Kubota or John Deer

[jezreel]

So, here’s the thing. . . I ALWAYS read posts in numerous threads that say, “No matter what brand you buy, just make sure the dealer is reputable with a ’good’ and ’accommodating’ service department.” So I gotta ask, as a new tractor buyer as of Dec 2019, how the heck am I able to know those things for a fact. You could deal with the sales guy or gal and have a wonderful experience and go back and talk to the service folks and have a great experience, but until something like this happens (mx842’s experience), you have No Idea about the true colors of the dealership. And Now, mx842 has to deal with being “That Guy” when he calls or walks into the dealership for something. mx842, Good On You for expecting and demanding “Responsible” service from the dealership. C’mon Man! ! ! after spending $30,000 and only having 22 hours on the machine, those Yahoos should have said, “Oh My Gosh Mr. mx842 We are So Sorry; we will send somebody out Right Now to assess it, and bring it back here for service if necessary.” So his Dealership did what they should have, but only because he dug his heals in and pressed them on it.

Since I bought my machine, I have not had any issues. I certainly hope this is a one-off and it is the last time you have to service your machine for a long time.

 

[tacticalturnip]

Just heard that John Deere will be changing their color schemes of their tractors in 2024. The corp offices did some group studies and found that most buyers refer their tractors in a red color. So starting in 2024, "John Deere" green is going to be retired, and there will be an ad campaigne around the new "John Deere," red.

Just cease your criminal mischief.

 

[rScotty]

Just heard that John Deere will be changing their color schemes of their tractors in 2024. The corp offices did some group studies and found that most buyers prefer their tractors in a red color. So starting in 2024, "John Deere" green is going to be retired, and there will be an ad campaigne around the new "John Deere," red.

That'll be the day.....

 

[tacticalturnip]

That'll be the day.....

As it comes to be, because nothing is sacred these days.

 

[rScotty]

Just cease your criminal mischief.

As it comes to be, because nothing is sacred these days.

I beg your pardon! John Deere colors ARE definitely totally sacred. Enough with your blasphemy. Greenie Purists are still a bit queasy over that recent* shade change to the Classic Green.

*re: 1989

 

[mx842]

Ok, Tacticalturnip just for you. It's not a very good pic of the powerking because the sun got me. Nor the Kubota but I never claimed to be a photgrapher.

 

[mx842]

I called my salesman back this morning to see what they had to say about that big ol scratch on my hood. Of-course they were like sargent Schultz on Hogan's Heros, They knew nothing. I didn't want to argue about it because I wasn't for sure if it was there or not. All I'll say is I never noticed it before and don't remembering anything that could have made such a mark. I do know I had just wiped it down that morning to get the pollen off the hood and I didn't notice it then. I didn't really notice it until I got up on the tire and looked straight down. Once I did notice it I got on the ground on the right side and looked at it from there and sure enough I could see it bright as day. I was thinking that they may have popped the hood and it scraped along the brush guard on the front but after I looked at the manual to see how you got under the hood I see it swings the other way. I guess I'll just have to deal with it. Even if they had admitted having an accident I wouldn't have made them replace the hood, accidents do happen but a free service trip might not have been a bad idea.

 

[tacticalturnip]

That's absolutely frustrating; some will say 'what does it matter, it's a tractor' but I've never understood that mentality. It's a brand new item, purchased with your heard earned finances, why the hell shouldn't it be you to put the first scratch in it?

Nice tractor, though, and the same can be said of the Power King. It amazes me just how large they actually are.

 

[jezreel]

It’s like the first scratch on a brand new pair of boots. That first scuff always hurts the worst.

 

[mx842]

That's absolutely frustrating; some will say 'what does it matter, it's a tractor' but I've never understood that mentality. It's a brand new item, purchased with your heard earned finances, why the hell shouldn't it be you to put the first scratch in it?

Nice tractor, though, and the same can be said of the Power King. It amazes me just how large they actually are.

Yeah that's what I told the salesman. On a tractor or any piece of equipment for that matter it's bound to get a bing bang on it sooner or later. Usually every scratch has a story to go along with it though. Sadly, there is no story to tell on this one, accept maybe it could be a mystery novel of the sort. I've been scratching all the hair off my head trying to fine something around here that could have made such a mark. Also, to make a mark like that someone would have had to know about it. The marks are to evenly spaced for something like gravel spilling out of the bucket because you didn't level the bucket while raising it. That's more or less the conclusion the guy at the shop came up with.
Yes those old tractors were built to last and for their size they could get a lot of work done. Maybe If I think about it i'll take one of them side by side today just for grins.

 

[mx842]

It’s like the first scratch on a brand new pair of boots. That first scuff always hurts the worst.

An yeah they come pretty fast after the first one.

 

[mx842]

The more I think about this the more I don't like it. I know the gubment has the final say in what and how manfacturers can build stuff. But this thing of having to run my tractor WFO all the time just to keep it out of the shop has me a little, well just say not happy. For the past couple days I have been trying to do that but now I'm seeing the hour meter adding up hours and the fuel gauge dropping like crazy. I mean the hour meter seemed a little fast before but now it really flies. I hate to keep ragging on about this but hopefully it might help someone else who might be thinking about going out and buying a shiny new tractor.
Some might say at the ripe old age of 75 what does it matter? Well it's not just me im thinking about. I've owned many pieces of equipment in my life, tractors, track and wheel loaders, Dozers, backhoes, excavators and more and they all had one thing in common and that was to get work done. Now don't take this wrong, my life is a little easier with this new machine around but it worries me that the way this is going I'll have a 1000 hours on this thing before this year is out. Every thing I have ever run measures hours by the amount of work the machine is doing not by how much carbon that extra muffler is burning up.
I asked them about it and their answer was, it's just the way these new tractors are. That's something else I wish someone had told me about before I went out and spent $30,000. On top of all this I found out this morning that Bud lite cans will soon be flying the rainbow banner on their cans. Something else to worry about, now I got to find a new beer. The world is just changing too fast for me now.
End of rant.....

 

[Goose1776]

Bud light is nasty anyway. Hahaha
And yes the emissions equipment on new tractors, adds complexity, decreases fuel efficiency, and changes the way you have to operate a tractor
But at least a teenager somewhere in Europe is happy

 

[deserteagle71]

But at least a teenager somewhere in Europe is happy

Doubt it. Have you ever seen a pic of her face with a smile on it?

 

[RidgeTopWVA]

They've got their strengths; when a branch broke off a tree and bounced off of my hood I really appreciated it.

A lot better than the old plastic, I'll give them that.

The newer plastic is impact resistant the plastic is made with some rubber mixed in it and gives it some flex and strength which is great , my JD 4400 has the cheap plastic hood where as the fenders are plyable.

 

[Williy]

I usually run 1800 t;o 2200 rpm and use a gallon of diesel per
hour on my 34 hp tractor is this in the ball park?

willy

 

[mo1]

I usually run 1800 t;o 2200 rpm and use a gallon of diesel per
hour on my 34 hp tractor is this in the ball park?

willy

Maybe, it's hard to tell as nobody such as Nebraska has done any testing on a remotely similar tractor to yours. If you made me guess, that sounds about right if you are loading up the engine pretty well running a rotary cutter or tiller, but high if you are puttering around doing loader work. A gallon an hour doing loader work is about what a full-sized utility tractor in the 75-100 HP range uses.

 

[sem389]

I'm thinking about buying a new tractor in the 25 to 30 thousand dollar price range. Would like something in the 30 to 35hp range. Witch one is the best bang for the buck?

In my opinion, having shopped for two tractors in the last 15 years, Kubota is the best bang for your buck. John Deere tractors are very good but you end up paying more for the name. Seems like Kubota, Kioti and other Korean tractors give great deals on equipment. Go orange!

 

[jyoutz]

The more I think about this the more I don't like it. I know the gubment has the final say in what and how manfacturers can build stuff. But this thing of having to run my tractor WFO all the time just to keep it out of the shop has me a little, well just say not happy. For the past couple days I have been trying to do that but now I'm seeing the hour meter adding up hours and the fuel gauge dropping like crazy. I mean the hour meter seemed a little fast before but now it really flies. I hate to keep ragging on about this but hopefully it might help someone else who might be thinking about going out and buying a shiny new tractor.
Some might say at the ripe old age of 75 what does it matter? Well it's not just me im thinking about. I've owned many pieces of equipment in my life, tractors, track and wheel loaders, Dozers, backhoes, excavators and more and they all had one thing in common and that was to get work done. Now don't take this wrong, my life is a little easier with this new machine around but it worries me that the way this is going I'll have a 1000 hours on this thing before this year is out. Every thing I have ever run measures hours by the amount of work the machine is doing not by how much carbon that extra muffler is burning up.
I asked them about it and their answer was, it's just the way these new tractors are. That's something else I wish someone had told me about before I went out and spent $30,000. On top of all this I found out this morning that Bud lite cans will soon be flying the rainbow banner on their cans. Something else to worry about, now I got to find a new beer. The world is just changing too fast for me now.
End of rant.....

With all of the great locally produced beers available today, why anyone still drinks flavorless Bud is a mystery to me? Regardless of other factors.

 

[Sawyer Rob]

With all of the great locally produced beers available today, why anyone still drinks flavorless Bud is a mystery to me? Regardless of other factors.

With as bad as all beer taste, it's a mystery to me why anyone would even drink beer.

SR