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   / Carbon Dioxide #81  
I don’t care about the CO2. I am skeptical of the impact to begin with but even if it is bad there is zero chance the rest of the world is going to do anything about it. The US will cripple itself with all the green regulations while the rest of the world continues to pollute. It doesn’t do much good to stop peeing in the pool when the people on the other side continue to do so and we are all in the same pool.

if you search hard enough you can find some study that says virtually anything humans do is bad for the environment. Personally I just don’t buy it nor do I care. i am not going to go dump my used motor oil in the creek and I think it is wise to do things within reason to be good stewards of the earth but I am all for our way of life and if it ultimately ends up killing us off so be it.
 
   / Carbon Dioxide #82  
The latest atmospheric measurements of CO2 come in at 412 parts per million. This is the highest in more than several lifetimes, an increase of 47% since the start of the industrial revolution and 11% since the year 2000!

Carbon Dioxide functions like a Heat Blanket in the atmosphere, trapping sunlight energy and increasing the surface temperature of the Earth. This vast increase in the last twenty-four years is a direct result of increased combustion of fossil fuels....Oil and Coal.

Please tell me you hate this news, please tell me you don't believe in science but please listen. The audience of this forum is largely rural. Your interests should be aligned with a healthy environment and sustained ability of YOUR climate to support life as you wish it to be. The evidences of drought, elevated temperatures in many parts of the country, resulting fires and diminishing Glacial coverage at high elevations, more frequent and more intense Hurricanes striking the SE coast are not a hoax. All I, or anyone aware of the facts asks, is to please quit rebelling against improvements in how we conduct our operations. Look forward to vastly improved environmental tools and equipment and take pride, in taking part.
Take a moment and read tis information. His qualifications are at the top.

Boy is this going to bum out Greta and Gore
Ian Rutherford Plimer is an Australian geologist, professor emeritus of earth sciences at the University of Melbourne, professor of mining geology at the University of Adelaide, and the director of multiple mineral exploration and mining companies.
He has published 130 scientific papers, six books and edited the Encyclopedia of Geology.
Born 12 February 1946
Residence Australia
Nationality Australian
Fields Earth Science , Geology, Mining Engineering
Institutions University of New England ,University of Newcastle,University of Melbourne,University of Adelaide
Alma mater
University of New South Wales ,Macquarie University
Thesis
The pipe deposits of tungsten-molybdenum-bismuth in eastern Australia (1976)
Notable awards Eureka Prize (1995, 2002),Centenary Medal (2003), Clarke Medal
(2004)
Source. Wikipedia

Where Does the Carbon Dioxide Really Come From?
Professor Ian Plimer could not have said it better!
If you've read his book you will agree; this is a good summary.


PLIMER: "Okay, here's the bombshell. The volcanic eruption in Iceland. Since its first spewing of volcanic ash has, in just FOUR DAYS, NEGATED EVERY SINGLE EFFORT you have made in the past five years to control CO2 emissions on our planet - all of you.
Of course, you know about this evil carbon dioxide that we are trying to suppress - its that vital chemical compound that every plant requires to live and grow and to synthesize into oxygen for us humans and all animal life.
I know....it's very disheartening to realize that all of the carbon emission savings you have accomplished while suffering the inconvenience and expense of driving Prius hybrids, buying fabric grocery bags, sitting up till midnight to finish your kids "The Green Revolution" science project, throwing out all of your non-green cleaning supplies, using only two squares of toilet paper, putting a brick in your toilet tank reservoir, selling your SUV and speedboat, vacationing at home instead of abroad, nearly getting hit every day on your bicycle, replacing all of your 50 cent light bulbs with $10.00 light bulbs..... well, all of those things you have done have all gone down the tubes in just four days.
The volcanic ash emitted into the Earth's atmosphere in just four days - yes, FOUR DAYS - by that volcano in Iceland which has totally erased every single effort you have made to reduce the evil beast, carbon. And there are around 200 active volcanoes on the planet spewing out this crud at any one time - EVERY DAY.
I don't really want to rain on your parade too much, but I should mention that when the volcano Mt. Pinatubo erupted in the Philippines in 1991, it spewed out more greenhouse gases into the atmosphere than the entire human race had emitted in all its years on earth.
Yes, folks, Mt. Pinatubo was active for over one year - think about it.
Of course, I shouldn't spoil this 'touchy-feely tree-hugging' moment and mention the effect of solar and cosmic activity and the well-recognized 800-year global heating and cooling cycle, which keeps happening despite our completely insignificant efforts to affect climate change.
And I do wish I had a silver lining to this volcanic ash cloud, but the fact of the matter is that the bush fire season across the western USA and Australia this year alone will negate your efforts to reduce carbon in our world for the next two to three years. And it happens every year. Just remember that your government just tried to impose a whopping carbon tax on you, on the basis of the bogus 'human-caused' climate-change scenario.
Hey, isn't it interesting how they don't mention 'Global Warming' anymore, but just "Climate Change" - you know why?
It's because the planet has COOLED by 0.7 degrees in the past century and these global warming bull**** artists got caught with their pants down. And, just keep in mind that you might yet be stuck with an Emissions Trading Scheme - that whopping new tax - imposed on you that will achieve absolutely nothing except make you poorer.
It won't stop any volcanoes from erupting, that's for sure.
 
   / Carbon Dioxide #83  
The latest atmospheric measurements of CO2 come in at 412 parts per million. This is the highest in more than several lifetimes, an increase of 47% since the start of the industrial revolution and 11% since the year 2000!

Carbon Dioxide functions like a Heat Blanket in the atmosphere, trapping sunlight energy and increasing the surface temperature of the Earth. This vast increase in the last twenty-four years is a direct result of increased combustion of fossil fuels....Oil and Coal.

Please tell me you hate this news, please tell me you don't believe in science but please listen. The audience of this forum is largely rural. Your interests should be aligned with a healthy environment and sustained ability of YOUR climate to support life as you wish it to be. The evidences of drought, elevated temperatures in many parts of the country, resulting fires and diminishing Glacial coverage at high elevations, more frequent and more intense Hurricanes striking the SE coast are not a hoax. All I, or anyone aware of the facts asks, is to please quit rebelling against improvements in how we conduct our operations. Look forward to vastly improved environmental tools and equipment and take pride, in taking
 
   / Carbon Dioxide #84  
Maybe we should increase the CO2. Greenhouses often have CO2 levels of 750+ ppm because the plants grow better. Quit being mean to plants. Our leafy brethren can use the additional CO2.
 
   / Carbon Dioxide #85  
Maybe we should increase the CO2. Greenhouses often have CO2 levels of 750+ ppm because the plants grow better. Quit being mean to plants. Our leafy brethren can use the additional CO2.
Until all the plants cook. Would we then be cooked as well?? :mad:
 
   / Carbon Dioxide #86  
The latest atmospheric measurements of CO2 come in at 412 parts per million. This is the highest in more than several lifetimes, an increase of 47% since the start of the industrial revolution and 11% since the year 2000!

Carbon Dioxide functions like a Heat Blanket in the atmosphere, trapping sunlight energy and increasing the surface temperature of the Earth. This vast increase in the last twenty-four years is a direct result of increased combustion of fossil fuels....Oil and Coal.

Please tell me you hate this news, please tell me you don't believe in science but please listen. The audience of this forum is largely rural. Your interests should be aligned with a healthy environment and sustained ability of YOUR climate to support life as you wish it to be. The evidences of drought, elevated temperatures in many parts of the country, resulting fires and diminishing Glacial coverage at high elevations, more frequent and more intense Hurricanes striking the SE coast are not a hoax. All I, or anyone aware of the facts asks, is to please quit rebelling against improvements in how we conduct our operations. Look forward to vastly improved environmental tools and equipment and take pride, in taking part.
This is a good thing CO2 is not a poisonous gas it is the building block of all life. Historically we have had up to 2000 ppm. During these higher CO2 levels plant and animal life thrive. Greenhouse routinely add CO2 to their grow rooms to increase the health and growth of plants. Remember the life cycle and forgot the fear tactics from the global corporations who are the actual polluter spraying chemicals and heavy metals into the atmosphere. Eugenicist Bill Gates has diabolical plans for the human population A Bill Gates Venture Aims To Spray Dust Into The Atmosphere To Block The Sun. What Could Go Wrong?
 
   / Carbon Dioxide #87  
Most definitely not Politics. Confusing basic science with politics is like confusing gravity with pizza. My sole purpose in this post was to present facts and stimulate thinking regarding selection and operation of various internal combustion tools. Nothing can or will change overnight. Consider the possibility of improvement, wherever possible, for you.
Not to disagree with your facts, I will readily accept them. However, your focus on the activities of rural life to be the big contributir I take major issues with— take some air samples of a truly rural area (not a frw mikes from an industrialized area) and sample of a major metropolitan area (New York or LA for example). The results will be clear! Most of us only need to look at our sky lines to know this truth. As for current battery production and battery charging facilities—well tyey are at least as big a contributor as your selected audience on this forum, likely larger!
 
   / Carbon Dioxide #88  
The latest atmospheric measurements of CO2 come in at 412 parts per million. This is the highest in more than several lifetimes, an increase of 47% since the start of the industrial revolution and 11% since the year 2000!

Carbon Dioxide functions like a Heat Blanket in the atmosphere, trapping sunlight energy and increasing the surface temperature of the Earth. This vast increase in the last twenty-four years is a direct result of increased combustion of fossil fuels....Oil and Coal.

Please tell me you hate this news, please tell me you don't believe in science but please listen. The audience of this forum is largely rural. Your interests should be aligned with a healthy environment and sustained ability of YOUR climate to support life as you wish it to be. The evidences of drought, elevated temperatures in many parts of the country, resulting fires and diminishing Glacial coverage at high elevations, more frequent and more intense Hurricanes striking the SE coast are not a hoax. All I, or anyone aware of the facts asks, is to please quit rebelling against improvements in how we conduct our operations. Look forward to vastly improved environmental tools and equipment and take pride, in taking part.
Useful reading on what we know and don’t know. The notion that people are rebelling is nonsense.

 
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   / Carbon Dioxide #89  
We wouldn't exist without climate change. The world would still be full of dinosaurs. Couldn't change it then either.
 
   / Carbon Dioxide #90  
The latest atmospheric measurements of CO2 come in at 412 parts per million. This is the highest in more than several lifetimes, an increase of 47% since the start of the industrial revolution and 11% since the year 2000!

Carbon Dioxide functions like a Heat Blanket in the atmosphere, trapping sunlight energy and increasing the surface temperature of the Earth. This vast increase in the last twenty-four years is a direct result of increased combustion of fossil fuels....Oil and Coal.

Please tell me you hate this news, please tell me you don't believe in science but please listen. The audience of this forum is largely rural. Your interests should be aligned with a healthy environment and sustained ability of YOUR climate to support life as you wish it to be. The evidences of drought, elevated temperatures in many parts of the country, resulting fires and diminishing Glacial coverage at high elevations, more frequent and more intense Hurricanes striking the SE coast are not a hoax. All I, or anyone aware of the facts asks, is to please quit rebelling against improvements in how we conduct our operations. Look forward to vastly improved environmental tools and equipment and take pride, in taking part.
I do not come to a Tractor website to hear proselytizing regarding the climate religion. My Kubota runs well on carbon fuels, and China pumps out twice the CO2 as the US. Our emissions are declining as theirs skyrocket. China poured 140% of the cement the US did in the entire 20th Century in just 3 years. The earth was once 1 connected continent; at other times it was entirely ice. 12,000 years ago the Great Lakes were glaciers, and began receding well before organic fuels like coal, oil and natural gas were used by man. I like more power in my tractors and vehicles, but not more control over my life from power-hungry governments.
 
   / Carbon Dioxide #91  
These are all great points. Every time I see a posting about climate change or global warming, I think "what are the choices?", not "you ought to change this or that."

I'm concerned about the total environmental footprint of the batteries we use on small items (weed wackers, etc) and potentially on a 20-30 HP small tractor one day. The total picture has to be considered.

I liked the old Nova versus the new Nova comparison. Now, what are the other countries in the world doing about their tractors and weed wackers?
 
   / Carbon Dioxide #92  
The latest atmospheric measurements of CO2 come in at 412 parts per million. This is the highest in more than several lifetimes, an increase of 47% since the start of the industrial revolution and 11% since the year 2000!

Carbon Dioxide functions like a Heat Blanket in the atmosphere, trapping sunlight energy and increasing the surface temperature of the Earth. This vast increase in the last twenty-four years is a direct result of increased combustion of fossil fuels....Oil and Coal.

Please tell me you hate this news, please tell me you don't believe in science but please listen. The audience of this forum is largely rural. Your interests should be aligned with a healthy environment and sustained ability of YOUR climate to support life as you wish it to be. The evidences of drought, elevated temperatures in many parts of the country, resulting fires and diminishing Glacial coverage at high elevations, more frequent and more intense Hurricanes striking the SE coast are not a hoax. All I, or anyone aware of the facts asks, is to please quit rebelling against improvements in how we conduct our operations. Look forward to vastly improved environmental tools and equipment and take pride, in taking part.
There is no way to know that. No one was testing parts per million of CO2 before the industrial revolution. And no, they can't tell from ice cores or tree cores. We're still in the warming phase coming out of the last ice age with still a way to go. In any case it's all good. More CO2 is good for plants. More rain is good. Milder winters is good.
 
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   / Carbon Dioxide #93  
Your facts are not correct
The amount of CO2 in the atmosphere is going down not up
There are many studies out there that state this
There is less CO2 in the atmosphere than there was 100 years ago
Your so called climate change is nothing more than weather
In the 1970s it was going to be a mini ice age which did not happen
But you can believe what you want and state what facts( or lack of facts) you want
 
   / Carbon Dioxide #94  
over population is the number 1 problem facing earth. (and all associated modernization to support that)

if you’re worried about it, stop using any modern invention.

watch primitive technology on youtube.

we humans will exterminate ourselves and the sun will eat the earth in 4 billion years anyway
 
   / Carbon Dioxide #95  
Where I live (I dare say), the growing season is now longer by about 10 days in the Toronto area.
I do believe mankind pollutes too much, however I do like the longer summer and growing season.
So it is actually a plus here(selfish), but our government is definitely on board with reduction.
 
   / Carbon Dioxide #96  
Until you write this in Chinese you're barking up the wrong tree. The US has some of the most restrictive emissions laws in the world along with some of the cleanest air and water. You're solar panels, windmills, and batteries are great but the raw material mining and manufacturing process to make these "green" systems creates more pollution than they save. I think this post is timed to the medias new push to pivot from the race war they are starting to a "climate disaster" with the end goal of destroying the middle class and putting us all under the control of global elites. Good luck with that.
 
   / Carbon Dioxide #97  
When everyone preaching this crap to me sells their jets and yachts, I might listen. Bill Gates is wanting to tinker with the atmosphere to reflect sunlight, what could possibly go wrong? My issue with the science is that humans are terrible at making predictions, especially around complex systems like the atmosphere, understanding biology, and the economic machinery. You need to read some of Nassim Taleb's papers. The sample size being used is very tiny in comparison of the age of the earth. The sample size is great based on human terms but not billions of years. NASA's chart I pulled up covers 800,000 years, which is 0.02% of Earth's history.

Batteries still suck, I've been following rechargeable technology for 40 years new. They are better but batteries have a lot of downsides. For example, over this past winter in very mild North Alabama, my Hitachi batteries would barely power my reciprocating saw. I would love to have battery powered electrical everything, much less maintenance no doubt, but I also want a flying car.

I live on 20 acres, building my second ICF house which is extremely energy efficient. I drive a Prius as my daily driver, I have a 96 diesel F350 because none of my other vehicles will tow or haul anything. I also have several UTV's and tractors. I would love to have all battery equipment if they worked in all weather and were affordable.

If you want to save the earth, offer a comparable or better alternative, don't preach.
 
   / Carbon Dioxide #98  
Nothing wrong with doing your part to protect the environment. Certainly nothing wrong with science. But science, contrary to that espoused by some, is never settled. I was alive in the 70’s when global cooling was the dominant issue of the time. 50 years later, it’s warming. Dietary guidelines changed a lot, as well. Many of the things we were cautioned against are now called beneficial. Changing the body we live in only affects the individual and can often be reversed within the lifetime of the individual. Our environment is not static and attempting to make it static could very well cause the very problem we are trying to prevent. The ramifications of being wrong will certainly not be corrected in a single lifetime, or perhaps in many. In 50 years, the science will almost certainly change as we learn more. But, allowing science to guide terraforming is folly. We have a very poor record of predicting the future, whether it be 5 minutes from now or 50 years. I went to bed on Sept 10th, 2001 with no clue as to what was going to happen the next day. I suspect it was the same for everyone else. Do your part to make the world a better place. I will join you in that.

Just my honest opinion. Feel free to differ.
 
   / Carbon Dioxide #99  
Most definitely not Politics. Confusing basic science with politics is like confusing gravity with pizza. My sole purpose in this post was to present facts and stimulate thinking regarding selection and operation of various internal combustion tools. Nothing can or will change overnight. Consider the possibility of improvement, wherever possible, for you.
Never trust BS statistics from those with agendas.
 
   / Carbon Dioxide #100  
Until you write this in Chinese you're barking up the wrong tree. The US has some of the most restrictive emissions laws in the world along with some of the cleanest air and water. You're solar panels, windmills, and batteries are great but the raw material mining and manufacturing process to make these "green" systems creates more pollution than they save. I think this post is timed to the medias new push to pivot from the race war they are starting to a "climate disaster" with the end goal of destroying the middle class and putting us all under the control of global elites. Good luck with that.
OK, so do nothing if they don't? I'd bet the Chinese will be working on this shorty, unless they are totally demented. We need to be working on this problem, weather there is 100% world wide agreement or not.
 
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