Farm Security

[kthompson]

Is your property such you could lease it to a hunting club who would patrol it for you? Or to a gun club for shooting who also would patrol it? No idea there but here for carry permit there is required shooting in the training. Maybe who ever taught your wife could use part of the land on a frequent basis with their classes. They might be a good source to ask for help.

I would be very careful about making it well know your wife is scared and you are out of town. People of this level might just as soon shot her as the deer. If the videos could be connected to monitors in house it might give your wife security. You may could also find a company who monitors them. My guess is if you install sirens they would just shoot them after a time or two.

Sorry this is happening to anyone but especially to a faithful solider. God protect you and your wife.

Do they own the property they are on? If not the owner may be willing to evict. It is possible they are in drugs or such and the sheriff and not bothering while trying to build case. Knew of a case like that in our county a few years back.

Do resist the temptation and suggestion of damaging their property, guess who would end up in jail!

 

[kthompson]

You should post the sherriff's contact info here. I am sure a few of our group would be willing to call him to ask why he won't take care of a serving veteran.

Maybe someone close to call a congressman in your behalf.

It T's me off to hear what they are doing. Scum is correct, who knows maybe we can set up a TBN blanket party.

I would be willing to call. Hey, have an idea off of this...contact Bill O'Reily on Fox news. He often does segments on such as this sheriff.

 

[Cat_Driver]

I used infrared area alarms. They can shoot up to 300'

You put one on each corner of anything between 100' and 300' and if they cross that invisible line alarms, lights, etc all go off.

Amazing with money so tight you now have to spend thousands to protect what you have.

I better stop typing right now or I'll be thrown off this site.

 

[SPIKER]

this is my thoughts on this.
1. contact the base liazion officer, get him to call the worthless cop, this will get others involved. the sheriff should by law have to investigate the property damage vandalized that mule was/is worth over 500 bucks that makes it a felony not withstanding the attempted arson in ohio.
2. call insurance tell them what has happened get them involved as well that way you can start building a case for destruction of private property they will force the cop to get off his lazy f@t @rse and get out to do his job.
like others contact local VFW and maybe even your home base commander for similar assistance from the base legal department. You are active duty now and you are entitled to their help dealing with even the civilian problems when you are away and at war.
3. as soon as you are back, get busy moving you fence back to the property line maybe add some weedburner charger to the top as well.. if you leave them keep using it then you can lose it.
4. start target practicing out by the woods every chance you and at different times. post that military vet shooting range even invite some of the local VFW people over
5, sure why not raise a few hogs, (just check into the local ordnances for live stock some counties say not with in XXX feet of property line...

Mark

 

[zzvyb6]

I really don't think any of the alarm, fence, door, or camera stuff is gonna do any good except make you feel good for a few weeks.

The best defense is a better offense. I suggest you perform a one at a time disappearing act.

 

[rox]

Many thanks for your service to our county, really. Is your wife able to get the sheriff involved. I guess I am kind of confused why you are doing this long distance from Iraq. Instead of calling an e-mailing the sheriff did you wife go down to thier office to file a complaint? The other thing she can do is take out a restraining order on the neighbors, if a sheriff won't listen to her I bet a judge will. Once a restraining order is issued if the neighbors violate it then it is back to see the judge. I think that is the approach I would take. As a woman I would go down to the sheriffs office file my complaint and then I would find out how to get a restraining order against the neighbors. Cameras will validate their compliance with the restraining order. It is much different to go in person than to try and accomplish the same thing over the phone. If she goes down to see the sheriff in person I can hardly believe they will not make a report on it.

The other thing you can do is find out who his opponent was in the last election who lost to the current sheriff and ask him for help.

 

[Redbug]

Hi Shaun,

I know it burns you up being over there with the insurgents running amok at your place. Your wife is top priority on the security issue. Your plan looks pretty good to me. I know it's a lot of money...but I feel your wife is in a pretty bad state of mind after all those happenings. It will help. Hang in there...you will be home soon and can do something more about the situation. Then you can be confrontational with the sheriff and whoever else. Are there any friends nearby that you can ask to make their presence known at odd hours? That would make the best impression, especially along with a little gunfire to make noise. How much longer till you rotate home for good?

Spiker, Rox and the others make good sense. Didn't think of the VFW. I am sure they will help out until then.

Let us know what happens.

 

[JohnDeere4300]

I have been caught sleeping I guess. My third barn faces away from the house. An unknown subject went in and slashed all the tires on my Kawasaki Mule, dumped out all my petrol, oil, and lubricants, tried to start a fire which thankfully must have put itself out, and likely harassed (by throwing rocks at him) my dog who was inside the barn in his kennel. My spouse was at a concealed weapons permit class at the time of the vandalism.

FIRST OF ALL WELCOME TO TBN!

AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE!

Since you will be called to service and you will be leaving, I really believe the military should be able to help you. My sisters husband is in the Army and they live in California, the military is moving them to
Hawaii. (If they help someone move, WHY can't they help you.)

This is a serious problem here. i would put up game cameras, wired security cameras, solar sensor lights.

I WOULD ALSO PUT UP A ELECTRIC FENCE. you can get them solar also.
I have wired security cameras,(record when I'm gone) sensor lights, fence all around, electric fence, double gates, pole lights, driveway alarms on gates, and 63 guns with years of ammunition.

GET YOUR PROPERTY FENCED IN AND GET YOU A BIG BULL.

*Call the FBI.
*Call the homeland security department.

*Send email to LOU DOBBS AT CNN.(he is the only one on the news that cares about the soldiers, tell him the sheriffs name and your story.)

*SEND EMAIL TO TED NUGENT.

*call the attorney generals office in your state.This really will help.



pray everyday!__THIS WILL BE THE BEST.

Be careful and keep us posted.

 

[dex3361]

Shaun I want to thank you for your service to our country. I know it has to be stressful enough without this going on at home. I will pray for you and your wife for your safe return and her saftey as well. I would legaly post the property. I agree with putting the fence where it belongs and installing weed burner electric fence possibly a couple strands. I know that you would not want anything bad to happen to anyone but you may not want them to think so. A mean dog barks and growls so that he doesnt have to bite, but pressed he will bite. Sometimes it pays to growl and bark a little and make them think you will bite. The cameras are a great idea and make sure that they are of the quality that you can Identify someone. There is a pepper spray product that is tripped automatically when someone enters a building and it floods the entire building with a pepper spray fog and they will not stay there. Then it indexes around to the next can in case the intruders return. I say this because it may be a deterant to someone going futher with their actions.It might be Its called a "Repulsar IV" https://www.stopthecrime.com/prod-repulsar4.htm

I hope all goes well and I will remember you and your wife in my prayers.
Randall

 

[ZetorShaun]

Awesome, thanks for some ideas.

The State Patrol has been by twice and my wife is pleased with what actions they are taking.

The insurance company has assigned an investigator to follow behind the law enforcement but the adjuster has not been by yet.

Really liked the idea about Homeland Security as this is an attack against "domestic food production" or "terrorism against farmers" by environmentalists or something like that. I am a officer and the Army is not as involved in these types of things as you would think. We have had to really kick butt to protect our guys and their families at unit level. My wife's family is all local but they do not understand why she would want a farm and live so far off the road. She said she is getting a second German Shepherd although our current one almost ripped through his chain link from the looks of things, either scared of the fire or because he wanted to kill the subject.

I have put into action the other things, the new locks, securing one barn, infrared cameras, having damage repaired.

My wife is capable but I feel it is my duty to protect her and make her feel safe.

I like the suggestions. My farm is a big rectangle, I am at the southwest corner, the problem people are at the southeast corner, the whole farm is fenced with woven wire and posted with signs every 50 meters. I would like to run electric wire on top of the woven wire next.

Yes, Redbug, it is frustrating to have insurgents attacking my rear home base, insurgents are very annoying suckers, it takes a lot of effort and dedication to defeat them, you have to be able to endure. Spiker has a good plan, as do everyone, that was the feedback I was looking for.

I have a VFW post close by, I am a Amvets member but I was going to join the VFW too. When I get home I have so much work to do! The older vets seemed to join those organizations to get out of the house!

As for the Sheriff, I am done with that. They are not malicious just incompetent and stupid. In this day and age they have deputies wandering around without body armor and revolvers (I know, I know, a reliable but low capacity weapon).

Thanks a million, heading out on mission!

 

[Thumper & Buttercup]

First, My wife and I want to thank you for your service, we are both disabled Vets.

E-mail all the data you put here to the Attorney General's office of your state, all law enforcement have to answer to them!! Back up the copies with copies to your congressmen and Governor's office, you will be surprised how good this will do.

Get in contact with the Patriot Guard in your state, I'm sure you can get some help in a hurry there also until the elected officials get going.

 

[Thumper & Buttercup]

ZetorShaun,

I posted your link on two groups that I frequent, both are top notch guys, hopefully someone close can help also.

 

[Deaf]

Zetorshaun,

We have land in Harrison county and have vandal issues that we can never seem to solve. The below is from today痴 News-Herald in regards to cut backs within the sheriffs department. I met a few of them while reporting our damages and they all say the same thing 渡ot much we can do without hard evidence . So pictures and videos is the way to go.

Deaf

Funding fallout?
2/25/09
By AMY GAREIS
News-Herald Staff Writer
LESS MANPOWER at the Harrison County Sheriffç—´ Office could put the community and other officers at risk.
That was the consensus of officials who spoke to the media following Wednesdayç—´ county commission meeting. Taking center stage was the discussion of increasing the sheriffç—´ coffers, which saw a $200,000 drop this year (see related story). Although further talks were scheduled this Monday between commissioners and Sheriff Joe Myers, the possibility loomed that a half-dozen staff members could be off the job March 8.
Currently there are 10 deputies, four dispatchers and a corrections officer with up to 20 years of experience. According to the Fraternal Order of Police/Ohio Labor Council, the sheriff determines which rank and class to reduce and layoffs would occur in reverse order of seniority.
Some law enforcement representatives said the layoffs would hinder the fight against crime and also pose a safety hazard.
çš„tç—´ a serious threat, not only to members, but to the public, said Wes Elson, staff representative for the FOP. å…¸hey will be patrolling more with one officer on shift. If you cut the sheriffç—´ office, the bad guys are going to know that and it will affect crime.
He urged commissioners to take another look at the numbers before potentially costing the county some much-needed safety personnel. Elson said the office was well understaffed and further cuts could put the public in peril.
的f Sheriff Myers has layoffs, it will make a bad situation worse, he continued. 撤ublic safety is such a big component of infrastructure. The county needs to attract business and people. With cuts [in law enforcement], how does that look to someone who wants to come to Harrison County to start a business? A cut is going to be detrimental. I appreciate the fact we致e been able to work with the sheriff. He痴 tried everything to avert this. I hope this meeting with the commissioners is productive and they can somehow fund him so he can look into other services.
Jewett Police Chief Ron Carter told the News-Herald that he manned his villageç—´ protection alone and backup support was essential.
å…¸he nearest backup would be the state patrol or if Cadiz was available, said Carter. å…¸his is a serious situation for officer safety.
Meanwhile, Myers has spoken with fire and EMS officials who have offered to assist during emergencies, while future calls into the HCSO would be prioritized by severity.
甜Emergency crews] are willing to help, he said. å…¸hey will be willing to do what needs to be done. At this point in time, weæ±*e going to try to take care of all calls in the office. We can ask people to come in and make a statement on non-emergency complaints or [handle it] over the phone.
Myers he has looked at other funding avenues to ease the burden but said allocations were not always guaranteed. Options include seeking stimulus money geared toward law enforcement or reviewing the operation of the county jail, which for now has handled only misdemeanor offenders. The jail was reverted to a holding facility only for offenders facing court dates upon the cessation of the Prisoner To Work Program. Past Sheriff Mark Miller said program revenue helped defray felony prisoner keep at the Jefferson County Jail, but commissioners could no longer support the endeavor. Myers hopes to get the jail back in operation and planned to meet with a rep from the state Bureau of Adult Detention on March 12.
The sheriff also noted regret over forming a levy prior to implementing the Enhanced 9-1-1 system. That money could have been used to help staff dispatchers, but a current police levy is due to expire this fall. Myers is eyeing a possible replacement measure but is still unsure whether it will include an increase. As for the extra $85,000 commissioners said they could provide but didn稚, he called it a case of 兎asy come, easy go.
的 received a call on Feb. 9 saying they壇 found $85,000 and were putting it into my jail line item. Around the 16th, one commissioner said we could put it into salaries. On the 23rd they advised they had to take it back off of me, he said, adding that the money might have made a difference. Myers said last year痴 budget may not have figured in the loss of two positions, but the jail痴 closure also affected one part-time and two full-time posts. Myers said he has not informed his staff of actual reductions but knows some of them are already looking for other work.
的t痴 bad enough I don稚 sleep at night, he said. 的 don稚 need to have them not sleeping at night. I知 hopeful through some other avenues and I hope our meeting [Monday] is eventful.
Consequently, his office also must pay any unemployment costs out of its shrunken budget.
å…¸he message we need to get out there is [it is not the same as] back in 1992 with staff requirements. Weæ±*e still not going to be at the same financially as we were then. They were paid $6 an hour. Itç—´ only been a $5 increase from ?2 to now, which for what we do is not compensating well enough. To get back to the budget [Sheriff Rich Rensi] had in ?2, thereç—´ no way to do that. It costs more to live today. You can稚 go back. Itç—´ an officer safety issue. Itç—´ a public safety issue. Itç—´ everybodyç—´ safety issue.
But, he says, he hopes to move forward.
展eæ±*e looking for any way we can substantiate keeping the office running and do our jobs of serving the office, processing and investigating crime, Myers concluded. 展e値l see what happens.

 

[dmccarty]

I hate to hear about stuff like this. Really burns me up since its hard to nail someone on charges and even if you do the penalties are not severe enough.

Can you fence in with Tposts and mesh fence around your barns and house to let the dogs run free? Its pretty fast and easy to put up a fence like this though not what I would call pretty. And have camera's setup up to view the fence. The fence is to keep in the dogs. The cameras are to catch the people trying get over the fence and/or kill the dogs. Can you fence to move/funnel the intruders to the camera kill zone.

Check with a lawyer not only for law suits but also what a citizen can do with criminal law. In NC citizens can go to the courthouse and swear out a warrent for misdemeanor crimes. Can you or the wife do this in your state? Will this stir them up? It might but they have already crossed the line and I doubt it will get better. You just have to deal with it by the book. Its a shame your Sheriff is useless.

Maybe the VFW guys know your "neighbors" and have some suggestions on how to deal with them.

Good Luck!
Dan

 

[Thumper & Buttercup]

Zetorshaun,

Have your wife call these guys, tell her to ask for Chad and explain the situation, they have what you need.

Video Surveillance Cameras & CCTV Video Security Camera Systems

Also, this situation really ticked me off, I e-mailed your Governor, Newspaper, TV station and told them they really need to help get something done here.

 

[capi75rs]

Hope you don't mind but I also put it on the Patriot Guard blog as well. This is BS in a BIG way.

 

[Thumper & Buttercup]

ZetorShaun,

Please PM me your address, I have newspaper people who need a address to work with who want to help.

 

[jimmyj]

I love the support everyone is giving. It is encouraging to see!

 

[ZetorShaun]

I really appreciate it and PM'd Thumper. It is funny that you mentioned the Attorney General. I did contact the office using their automated email system regarding one of the past violations. I got back something along the lines that "the Attorney General provides legal services to government entities and state agencies" and was directed to contact the county prosecutor. I just had to laugh, if there is anyone more worthless than the Sheriff, it is the county prosecutor. The likely subject's mother assured me that she is "good friends" with the prosecutor while they were being buttheads to me.

Anyway, insurance is enroute, the power company has set an appointment for the street lamp style light, my tire company is enroute to fix the tires, the State Patrol has come by but do not deal with matters on "private property" although they were extremely nice and supportive according to my wife, ADT is enroute to install the system, the locksmiths are enroute to install the new locks with kick plates and the second German Shepherd is enroute (I like the idea about the woven wire contained "patrol areas" around the barn). Just waiting on the garage door estimate for my one barn, it will become my secure storage facility for high dollar items, it is big and strong, all steel I-beams and all. Looking at the CCTV system Thumper listed.

My boss said I could go on leave now but my wife has bounced back and I really want to wait and see. My brother-in-law and some pals have stopped by to help.

I am most interested in prevention in the future and being able to document it if something does happen again.

 

[Redbug]

Hi Shawn,

You mentioned you have and are getting another shepherd. I am also a shepherd person. I have had several other breeds of dogs in the past, but after having a shepherd, I am hooked on the breed. Really different than other dogs. Here's a pic of my "Palmetto Pal". Smartest dog I have ever had. He goes everywhere I go, (except work and the grocery store), and is truly my pal. These guys are great family and protective dogs.

You are a shepherd guy, too?