How much does that log weigh?

[Oldpath05]

Mess in the house is no big deal. Its in an unfinished basement. Crumbly stuff sweeps right up. Not really have a insect issue as a result. I do keep some terro ant bait traps down their though.

I'm a basement burner to, but my floor is cement, out of 7 cord when the wood is gone, there's a 5' tractor bucket full of debris to take out, but there would probably be a lot less debris if debris was spelt the way the it sounds, dabree.

 

[LD1]

I probably have that much too. But I burn alot of it. The bigger pieces are used when starting a fire. The other stuff....a handful here and there into the stove when fixing the fire, and by the end of heating season its all but gone

 

[/pine]

I'm currently working on splitting a couple of big white oaks that were cut last Feb. and laid there until about July when I started cutting rounds...(one of the trees was 30" +)...This wood just started losing the bark...it sure makes for a cleaner mess without the bark falling off after it is split and stacked for storage...

 

[Oldpath05]

When I'm splitting firewood like your white oak, I'm always thinking that it would be nice if I had wood tumbler to bang the the wood around before I load it in my wagon, then when it's brought in to my cellar, in theory, the wood would be cleaner and cleaner wood means less cleaning in the basement, in theory.

 

[budepps3760]

Another good resource is at this link.

Log Weight Calculator at WOODWEB

 

[FTG-05]

Do you know this as fact? Sounds like a lot of hype to me as I've not read any good reason for the new restrictions on wood burners. People spewing forth their opinions as facts cause a lot of unnecessary drama in this world. If you have proof of this being the reason for the laws I will apologize otherwise please stop with the rhetoric already.

Yes, I do. I started burning wood in my wood stove in the mid-80's in WA state just before they started regulating wood burning. Why? Because of all the people that thought that cutting and burning wood in the same year was a good idea. Of course, having read "Wood Heat" and other good books, I knew better. If you can season wood in West WA, you can season wood anywhere!

Here's a couple links for your edification: Wood Stoves, Fireplaces, Pellet Stoves, and Masonry Heaters https://chimneysweeponline.com/fswood.htm

 

[gladehound]

I try to dry my wood for at least 6-8 months, run my Tier 3 wood stove on the hot side and have never cleaned my chimney in 10 years... well, except when I set it on fire, that cleans it out real good!

I haul decent size pieces of wood now and then as well... 9 foot x 40" piece of ash.

 

[4570Man]

I try to dry my wood for at least 6-8 months, run my Tier 3 wood stove on the hot side and have never cleaned my chimney in 10 years... well, except when I set it on fire, that cleans it out real good! I haul decent size pieces of wood now and then as well... 9 foot x 40" piece of ash.

Are you sure about that? Log weight calculator says that log weighs 4800 pounds which is nearly double your loader rated capacity. Something doesn't add up.

 

[/pine]

Are you sure about that? Log weight calculator says that log weighs 4800 pounds which is nearly double your loader rated capacity. Something doesn't add up.

methinks with forks...getting around the actual "lift" capacity can be overcome by using the forks and the dump/curl cylinders...the front tires are a little taxed...and I would NOT want to take that log down any slippery grades...

in the same respect I can use my hydraulic top link and lift loads that the 3ph can't at the end of a boom pole...

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Re-looking...it's not forks but it does not look like a regular bucket either??...

 

[Sawyer Rob]

methinks with forks...getting around the actual "lift" capacity can be overcome by using the forks and the dump/curl cylinders...

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Re-looking...it's not forks but it does not look like a regular bucket either??...

WELL, "methinks" it would have to be a miracle for that to be true, to give it THAT much extra lift!

SR

 

[/pine]

WELL, "methinks" it would have to be a miracle for that to be true, to give it THAT much extra lift!

SR

Not really "lifting" per se...just curling the cylinders once the forks/whatever is under the load...it takes a technique...

After another closer look..it appears to be a root bucket and this would make it fairly easy to method under the log and curl it up without moving the boom...??

 

[Sawyer Rob]

Try it, and let me know how it works out for you!

SR

 

[4570Man]

Not really "lifting" per se...just curling the cylinders once the forks/whatever is under the load...it takes a technique... After another closer look..it appears to be a root bucket and this would make it fairly easy to method under the log and curl it up without moving the boom...??

Almost any tractor can lift a load greater than the rated capacity a few inches off the ground. His tractor is rated to lift 2600 pounds at the pins to full height. Log weight calculator says 4800 pounds give or take since we don't know the exact species of ash. Don't forget to add the weight of the rock bucket. In some cases the curl can lift more than the boom, but not that much. "Methinks" the other side of the log is rotten.

 

[/pine]

Try it, and let me know how it works out for you!

SR

I can't quantify the load (in question) pictured or anything else about it...but If I was not relating from experience I would not have ventured a response to the doubt of the claim/picture...maybe he photo-shopped the picture...or I don't know...does Balsa grow that big?

 

[4570Man]

I can't quantify the load (in question) pictured or anything else about it...but If I was not relating from experience I would not have ventured a a response to the doubt of the claim/picture...maybe he photo-shopped the picture...or I don't know...does Balsa grow that big?

Well, here is my experience with big wood. That was willow which is much lighter than ash. I'd like to see a compact tractor come pick it up. If my log was ash it would weigh almost 6,000 pounds according to wood web. Since it's not, log calculator says it weighs about 3,700 pounds.

 

[/pine]

...In some cases the curl can lift more than the boom...

The difference in lifting weight with the boom that may surpass the relief pressure...and with an applicable implement and the right technique is the curl function becomes just the force behind a "lever"...once enough "lever" action is applied to rotate the load beyond the COG it settles into the inversion...and is already off the ground...

 

[jlgurr]

Wow, that's one big ash log!

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[jlgurr]

Yes, I do. I started burning wood in my wood stove in the mid-80's in WA state just before they started regulating wood burning. Why? Because of all the people that thought that cutting and burning wood in the same year was a good idea. Of course, having read "Wood Heat" and other good books, I knew better. If you can season wood in West WA, you can season wood anywhere! Here's a couple links for your edification: Wood Stoves, Fireplaces, Pellet Stoves, and Masonry Heaters https://chimneysweeponline.com/fswood.htm

Thanks, these links indicate your state has made some regulations on burning wood. However, that does not give credence to your blanket statement on same regulations country wide.

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[LD1]

He shows a picture of his tractor making the lift, yet everyone is still in disbelief??

the thing about log weights and log weight calculators.....they are all estimates. Species, moisture content, irregular shapes, etc all make it impossible to calculate exact without actually scaling it.

Ash can be 50 PCF wet/green........or 40pcf dry.

A 40" diameter round log @ 9' with no taper contains 78.5 CF of wood. @ 50 PCF thats 3900#, at 40 PCF that is 3,140#.

Never trusted them log calculators because they just dont seem to ever be right. How are they coming up with 4800#

Lets simply break it down....pi x r squared x length right......

3.14 x 20 x 20 = 1256 (divide this by 144 to get sq ft)
1256/144= 8.72 sq ft x 9' length = 78.5 cubic feet of wood in that log.

For it to weigh 4800# it would have to be 61.14 PCF. That is almost the density of water. And no chart I have found lists any species of ash at 61+. Perhaps if it was something dredged out of the bottom of the river and saturated?????

 

[Sawyer Rob]

He shows a picture of his tractor making the lift, yet everyone is still in disbelief??

The ONLY thing I'm doubting is, "ANY" tractor/loader rated to pick up less than 3,000 pounds, picking up and walking away with 3500 plus pounds!

It's just NOT going to happen!

SR