Flail Mower Let's talk flail mowers

[leonz]

I just put about 15 hours of use on my new flail mower, this flail cuts with the nifes spinning in the same dirrection as the tractor moves im not shure the bennifits of this but as comparision my side arm flail mower cuts in reverse to the dirrection of travel and seems to have a much larger amount of vacume pulling the grass up and out the back of the cutter. It seems that most of the grass clipping on this mower gets thrown against the larg roller and doesnt get tossed out the back like i thought it would, now this isnt a probblem it just not what i thought would happen,
As far as performance goes this flail mower seems to load the tractor down just the same way as my 6 foot rotory cutter did it also bogs down in some areas of the feild just as the rotory cutter did so for me im still moweing at the same grownd speed as i did with the 6 foot rotory cutter. the main differance is that its cutting a wider path, it dosnt throw objects out the back not even grass clippings and when you do hit something like a rock its compleatly un-eventful. my 6 foot rotory mower has thrown wire and other metal objust into my rear tires and brocken out my windows, i cant see this ever happening with the flail.
As of now im mowing feilds that i previously mowed with rotory cutters and it left rows of dead grass and it will be a while till all the piled up grass clipping have rotted away.
the only thing i dont like is that it cant mow in reverse because the roller pushes the grass down out of the way of the cutter nives.
oh ya i ran over a tire today and all it did was make some noise and then jump over the tire the rotory cutter would have scared the heck out of me and then sent the tire into the next county

YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I am cetainly glad that the first test flight of
the 8404 flail mower went well and the new
beast of burden did well for you.

Just keep up with the regular greasing and
checking the V-belts occasionally.


You need to check the knives and hangers after
visiting with the old tire it smacked just to be
sure the cotter pins are still bent up if you have
them and check you knives for damage.



I am glad that the flailmower is meeting your
expectations.


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Once you go flail you never go back:thumbsup::licking::drool:

 

[KYThrill]

I want a flail mower and I have a decision to make. I found a used Alamo 62" flail mower for $1250 shipped to my door. From the pictures provided me, it looks immaculate, barely used and little to no rust. The seller claims it works and is ready to cut grass. However, I would have to buy it over the net, so the potential is always there to get a lemon.

My other option is a new Caroni TL1500 (59") for $1750 shipped.

Neither comes with a PTO shaft, but hopefully I have something already that will work.

I know everyone loves their Caroni's and I also hear good about Alamo, but I haven't read about anyone using their 62" model. I know the Alamo outweighs the Caroni by a good 350 pounds, which is good, since I use an implement as ballast for my FEL. Could it be too heavy for my tractor? I currently use a 569 lb tiller plus filled tires for ballast, and the Alamo is 815 pounds. Put the PTO lift capacity is 1600+ lbs, so it shouldn't be a problem.

I think both are centered on the PTO and the rear track of my TC25D is 62", so the Alamo seems to be a perfect fit (should completely mow my tracks).

Any suggestions?

 

[Rusty]

My other option is a new Caroni TL1500 (59") for $1750 shipped.

Neither comes with a PTO shaft, but hopefully I have something already that will work.

KYThrill - I assume the new Caroni TL1500 is from Agri Supply. Mine came with the PTO shaft. You should verify with them.

[qoute]I think both are centered on the PTO and the rear track of my TC25D is 62", so the Alamo seems to be a perfect fit (should completely mow my tracks).[/quote]

The Caroni TL 1500 has a fixed offset of 9.5" to the right (looking forward), so your left rear tire track will not be covered.

 

[leonz]

I want a flail mower and I have a decision to make. I found a used Alamo 62" flail mower for $1250 shipped to my door. From the pictures provided me, it looks immaculate, barely used and little to no rust. The seller claims it works and is ready to cut grass. However, I would have to buy it over the net, so the potential is always there to get a lemon.

My other option is a new Caroni TL1500 (59") for $1750 shipped.

Neither comes with a PTO shaft, but hopefully I have something already that will work.

I know everyone loves their Caroni's and I also hear good about Alamo, but I haven't read about anyone using their 62" model. I know the Alamo outweighs the Caroni by a good 350 pounds, which is good, since I use an implement as ballast for my FEL. Could it be too heavy for my tractor? I currently use a 569 lb tiller plus filled tires for ballast, and the Alamo is 815 pounds. Put the PTO lift capacity is 1600+ lbs, so it shouldn't be a problem.

I think both are centered on the PTO and the rear track of my TC25D is 62", so the Alamo seems to be a perfect fit (should completely mow my tracks).

Any suggestions?

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The three Caroni TL model 1500 Millimeter width flail mower models
have a weight difference from 472 pounds to 485 pounds.

Parts are available for the both the Alamo and Caroni flail mowers.
All bearings are metric, all V belts are metric so thats not an issue.
The V belts and bearings are common and obtainable from Flailmaster,
Farm and Fleet, W.W. Grainger, McmasterCarr, NAPA and others.

The flail mower grass slicers for the Alamo Flail Mower are available
from several manufacturers.


Most of it depends on you, your mechanical ability and mowing conditions.

Do you even know which flail mower rotor is on the Alamo Flail Mower?
Do you know which knive type is on the Alamo Flail Mower?


Do you know which flail mower rotor you wish to purchase on the
1500 M.M. Caroni flail mower model?




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Once you go flail you never go back:thumbsup::licking::drool:

 

[leonz]

I want a flail mower and I have a decision to make. I found a used Alamo 62" flail mower for $1250 shipped to my door. From the pictures provided me, it looks immaculate, barely used and little to no rust. The seller claims it works and is ready to cut grass. However, I would have to buy it over the net, so the potential is always there to get a lemon.

My other option is a new Caroni TL1500 (59") for $1750 shipped.

Neither comes with a PTO shaft, but hopefully I have something already that will work.

I know everyone loves their Caroni's and I also hear good about Alamo, but I haven't read about anyone using their 62" model. I know the Alamo outweighs the Caroni by a good 350 pounds, which is good, since I use an implement as ballast for my FEL. Could it be too heavy for my tractor? I currently use a 569 lb tiller plus filled tires for ballast, and the Alamo is 815 pounds. Put the PTO lift capacity is 1600+ lbs, so it shouldn't be a problem.

I think both are centered on the PTO and the rear track of my TC25D is 62", so the Alamo seems to be a perfect fit (should completely mow my tracks).

Any suggestions?

If you purchase the Alamo flail mower parts
and repairs are no problem.

If you purchase the Alamo flail mower you
will have no warranty and buying it may be
an issue, but you will have zero issues
obtaining parts.

The other issue is you are capable of doing
your own repairs/bearing replacements, etc.

If you purchase the Caroni Flail Mower parts
are no problem and you have a valid warranty
from the date of purchase of the mounted
implement.

Keep in mind all bearings are metric.
Keep in mind all V-belts are metric.

The V belts used for both mowers are stock items
at NAPA, TSC, Kaman, McmasterCarr, Farm and Fleet
and many others.

You have to purchase a complete No. 6 Eurocardan
Power Take Off shaft for the Caroni Flail Mower.

You will need to buy complete Power Take Off shaft
for the Alamo Flail Mower.

If you buy the Caroni Flail Mower model you wish to have,
Agrisupply will ship a complete shaft for the flailmower
if you want to buy one for the flailmower and it WILL be
the right one. You will have be sure you measure the
Power Take Off to assure it is the proper length for your use.

You will have to measure the Power Take Off Shaft for the
Alamo Flail Mower and the Caroni to be sure it is the proper
length as well so its better to buy a complete Power Take Off
Shaft Assembly for either mower and if the Caroni Mower is
shipped with one all the better.

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Once you go flail you never go back:thumbsup::licking::drool:

 

[beppington]

The Caroni TM1900 did include a PTO shaft.

 

[KYThrill]

KYThrill - I assume the new Caroni TL1500 is from Agri Supply. Mine came with the PTO shaft. You should verify with them.

[qoute]I think both are centered on the PTO and the rear track of my TC25D is 62", so the Alamo seems to be a perfect fit (should completely mow my tracks).

The Caroni TL 1500 has a fixed offset to the right (looking forward), so your left rear tire track will not be covered.[/QUOTE]

The girl I talked to at Agri Supply said the TL1500 didn't come with the PTO (only the TM1900 did) and that they PTO shaft was another $112. I guess I would need to call again to see if I get the same answer.

 

[Rusty]

Do you know which Flailmower rotor you wish to purchase on the 1500 M.M. Caroni flail mower model?

leonz - Agri Supply only stocks the TL1500 with the FSC rotor.

 

[Rusty]

The girl I talked to at Agri Supply said the TL1500 didn't come with the PTO (only the TM1900 did) and that they PTO shaft was another $112. I guess I would need to call again to see if I get the same answer.

TYThrill - I bought the TL1500FSC, Agri Supply Item #53413 on 03/29/11 for $1,549.95 + 206.40 shipping for a total of $1,756.35 to Michigan (Zip 48732). It included the PTO shaft.

 

[leonz]

Congratulations on your purchase,

We welcome you as our newest member
of the Flail Mower Nation.

The Caroni family has been building farm
implements for a long time and like the
other manufacturers of American and
Italian farm machinery build a product
of high quality.


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