Glow Plug Use

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HAR

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Kubota B7300HST (1999)
Maybe this is an old topic, but I have searched, and while there is some glow plug discussion, I found nothing either serious or in depth.

When using glow plugs to preheat for cold starts, does anyone have any better information or knowledge about what is the proper/correct amount of time to preheat before trying to start a diesel engine?

The reason I ask is this. After having had my B7300 for over 23 years, I had my first cold start issue this past week. In the past, it seems, I really have not had the need to start my engine in really cold weather. However recently, we had a couple small snow storms, nothing enough to warrant clearing the yard and drive, but freezing rain was in the forecast, and following that a much colder freeze. I decided to clear up what was down and around before the rain and freezing rain made a mess, and the forecast deeper freeze turning everything into a rutted skating rink.

As it was about 15F at that time, I put everything in neutral, depressed the clutch, moved the key to preheat, and held it there for 10 seconds, basically what the manual said, and has worked in the past, but I cannot attest to what the temps were when I did those cold starts. However, this time, the engine did not fire on the first try. So, I waited about 1 minute, and repeated the process, and once again, it did not start. So, I repeated it for a third time, and the engine started. I did my clean up and put the tractor away, but I got to thinking about this, as winter here is basically just getting started. I reread my user manual, and confirmed what I had done was what was prescribed.

The next day it was much colder, 7F, and I decided to do a test. I went out and began the cold start procedure, but this time I held the key in the preheat position for 20 seconds, and it started right up. I am now wondering if the user manual is being a bit cautious with the preheat time? Or if maybe there is a more widely used or accepted thought/theory/procedure ?

BTW, Happy New Year 2026 to all!

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My tractor, which is not a kubota, turns the glo light off, when it is done. It usually takes around 30 seconds or so at the temps you are talking about, shorter if I've had it plugged in. Kubota, Yanmar and Bobcat equipment I have used do the same thing, you hold the key in position until the light goes off. Sometimes it might take 2-3 reps if it is cold and you don't have a block heater.
 
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My experience with older Kubota engines is that they really really like glow plugs. The B7000 with the Z650 engine I had would need a very solid 30 seconds to start on about 5ºC temps.

The D640 in my backhoe does better with less glow plug time but still likes it very much.

With this being said, it might be a good time to see if your glow plugs are in good condition. It's possible that at least one is bad, making it harder to start. Just plug the bus bar out and measure the resistance on each one. If it gives an open circuit or very high resistance, means it's bad.
 
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Have a New Holland that when key is turned the glow plugs only stay on for 4-5 seconds per cycle. Not unusual for me to cycle them 2-3 times when temps single digits to low teens.
 
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I understand many newer diesel applications have auto preheat setups. I know the 2017 diesel truck that I use at my nephews maple sugar operation seems to have such a setup. Insert key, turn, and wait for all lights to extinguish before it will start. But it will fire and run right away, with no hesitation.

So, this brings up another question, which I think I knew about, but really have not followed. Engine warm up...some of these times seem pretty excessive, but what do I know. I do know that diesel engines are pretty cold blooded. What do others do?

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My Kubota B21 is 24 yrs old and always has started cold - a bit noisy if below 15* and when it's this cold I get the walk behind snowblower out and do some of the pathways while the tractor warms up, (10 minutes or so). For warm up, I start it for the first minute at idle, then increase to 11-1200 RPM for 5 minutes minimum to 10 as mentioned above.

I installed flexible pan heaters on it this year 175 W on the engine oil, and 250 W on the Hyd oil pan bottom on a wifi controlled plug I turn on 30 minutes before going to the barn, These help things warm up faster. You can find these orange flexible pan heaters with adhesive on Amazon or Walmart for $10-20 each,
 

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