Flail Mower Let's talk flail mowers

[John0829]

Why go though all the adjustment PIA if the tractor is not setup to do it easily, make up a set of limit chains.

 

[LMychajluk]

Why go though all the adjustment PIA if the tractor is not setup to do it easily, make up a set of limit chains.

I wasn't familiar with using 'limit chains', but after a bit of Googling, I kind of get the idea, but am wondering how they may work on a ditch bank mower when the top link bracket gets shifted out the to the side or tilted 90deg. I can't see how the chain would limit the height of the mower w/o limiting the articulation, but once I get the mower back on the tractor, I'll better be able to visualize.

 

[LouNY]

Most limit chains are to set the maximum drop/lowering of your lift arms.

 

[LouNY]

Well heck I hooked up my ditch bank mower, moved it over in the shade to grease it and check it over.
While greasing it needed to swing it out to access a few of the grease fittings.
Started to swing it out and it only went a foot or so, what the h, tried it a couple of more times.
Damn did I get lines crossed???
Nope , no such luck.
I had forgotten about the "transport" "safety" pin.
My Branson still has good hydraulic pressure, enough to start to collapse the rectangular tubing the main beam is made from were the front side swing pivot pin is mounted too.
So I guess I'll be ordering some rectangular tube and flat stock to plate it with and then I'll be doing some disassembly, cutting, fitting and welding.
Just what I wanted to do in this hot weather.

 

[Riddlewitz]

Question for the experts. Are these worth restoring to use in several steep hilly areas behind a Honda Rincon 4 wheeler? I have one complete flail and a parts unit so it seems like I would only need tires, wheels, and bearings etc. They came with new blades, a blade turning bar etc. I use a Mott flail behind a small Ford tractor for less hilly areas. Thanks in advance.

 

[leonz]

Depends on your useable skills and the size of your tool box.

Tires and wheels you can get from Palmetto Tire.

If your Honda has a winch you could purchase Rammy atv Flail mower
or buy my 48 inch Mathews lawn genie pick up mower and tow it behind
the Honda.

 

[Riddlewitz]

Thanks. Leonz

Plenty of tools. I slowed a bit on the project as I can’t find any wheels or tires on the website you mentioned. I can bring the wheels to tractor supply to get tires fitted. I’m in WA. Not sure where you are. Yes my Honda has a winch. Mathew’s flail is very cool. Thanks

 

[LouNY]

Well my "little" whops from the other day is going to be fun;

good..................................................................not so good

Got some 2x5 inch rectangular tube ordered and some flat stock for gussets,
I'll be going about a foot back and cutting the original off, then trim of the upright to weld to a new piece of rectangular then weld the tubing together and add a couple of gussets to the sides were I weld it.

Didn't do much this morning only outside for a couple of hours, high heat and high humidity and I don't work well in those conditions.

 

[LouNY]

Well I've made some progress over the last few days;
It became even more interesting when my new tubing was about 3/8 inch taller then the factory,

...........................................................a few clamps and a piece of angle iron the length of the beam

Time to start cutting out the gussets to plate the sides and strap iron to plate the top and bottom.

The $600 for a new beam is starting to look better all the time.
Wouldn't be so bad if I could keep after it instead of just a few hours at a time, getting old sucks,
but still better then the alternative.

 

[leonz]

Hello Lou,

I hope you are tolerating the dry weather, I am for sure,
for once it is nice to see the clay all caked up and dried
out in my sod that passes for lawn.

Does the swing circuit cylinder on your shredder have a
relief valve or a flow metering valve?

I have not bothered to take the tarp off the Lawn Genie
pick up mower at all this season so far.


Leon

 

[LouNY]

Hello Lou,

I hope you are tolerating the dry weather, I am for sure,
for once it is nice to see the clay all caked up and dried
out in my sod that passes for lawn.

Does the swing circuit cylinder on your shredder have a
relief valve or a flow metering valve?

I have not bothered to take the tarp off the Lawn Genie
pick up mower at all this season so far.


Leon

No it does not there is a mechanical breakaway swing on the hitch but no hydraulic relief.

Making progress on the repair, weld the gussets on the sides of the beam, then a shot of paint, clean the bushings real well, grease and assemble.

gussets cut out and drilled for plug welds...........top and bottom gussets welded on

 

[KenBike]

Picked up the new Landpride FM2584 Fail mower last night. Hooked it up to my L6060 and took it out for a test mow. Set the rear roller for 6" cut and the front horse padock that is mixed grass and clover about 12" high. I used different speeds from 2.5 - 5 mph with rpm at 540 and it cut great except the long grass in the tire tracks. it was cut but ends up being about 2 ' longer than the grass not in the tire tracks. Went back and lowered the cut height to 5" thinking the mower would be able to pull up the long grass but did not make a large improvement.

The grass is really moist with about 5 ' of rain in the last 7 days in NE Ohio area so maybe if it was dryer it would pick up better.

 

[RjCorazza]

Higher settings make for a lesser quality cut in my experience. My flail cuts what I consider acceptable beginning at about 3", which I think is where it's set now.

 

[John0829]

When I first got my old NH 918H the rotor turned in the opposite direction to the tires and it left the strip you are talking about. Fortunately the old flail could be made to turn in the same direction as the tires and now it picks up the pushed over grasses, no more strip.

My old Mott/Alamo I also have came from the factory with the rotor turning the same direction as the tires and it just makes more sense to me for that to be the way for the rotor to turn so it can pick up the pushed over grasses.

 

[Fallon]

I cut around 5-6" high for better grass health. I deal with raised tire tracks a lot. Not worth it to mow fields & pastures low enough to get rid of the tracks.

 

[dieselscout80]

I cut around 5-6" high for better grass health. I deal with raised tire tracks a lot. Not worth it to mow fields & pastures low enough to get rid of the tracks.

I wonder how hard it would be to make hydraulic driven brush like system to pull the grass up after the tires but before the mower?

 

[Fallon]

I wonder how hard it would be to make hydraulic driven brush like system to pull the grass up after the tires but before the mower?

Peruzzo makes what is basically a hydraulically powered weed eater head that hangs off the side of the flail mower. For trimming fence lines. I don't remember if it was self powered with a hydraulic pump off the flail gearbox or ran off the tractor hydraulics. At any rate it was $1-2k 5 odd years ago. I'd imagine that would be a starting point.

 

[LouNY]

There is a reason why every hay mower or green forage chopper are offset or front mounted. Once a tire rolls over something it is going to be knocked down and flattened.

 

[LouNY]

Well making progress on my flail mowers beam;

Working on the side gussets......................................done

Getting it painted up, next step install

Of course the other day one of my brothers came by, after I had butt welded the tubing and welded on the top and bottom straps. He was standing there and said would have been easier just to cut both ends off and just replace all the tube would have been less work and welding.
Yep, it sure would have, where were you last week with the good ideas

 

[RayIN]

SOLD,
I don't know if this is allowed or not, mods do your thing.
I saw this on facebook marketplace a few minutes ago. Is is a good deal? Then my financial manager said no. It's anyone's game.
I do think it's a good match for my MF 451 though.