New 2025 Ram 1500 with hurricane engine.

   / New 2025 Ram 1500 with hurricane engine. #121  
That's not true of Japanese service in the industries that I am familiar with. For instance, here on the west coast we get a steady stream of used car and truck engines from Japan with 50-80k miles on them that were "serviced" out to give the owners a new engine.
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if the Japanese built some differences into the cars produced for their own market, versus those built for export, based on documented differences in majority maintenance practices between various markets. They build these vehicles in such huge numbers, and brand image and reliability is such an important issue for them, that it could be a very justifiable cost built into their system.

Heck, they already tailor their emissions equipment to each national market. So why not other things, like oil pumps and bearings, based on the typical or majority maintenance tendencies of one nation's owners, versus another?
 
   / New 2025 Ram 1500 with hurricane engine. #122  
   / New 2025 Ram 1500 with hurricane engine.
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It's awesome.

But, Ram trucks can use AlfaOBD and essentially do the same things. A lot of what dealerships can do is possible at home now, and it's great.

For the record, there are a LOT of reports coming in that the 3.0TT engine in the new Ram isn't reliable and even things like water pumps are 12 hour labor jobs. Typical euro design. They couldn't design a paper bag correctly. I would find a leftover 5.7L V8 Ram if I had to buy new right now.
Beg to differ with you.My good friend works at the Chelsea(Chrysler ) proving grounds (Lead engineer ) been friends for 25 plus years. He told me this engine is a very good reliable engine ..Time will tell.If you do enough reading on the 5,7 hemi they're not bullet proof by any means.The inline 6cy twin turbos have been out now for 3 years in the jeep wagoner.So NOT really a 1st year engine.
 
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   / New 2025 Ram 1500 with hurricane engine. #124  
You could have had this!!!

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   / New 2025 Ram 1500 with hurricane engine. #126  
I had a 78 just like that, except it was 2 tone blue.
I also had a 78 Ford. Spritz a little water near them, and they start to rust. :ROFLMAO: Must have been the mostly quickly-rusting vehicles on the road, maybe only rivaled by Datsun.

I always heard that Ford changed their steel supply around 77-78, to comply with new environmental regulations regarding some of the rust-inhibiting coatings applied to their early-70's vehicles, and this was why their late-70's truck bodies rusted almost while watching them. I don't know if the reasoning was true, but the results speak for themselves.

I would guess that very few 78/79 Ford trucks in daily use have survived our northeast US road salts, but perhaps the desert southwest is still flush with them. I think they were mechanically very sound trucks, if not for the bad steel or coatings in the bodies.
 
   / New 2025 Ram 1500 with hurricane engine. #128  
I also had a 78 Ford. Spritz a little water near them, and they start to rust. :ROFLMAO: Must have been the mostly quickly-rusting vehicles on the road, maybe only rivaled by Datsun.

I always heard that Ford changed their steel supply around 77-78, to comply with new environmental regulations regarding some of the rust-inhibiting coatings applied to their early-70's vehicles, and this was why their late-70's truck bodies rusted almost while watching them. I don't know if the reasoning was true, but the results speak for themselves.

I would guess that very few 78/79 Ford trucks in daily use have survived our northeast US road salts, but perhaps the desert southwest is still flush with them. I think they were mechanically very sound trucks, if not for the bad steel or coatings in the bodies.

I have traveled the S Utah, N. Arizona area pretty extensively. My wife and I love it there.
It’s freaky cool how vehicles there do not rust. Very common to see 60’s & 70’s trucks in the desert that look great.
After traveling around there, you wonder why you’d ever buy a northeastern vehicle again.
 
   / New 2025 Ram 1500 with hurricane engine. #129  
I also had a 78 Ford. Spritz a little water near them, and they start to rust. :ROFLMAO: Must have been the mostly quickly-rusting vehicles on the road, maybe only rivaled by Datsun.

I always heard that Ford changed their steel supply around 77-78, to comply with new environmental regulations regarding some of the rust-inhibiting coatings applied to their early-70's vehicles, and this was why their late-70's truck bodies rusted almost while watching them. I don't know if the reasoning was true, but the results speak for themselves.

I would guess that very few 78/79 Ford trucks in daily use have survived our northeast US road salts, but perhaps the desert southwest is still flush with them. I think they were mechanically very sound trucks, if not for the bad steel or coatings in the bodies.
I had mine in Flagstaff that is in the southwest, but not desert. The difference is what the highway department uses to treat ice. In Flagstaff they would plow the road, then spread volcanic cinders, not salt. I would go through windshields annually because of flying cinders but no body rust occurred.
 
   / New 2025 Ram 1500 with hurricane engine. #131  
Not Ram, or trucks, but I just saw a video with someone bragging about 0% down, and $580 for 287 months fiancing on a Mecedes C class. That's 24 years... and $166k.
 
   / New 2025 Ram 1500 with hurricane engine. #132  
Not Ram, or trucks, but I just saw a video with someone bragging about 0% down, and $580 for 287 months fiancing on a Mecedes C class. That's 24 years... and $166k.
I paid less than that for my first house, in the late 1990's. But I wasn't driving a Mercedes.

Priorities.
 
   / New 2025 Ram 1500 with hurricane engine. #133  
I didn't read all the answers, but I think it sucks that they don't have a dipstick!

You have to depend on a light, I REALLY don't like that.

SR
It looks like it has an electronic level gauge.

 
   / New 2025 Ram 1500 with hurricane engine. #134  
It looks like it has an electronic level gauge.

If it's a proximity sensor with no moving parts, it's assuredly more accurate and reliable than 99.99% of the driving public, remembering to check their dipsticks with any regularity. They have to play to the odds, when trying to improve their reliability ratings, as that's an important marketing metric for them.

Of course, to Rob's point, a sensor and a dipstick would have been nice for those of us who actually like to check such things.
 
   / New 2025 Ram 1500 with hurricane engine. #136  
Not Ram, or trucks, but I just saw a video with someone bragging about 0% down, and $580 for 287 months fiancing on a Mecedes C class. That's 24 years... and $166k.

Probably “no credit check” either.
For someone dumb enough to pay $100,000 in interest on a “status” car, one has to think the banks figure “what the heck”.
 
   / New 2025 Ram 1500 with hurricane engine. #137  
Of course, to Rob's point, a sensor and a dipstick would have been nice for those of us who actually like to check such things.
There’s no room for a dipstick 😂
Where’s the I6 engine block?
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   / New 2025 Ram 1500 with hurricane engine. #139  
Another $5 part replaced by a $100+ sensor that probably requires a dealer to 'calibrate' it

“It’s all about the Benjamins” aint it?
 
   / New 2025 Ram 1500 with hurricane engine. #140  
I've always heard that in Japanese vs German vehicles, there are totally different cultural assumptions.
In Germany, they make the assumption that if the "book" say to service/replace Part A at 50,000 miles, people will; because it says to, and everyone follows the rules.
In Japan, the assumption is that people will not do the required services, and that it needs to be designed to work even if the service isn't done.

I think in the US, the assumption is, it will fail and break regardless, so keep it cheap, and the customer really only needs it to last to the end of warranty, but it does have to "look cool".

The Americans I know, myself included, view it this way: It's going to eventually break or need service, so design it in a way that makes it easy to repair or service.

We have another term for this. We call it "common sense". My problem with EVERYTHING European that's been in my driveway over the last 20 years is that it was designed the exact opposite of this. Working on a BMW car once...needed a starter...the entire upper intake manifold had to come off because the starter was in the valley of the engine. What idiot decided that would be a good idea? The current 2.0L turbo engines in Jeeps...a timing job is a 20 hour labor job on a 4 cylinder engine?? The current 3.0L turbo engines in Ram trucks and Jeeps is the same way. The packaging is an absolute nightmare, and the parts are not designed to last. The engineering in general that I see just makes no sense to me at all. It's as if they expect you to throw it away and buy another one first time something fails. They don't even use oil dipsticks anymore, so now you can't physically look at the condition/level of the vital engine oil. It's just maddening. What about the "EcoDiesel" engines in Ram trucks and Jeeps? Those are straight out of Italy and they're complete garbage. It's rare to see one with 150k miles on it.

My wife bought a new MINI Cooper in 2011. Had engine work done under warranty in the first 12 months of ownership. She ended up trading it for a 2012 the following year because she got tired of shifting gears. The 2012 also had engine work done in the first year. Twelve years passed and last year she bought a brand new 2024 MINI Cooper. Guess what? We just took it to the dealership for an engine related recall last month with only 16,000 miles on the clock.

I don't say this to be "racist" at all, it's just a fact to me that Europeans couldn't design a paper bag correctly and that's why I will not touch a Ram/Jeep/Dodge product built recently. Stellantis is putting too much of a Euro touch on these new vehicles, the reliability is going down the tube, and their sales are falling off a cliff. They are consistently showing the largest sales decreases of any domestic auto maker.
 

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