I don't know I have ran a JD 3033 and that thing would do anything that I need one to do. A friend of mine has a 35 hp Kubota and that is a nice tractor too. I know I don't want a sub compact but I don't need a 75 hp machine either. The main thing I'm looking for is something with a loader that can pick up 12 to 1500 lbs. At 75 I have become much to lazy to load by hand my little trailer then have to unload it by hand. Yesterday I broke up and hauled 3 loads of concrete and it was on the third load that I decided a tractor, other than my old Power King was in my future.
I will say that in the last 10 Kubota's I've owned, I've never had any warranty claims or issues so for me at least a warranty is moot. Kubota built quality tractors. Not sure about the new ones, just the 'vintage' ones. having said that, the new Kubota round bailer I bought last year has had some teething issues, teething issues to the point where the district rep has had to come to the farm to address them but the tractors have all been totally trouble free. Of course like all new equipment the bailer is 100% electronically controlled. Hard to get away from that today and getting worse. My dealer had a helluva time interfacing the new bailer with my older tractor.
Producer down the road runs 100% JD ag tractors and he cannot even change the fluids or filters on them. The filters have electronic sensors in them that monitor not only the life of the fluid but filter restriction and when it's time to renew, the units alert the dealer via the Green Star, not the owner. With JD you never really own a unit, you 'lease' it instead. Gotta use genuine JD filters and parts too. 250 grand plus for a tractor you cannot service is a crock of poop.
Why the 'right to repair' is a stinky mess actually.
Lifting that much weight would not be an everyday thing. I do need to unload my building off of the tractor trailer when it gets here. I found out yesterday that a couple bundles on the trailer are well over 2000 ibs so that puts me way out of business on that one. Hopefully I can sweet talk my buddy out of his skid steer for the day when the building gets here.Lifting and moving 1500 pounds with a loader is going to put you in the next size up tractor than a typical 30-35 HP compact that weighs under 3000 pounds without ballast or a loader- you are looking at something the size of a 4 series Deere that weighs just under 4000 pounds without ballast or a loader to pick up 1500 pounds with the loader. And while you can move that much weight with a tractor that size, if have to move that weight very far, or have much of any hills to contend with, you are really going to want a full-sized utility tractor, which is going to start at 50-75 HP. They are noticeably larger than a Deere 3033R but ironically can be had for lower prices. If you don't want a tractor that size, can you perhaps split what you are picking up into smaller pieces?
Maybe their large rowcrop machines have the electronic goofiness you discuss but the compacts and utility tractors do not. You change fluids and filters based off of hours or calendar time, and fluids specifically do not need to be Deere-branded fluids, they only need to meet certain specs that third-party fluids often meet. The only difference is that the recommended drain intervals may be shorter if you use some industry-spec fluid rather than Deere's branded fluid. Most filters and parts do have to come from Deere, but that's little different from any other tractor made in the past several decades, it has to be pretty old (and have been very popular) before you can go to the local auto parts store to get filters or have much for aftermarket parts support.
My Dad had a 1972 Power King, and I spent many hours on that machine. They are built well and seen to last forever. It was still running when my Dad passed a few years ago, and I actually used it to clear up some stuff on the property before sale....My poor old PowerKing tractor has had a pretty hard life and more than a few times I have asked it to do things that it was never designed to do. It's sitting out in my shed right now waiting for it's next job to do. That's an amazing little tractor, I've never done anything to it but change the fluids, put two battiers in it and put one set of tires on the front end. The weakest thing on it is the 3 point hitch and that will need a little attention in a few years probably.
Lifting that much weight would not be an everyday thing. I do need to unload my building off of the tractor trailer when it gets here. I found out yesterday that a couple bundles on the trailer are well over 2000 ibs so that puts me way out of business on that one. Hopefully I can sweet talk my buddy out of his skid steer for the day when the building gets here.
The main thing I would be using the loader for would be for moving, mulch, dirt, and gravel around. I'm not a farmer so I won't be plowing and disking 100 ac fields but I do want to be able to run a bush hog and maybe a tiller a couple times a year. Also, I do understand what you guys are saying about more tractor is better......I did watch a few episodes of Tim The Tool man Taylor when he was on tv.
My poor old PowerKing tractor has had a pretty hard life and more than a few times I have asked it to do things that it was never designed to do. It's sitting out in my shed right now waiting for it's next job to do. That's an amazing little tractor, I've never done anything to it but change the fluids, put two battiers in it and put one set of tires on the front end. The weakest thing on it is the 3 point hitch and that will need a little attention in a few years probably.
Yeah they are amazing machines and you can get a lot of work done with one. I hate to admit some of the things I have asked that poor old tractor to do. I think dragging big logs out of the woods an up to my wood pile was just about the worst. The little 3 point hitch was just not cut out for that kind of work but it did drag a lot of logs but it took time to do because T would have to stop and reposition the tractor at times especially in real tight spots.My Dad had a 1972 Power King, and I spent many hours on that machine. They are built well and seen to last forever. It was still running when my Dad passed a few years ago, and I actually used it to clear up some stuff on the property before sale.
Yeah they are amazing machines and you can get a lot of work done with one. I hate to admit some of the things I have asked that poor old tractor to do. I think dragging big logs out of the woods an up to my wood pile was just about the worst. The little 3 point hitch was just not cut out for that kind of work but it did drag a lot of logs but it took time to do because T would have to stop and reposition the tractor at times especially in real tight spots.
Of course the issue is, if it's under warranty or a new unit, that modification will void any warranty so if there is any issue, you are 100% on your own.
You do have "weinie" tractors. You should buy a Big Bud. LOLI always buy 'more' tractor than I need and then grow into it and find out after a fashion that what I thought was big enough is too small. Far as I'm concerned, there is no replacement for displacement or power. I don't do weinie tractors here.