some nice holes in the tire.
(It was scrapped anyhow and I was replacing it)

It is amazing how a little rust around the bead area can make removal difficult.
For that reason a thoroughly clean rim seating area is important as is a lube or sealing paste.

 

[robertm]

Thanks everyone. I'm a bit overloaded right now. Maybe this weekend I'll try your suggestions.

 

[Henro]

Or, although you did not ask, consider getting the front tires foam filled. No more worries about air leaks or flats...worked for me!

Added weight increases stability on side slopes. I ended up getting my rears foam filled too. Now I am comfortable on pretty steep side slopes...don't blink an eye on 30 degree side slopes on the BX. 15 degrees on the larger tractor makes me pucker!

Bill

 

[MRCONCDID]

I have used the side of my bucket many times to break a tire bead, small mower tires up to large truck tires, I have found that rotating the tire between several presses using the bucket, basically loosening the the bead rather than just ripping it off (don't use a cutting edge or tooth bar), you can also press the tire with the loader bucket and hold it, then hit the tire with a large hammer.
As for inserting the tube, it would be alot easier if both beads were broken and you pry off one side only, so you can lift the tire up, place blocks of wood or bricks to hold it up, while the rim is flat on the ground, position the tube evenly around the tire, then pry the tire back on the rim and inflate.

tractor tires can be heavy and stiff, laying the tire out in the sun for a few hours will soften them up a bit too. For those who use either or starting fluid, I take the valve stem core out before setting the bead, this way some of the pressure can escape after the bead is set. ( a little less dangerous). Be careful, fingers don't grow back. and always chain the rim to something it can jump 10 feet when the bead sets. before using either I always try air from a pig ( small tank with a large valve ) while a clip on air line constantly blows in the valve stem. for small tires a clip on air line blowing while I bounce the tire in the vertical position has worked many times for small garden style tires. I only use either as a last resort, I have seen a tire explode, not pretty, the bead had been ripped and the tire blew off the rim while setting the bead, lucky the rim was held down to the tire changing machine.

Just some advice from a former tire changer.
MrC.

 

[dfkrug]

And when it does get a leak you have to dismount to patch, which could be a few hours of
swearing.BTDT. Tubeless though, grab a plug kit and I'm back running in 10 min if I get a punctures

Exactly right. If you put tubes in your wheels, they can't be plugged. The only times I go to tubes is
if the wheel is so rusty that the beads won't seal, even with Slime.

I change all my tractor tires manually. Breaking the beads is much easier than with car or ATV wheels
as there is no lip to overcome.

 

[CincyFlyer]

I had to do this in the field a couple of weeks ago (after I broke off a valve stem.) I just turned the wheels sharply to one side and backed up! Popped that baby off now.

 

[BubbaJr]

To re-seat the tire on the rim, I used a ratchet strap around the circumference of the tire, and cinch it up until the tire makes contact with the rim. Then add air until the bead pops, loosen strap, continue to fill with air. Worked great on front tire, never had to try it on rear tire though.

Joe

 

[topbuilder]

"For those who use either or starting fluid, I take the valve stem core out before setting the bead, this way some of the pressure can escape after the bead is set."

Only think I would add to that is, resist the temptation to stop the air from exiting the valve core by putting a finger over it...