My Micro Hydro Project

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So I researched Micro hydro for probably 10 years and finally decided to pull the trigger on it since the political climate isn’t very promising and I retired and needed A project.
I did post a about this a few months ago on another thread but Inthought I’d start my own and show my progress.

My system measurements are 500+ gpm flow 990 feet of 8” penstock and 60 ft of head. I have two turgo turbines custom made my Spencer at Langston Alternative Power. A Growatt split phase 12k inverter going into six Lifepo4 Lithium Phosphate batteries. Along with 20 230w solar panels that will be installed in the spring.
I guess I’ll start at the beginning. I hand built the weir from rocks on my property.(pic#1) This took WAY longer than expected and was very time consuming. I’m talking over 100 bags of motar/ concrete used. I also poured the concrete box that the coanda screen sits on. (Pic#2)This saved my about 6k verses buying a prefabbed stainless steel one sized to my system.
I then buried the 8” penstock in the Very rocky ground just beside the creek. (pic#3) My Ford 555 backhoe didn’t miss a beat in the rocky soil.
990 ft later ( and about 4 months..lol ) I got to the end of the penstock run and installed the turbines. (Pic 4,5) Due to the huge rocks down off this hill, I couldn’t get the powerhouse floor and the penstock completely square but I got it workable and close enough.
I am now working on burying the wire 360ft up to my house and to the inverter and battery bank.

I have done this project 100% solo so far. I ran into some pretty good roadblocks along the way. The huge rocks were an issue. I had to buy an electric jack hammer to break up some of the absolute huge rocks I couldnt dig out with the backhoe and just cut a wedge out of them to allow the pipe to sit properly.one rock took me about 6 hours of constant hammering. Not fun at all.
then getting my backhoe back out of the thicket / woods because the pipe wasn’t buried yet and a snowstorm was coming took two full days of cutting trees brush. I finally got it back home safe and sound.
once I get the line to the house buried it’s on to installing a sub panel. This is the part that I may have to recruit an electrician friend to at least look over once I’m done installing.
So that is my progress so far. Any advice and or questions are always welcomed.
 

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Great job keep us updated.
 
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Yes I have a comment, WOW. Nice project and show us your project.
 
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Very cool project ... I always wanted to build some like that, is your stream flows all year round? where about are you located? is the winter is going to affect the stream flow or its components?
 
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Thats a lot of work you have done there, thanks for posting. Hope you will continue to post on your progress.
 
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Awesome project. I never knew that hydro power could be scalable. This is great. Keep up the good work KTM!
 
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Very cool project ... I always wanted to build some like that, is your stream flows all year round? where about are you located? is the winter is going to affect the stream flow or its I live in the mountains on the western and/Wv border.
Very cool project ... I always wanted to build some like that, is your stream flows all year round? where about are you located? is the winter is going to affect the stream flow or its components?
Very cool project ... I always wanted to build some like that, is your stream flows all year round? where about are you located? is the winter is going to affect the stream flow or its components?
I live in the mountains on the Wv/Md border and our summers are very cool. We don’t even have AC at all. Just ceiling fans. So we designed this system to get the max out of the winter time flow. I should make enough power to not only power but to also heat
My house in the winter. We just installed a Mr Cool universal heat pump.
The stream slows way down in the summer which is why we also have 20 solar panels to supplement the system. But like I said we don’t have AC so our power needs are much less in the summer months. Even though the new heat pump does have AC we will probably rarely use it if ever.
 
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Awesome project. I never knew that hydro power could be scalable. This is great. Keep up the good work KTM!
It’s actually very scalable. I’ve seen some systems as small as just a few hundred watts using just a 2” poly line.
There are many examples on youtube
 
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So I researched Micro hydro for probably 10 years and finally decided to pull the trigger on it since the political climate isn’t very promising and I retired and needed A project.
I did post a about this a few months ago on another thread but Inthought I’d start my own and show my progress.

My system measurements are 500+ gpm flow 990 feet of 8” penstock and 60 ft of head. I have two turgo turbines custom made my Spencer at Langston Alternative Power. A Growatt split phase 12k inverter going into six Lifepo4 Lithium Phosphate batteries. Along with 20 230w solar panels that will be installed in the spring.
I guess I’ll start at the beginning. I hand built the weir from rocks on my property.(pic#1) This took WAY longer than expected and was very time consuming. I’m talking over 100 bags of motar/ concrete used. I also poured the concrete box that the coanda screen sits on. (Pic#2)This saved my about 6k verses buying a prefabbed stainless steel one sized to my system.
I then buried the 8” penstock in the Very rocky ground just beside the creek. (pic#3) My Ford 555 backhoe didn’t miss a beat in the rocky soil.
990 ft later ( and about 4 months..lol ) I got to the end of the penstock run and installed the turbines. (Pic 4,5) Due to the huge rocks down off this hill, I couldn’t get the powerhouse floor and the penstock completely square but I got it workable and close enough.
I am now working on burying the wire 360ft up to my house and to the inverter and battery bank.

I have done this project 100% solo so far. I ran into some pretty good roadblocks along the way. The huge rocks were an issue. I had to buy an electric jack hammer to break up some of the absolute huge rocks I couldnt dig out with the backhoe and just cut a wedge out of them to allow the pipe to sit properly.one rock took me about 6 hours of constant hammering. Not fun at all.
then getting my backhoe back out of the thicket / woods because the pipe wasn’t buried yet and a snowstorm was coming took two full days of cutting trees brush. I finally got it back home safe and sound.
once I get the line to the house buried it’s on to installing a sub panel. This is the part that I may have to recruit an electrician friend to at least look over once I’m done installing.
So that is my progress so far. Any advice and or questions are always welcomed.
KTMrider

A couple of questions about the project come to mind:
What voltage do the turbines generate?
what voltage do the solar panels generate?
Does the inverter have to 'play nice' with both inputs?
Does the voltage drop on a 360 foot run require increased wire size?
Is there GFCI/AFCI protection on the electrical outputs?
DC/AC outputs?

I have a 7500 watt solar array installed 3 years ago. I ran into voltage drop concerns
that required conductor upsizing due to inverter manufacturer requirements. Added to the costs.
The DC output on the array is 400v +/-.
And since the AC voltages at my place 'run hot' -125/250volts, I had to fine tune the inverter output.


I am following this with interest because in the future I will add battery bank to the system.
(I get yearly incentive from my utilty right now so when that expires the batteries will go in.)

Great job and good luck,

regards.

R
 

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