Compact telehandler

[Xfaxman]

Pushed over a tall dead tree with the Monster Grapple.

Note the white rock in with the red sandrock.

Knocking dirt and rock off of the root ball. :thumbsup:

Found the balance point and took it to the burn pile.

 

[Snowback]

Very impressive machine there! :thumbsup:

 

[mike69440]

A lot of guys aren't familiar with these machines, so thought I would revive this three year old thread, since it is the only thread that I found searching for Versahandler in this forum.

The Bobcat V518 and smaller V417 Compact Telehandlers are designed for ground engaging attachments. They will definitley out dig a skid steer. They also can extricate themselves from any stuck situation, if the motor is still running.

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Notice how dry the silt is on top, but under the top crust it is like pudding. I had driven across it with our UTV, no problem.
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In September 2009 I bought a used V518, to clean out our 30 year old 2 acre pond. The silt was 5' deep, the plan was to dump the silt on the backside of the dam.

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The silt pile.

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The V417 has a standard SSQA, the V518 attachment carrier is different, but an adapter is available for skid steer attachments. Both have aux hydraulics on the boom.

I compared the internet info on the V417 & V518 vs. the new V519, and for ground engagement stuff, I think the older units are better suited than the V519.
No doubt the V519 is a good off road Telehandler, but the older units have more of a tractor quality.

 

[Xfaxman]

The V519 is ten inches wider than my V417, but I like the R1 tread on the larger tires.

Some Bobcat V519 pictures: http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/...1162-v519-compact-telehandler.html?highlight=

 

[mogwild]

The V519 is ten inches wider than my V417, but I like the R1 tread on the larger tires.

Some Bobcat V519 pictures: http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/...1162-v519-compact-telehandler.html?highlight=

Intersting how the brake pedal works, quite novel in fact, is this how your V417 works?

The brake pedal controls travel speed at any rpm. Using the first half of the stroke on the brake pedal allows you to maintain full engine rpm while hydrostatically slowing down the machine. This is beneficial if you want to reduce travel speed, but still need to maintain full hydraulic flow while using an attachment. Pressing the pedal further applies the machine brakes. Due to the hydrostatic transmission, the VersaHANDLER telescopic tool carrier will decelerate and stop as soon as you remove pressure from the accelerator pedal.

So for mowing, you mash the accelerator pedal, then control ground speed via the top half of the brake pedal?

 

[Xfaxman]

No the V417 is a little different. The brake pedal will slow ground speed, but the pedal travel range is a lot less than half way, before the brakes are applied. It is real handy for hooking up attachments, or if you need to move very slow. For safety, the brakes are applied if the engine is idling or travel lever is in neutral.

There is a Creep Mode button on the dash and up and down arrows to control ground speed, that I used when mowing.

 

[mogwild]

Ah, I see that option in the new series as well:



I had to look at the Europe site to see more info, the North American site is lacking in info. They have a lot more selection in Europe as well as more options. These are a true AG machine over there! Just need to see some more snow removal video's.

 

[Xfaxman]

Ah, I see that option in the new series as well:

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Yep, it even has the same snail icon:

Speed Management System sounds better than Creep Mode.

 

[mogwild]

I found one, and it's affordable too!

 

[Xfaxman]

That is amazing, even switches between 2 wheel steer and 4 wheel steer. :thumbsup:

 

[MossRoad]

I found one, and it's affordable too!

DANG! What a fun playroom! :thumbsup:

 

[Xfaxman]

A project from last summer, removing the stump that I used for the Max lift test: http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/bobcat-construction-equipment/275747-v417-max-lift.html

It is disintegrating after testing the hydraulic system again for max lift. Still went to overflow on the scale.

Popped it out with the stump bucket

You can see the size of the root ball in the 51 inch grapple opening.

 

[Xfaxman]

Here is the rest of the story on the burn pile started in post #81 here in this thread: http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/...pact-telehandler-post4645591.html#post4645591

 

[Xfaxman]

Here is the link for the rest of the story in the previous post: http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/...ter-29-dead-tree-post4809725.html#post4809725

 

[Xfaxman]

This oak tree put leaves on this spring, but fell over last month.

Reached in from the pasture, grappled it at the balance point, raised the boom, but the rear end came off of the ground.

Drove around into the woods and noticed it still had one big root in the ground. So I put the grapple under the trunk and pulled it up.

Extended the boom and dropped it in the pasture.

Used crab steering to drag it out where I could find the balance point and pick it up.

Took it to the burn pile. Got the camera lens dirty on the way.

I wondered if it was heavy enough to raise the rear so I slowly extended the boom all the way out, it was!!

 

[mike69440]

I respect a machine that is strong enough to hurt itself and hurt you too if you are careless and too bold.

 

[Xfaxman]

Yep, I do too. I have stressed this machine to the max, many times and it always comes through. I have put over 900 hours on it so am very familiar with it's capabilities.

The fact that the front axle is bolted solid to the frame and can not pivot like a tractor is why I even tried to see if it would tip. I stood outside of the cab and reached in with my right hand on the joystick, slowly extending the boom until it hit the end of it's travel and the rear end started up.

 

[Xfaxman]

I scanned the Rated Load Capacity Chart (that is in the V417 cab) into my computer so I could post it here:

As you can see the boom extension and height determine how much weight it will carry and keep the rear wheels on the ground. :thumbsup:

I haven't seen a Tipping Load published for the V417, like they do for the skid steers.

Here is more info on the tipping weight: http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/...iest-tree-i-have-post4821426.html#post4821426

 

[Xfaxman]

Added Boom Angle to the chart, since the angle indicator is visible from the seat.

Chained the crane scale to the convenient stump and zeroed it:

With the boom extended all the way out and up at 20 degrees, it took 2,541 pounds added to the 1,168 pound grapple, to raise the rear wheels up.

With the boom at 40 degrees, it took a total of 4,728 pounds to raise the rear wheels up.

With the boom at 50 degrees, it took a total of 5,994 pounds to raise the rear wheels up.

Note the rear end is airborne. :thumbsup:

With the boom at 65 degrees which is max, I curled the grapple to pull up on the chain, the scale went over 5,000 pounds, showed Over Flow, the rear wheels stayed on the ground and just before I snapped the picture of the scale readout the chain broke.

 

[tman1020]

Ok now u r just showing off.
I'm jealous