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Dont tell me you that you dont get the message! 400 replies on the climate change thread!!!! Even if most of the posts are making a fool of Gore, he put the issue on the agenda. Admit it, everybody talks of global warming. Sooner or later most of you will study the matter more carefully, and get the message. One of the reasons many will change to more enviremental friendly solutions is that its good for your own economy.
Anyway, studying the forces that controls the climate and weather on this planet is interesting.
 
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No, the issue has been on the agenda well before Al Gore Global Warming Expert made a movie and made money on the subject. Al Gore has done nothing but made money on the subject and won accolades from the choir. Course if Al was all that concerned with the environment he would shut down the mine his family has earned money off of for decades, he would move to house that would not hold a village, and he would travel like the rest of us.

The study of climate and weather is very interesting. I just wish it was based on science and not politics. Maybe one day we will be able to predict the weather more than a few days in the future.

Later,
Dan
 
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Yeah, he put it on the radar...but I don't have to like the basta*d! Ran for Pres...didn't even win his home state of Tennessee! That says a lot about a guy who can't even gain the support of his home team!

I'm sick of hearing of global warming. It's just a correction, everything in nature ebbs and flows...blah

I'm sick of hearing about organic foods too! Another marketing ploy to sway consumers into buying a "new" product and pay more for it...blah

I'm sick of biofuels. Yeah sure, it's a "neat" concept...burning used motor oil, used Mcdonald's grease etc...but as soon as there's more of a market for it, we'll be paying the same price for it as the "fossil fuel" we now use...blah

I need to chew some willow bark, I am getting a headache.

-Podunk
 
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1948berg said:
Dont tell me you that you dont get the message! 400 replies on the climate change thread!!!! Even if most of the posts are making a fool of Gore, he put the issue on the agenda. Admit it, everybody talks of global warming. Sooner or later most of you will study the matter more carefully, and get the message. One of the reasons many will change to more enviremental friendly solutions is that its good for your own economy.
Anyway, studying the forces that controls the climate and weather on this planet is interesting.


In seventies the same scientists were predicting global cooling and new ice age to kill most of the life on Earth - this is just another attempt of the leftiest to take control of people.
It can be called many different names but I call it bs. Nobody ever said the environment is supposed to stay the same for ever and ever - but thats what all the greenies freak out from, that the environment is changing. Well, take a pill Mr.Green Pants, it was always changing. Nothing is stable in this world and all tham tree huggers are just terrorists and leftiest to some excent trying to take control.
 
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Thomas Sowell wrote a book called "The Vision of the Anointed" which describes perfectly what is taking place right now with this thing that has seemingly taken on a life of its own that we know as "Global Warming."

First, the politicians (or whomever stands to gain from it) begin clammoring for action against a "crisis" of some sort without bothering to show how this situation is either uniquely bad or threatening to get worse.

Second, when enough people have bought into the notion that a crisis exists, then solutions are proposed in which a beneficial result is promised. Usually the people sold on the crisis have bought into the idea not because it was a well thought, reasoned argument but rather because of the prominence of the presenter. Al Gore is a perfect example of this. He isn't a scientist; nor does he himself lead by example by minimizing his own contribution to this "crisis."

Third, the proposals are instituted and negative results occur.

Fourth, any one who dares criticize the negative results are deemed to be unable to understand the complexities of the problem, or an explanation is offered something along the lines of "Think how bad things would have become had we not acted when we did!"

There is no better example than the "War on Poverty" which was a total, abysmal failure yet it continues to this day despite the fact that poverty was actually decreasing before the War on Poverty was instituted and has done nothing but increase since.

If we can't win the war on poverty, what chance do we have against Mother Nature?
 
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Heard on rush limbagh today about those carbon credits he buys to offset his big carbon footprint,,,its from a company he owns,,he's paying money to his self,,,carbon credits?? he invented it,,,its a scham to make money for himself,,thats a fraud,,,,,anybody ever here of"carbon credits" before gore said it? what a joke,,,,thingy
 
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1948berg said:
Dont tell me you that you dont get the message! 400 replies on the climate change thread!!!! Even if most of the posts are making a fool of Gore, he put the issue on the agenda. Admit it, everybody talks of global warming. Sooner or later most of you will study the matter more carefully, and get the message. One of the reasons many will change to more enviremental friendly solutions is that its good for your own economy.
Anyway, studying the forces that controls the climate and weather on this planet is interesting.


Well, I didn't respond to the thread, and didn't know it existed until I saw this one. That being said, what I find interesting isn't whether Al Gore (or anyone) has put "Global Warming" on the platform of the national agenda, the most fascinating thing about it is that anyone who disagrees w/ the proponents of Global Warming are demonized by the followers of Al Gore and others. Many very credible experts do disagree with Al Gore and the group subscribing to that point of view...but there is no debate. Why?

Even more interesting is the fact that Canadians are now complaining that the "carbon footprint" emitted by the United States has actually caused the deaths of Eskimos and others living in arctic regions. I'll let folks form their own opinions, but I'm a little skeptical of people who do not allow debate (right or left), and have a difficult time comprehending how demogoguery can win any debate...it is clearly a red herring.
 
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1948berg said:
Sooner or later most of you will study the matter more carefully, and get the message.
Ah yes, the 'People who disagree with the man causes global warming theory are simply ignorant' argument.

I envision the GW Believers standing at the front of the classroom. The GW Unbelievers sitting at the little desks being taught by the wise ones. Remember, these GW Unbelievers are adults, since the young ones don't need to be taught. They can be GW Converts just by showing them movies with video of icebergs crashing into the sea and flooding their favorite beach, accompanied by dramatic, dirge-like music or by showing lovable and cute polar bears stranded on a tiny and melting piece of ice. But most adults, typically tobaccy chewin', NASCAR watchin', citizens of flyover country need real indoctrination, er, teaching.

Since all the unbelievers are a little slow, the wise ones speak slowly so the unbelievers, using those big, thick pencils can take notes on their wide ruled, yellow tablets. The GW Believers patiently pace through the classroom, winding their way between the little desks, stepping over Dale Jr lunch boxes, looking down at what the students have written. If it's not correct, they patronizingly pat us on the head and say, "Keep trying, Cletus.", and give us a bigger eraser and another tablet.

Nevermind the scientists who don't believe. You'd imagine they've studied the matter carefully. They've just studied the wrong facts. They must simply spend more time sitting in the little desks. They will, no doubt, have their fingers rapped many times by the GW Ruler at this, the GW Madras. Sadly, there may be some people, no matter how long they sit in the little desks will just never believe. So, unfortunately, legislation must be passed to deal with them. All must come to believe.
 
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MikePA said:
...Nevermind the scientists who don't believe. You'd imagine they've studied the matter carefully. They've just studied the wrong facts. They simply must spend more time sitting in the little desks.


I believe they've been labeled "dissidents"

I read a Sci-Fi tale once about pollution, and how we were running out of oil. That story was written around 1940.

Back in the '60s we were told that the world was coming out of a miniature ice age; now that has evolved into global warming. I do believe the planet is getting warmer. I also have no doubt our activities have an impact on the planet; we are the dominant species, after all. (The air quality here in Maine has deteriorated in the last 20 years, mostly because we are downwind from the rest of you) What I'm unsure about is how much climate change we are causing, and how much is natural.
 
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cp1969 said:
Thomas Sowell wrote a book called "The Vision of the Anointed" which describes perfectly what is taking place right now with this thing that has seemingly taken on a life of its own that we know as "Global Warming."

First, the politicians (or whomever stands to gain from it) begin clammoring for action against a "crisis" of some sort without bothering to show how this situation is either uniquely bad or threatening to get worse.

Second, when enough people have bought into the notion that a crisis exists, then solutions are proposed in which a beneficial result is promised. Usually the people sold on the crisis have bought into the idea not because it was a well thought, reasoned argument but rather because of the prominence of the presenter. Al Gore is a perfect example of this. He isn't a scientist; nor does he himself lead by example by minimizing his own contribution to this "crisis."

Third, the proposals are instituted and negative results occur.

Fourth, any one who dares criticize the negative results are deemed to be unable to understand the complexities of the problem, or an explanation is offered something along the lines of "Think how bad things would have become had we not acted when we did!"

There is no better example than the "War on Poverty" which was a total, abysmal failure yet it continues to this day despite the fact that poverty was actually decreasing before the War on Poverty was instituted and has done nothing but increase since.

If we can't win the war on poverty, what chance do we have against Mother Nature?

Very well said.

Eddie
 
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